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College Bball Thread

By BlueDevil, in Indiana Men's Basketball

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HoosierFan1994    4,722

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14 hours ago, Str8Hoosiers said:

KenPom ratings are still weighted in Preseason info until Mid-January... that is why Purdue is still up there as high as they are.

 

Keep losing and they will fall!!!! :)

Man they are terrible. They could very well miss the tournament, even with one of the best players in program history. I said it on here earlier...the future looks awful in West Lafayette. I'm not kidding, they could be a bottom 3 team next year in the Big Ten. I'm fine with Purdue keeping Painter. Archie Miller ruined him. 

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HoosierFan1994    4,722

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7 hours ago, RealIU said:


Ruined him, but Archie has never beat him head to Head!! Purdue is always a problem on the schedule because of the rivalry. Painter is a smart coach who understands the game, Purdue is Just Purdue and will never attract top recruits, however Archie should get his fair amount of wins in the future because he is recruiting Indiana kids and they understand how important it is to win that Purdue game. Bottom line Purdue is still a big concern on the schedule.


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I get it, but Rob Phinisee, Damezi Anderson, and Armaan Franklin were the typical kids who went to Purdue. Archie is now getting those kids. Phinisee would be Purdue's second best player and Damezi would see more minutes. 

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HoosierFan1994    4,722

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5 minutes ago, yogisballin said:

Wow another week has gone by and Michigan not in the top 2! How is this even possible? Minus a near hiccup at home with students gone vs W Mich. They have kicked @$$ and took names this year. How are they not #1. #2 at worst?


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I am with you. How is Gonzaga ahead of UNC and Marquette ahead of IU? Also Purdue is receiving votes?!?!?!?!

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Bailey7878    2,506

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I am with you. How is Gonzaga ahead of UNC and Marquette ahead of IU? Also Purdue is receiving votes?!?!?!?!
How in the world are maryland and iowa ranked above us in the coaches poll? Neither one has done anything but iowa is laughable.

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Hardwood83    4,752

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14 hours ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Man they are terrible. They could very well miss the tournament, even with one of the best players in program history. I said it on here earlier...the future looks awful in West Lafayette. I'm not kidding, they could be a bottom 3 team next year in the Big Ten. I'm fine with Purdue keeping Painter. Archie Miller ruined him. 

Not that it's a profound insight, but I've said before- there are a lot of good coaches. There are a lot of good recruiters, but there aren't many that are both. Those guys are the house-hold names. Painter is clearly a capable X's & O's guy, but so inconsistent with the talent. It seems he's on about a 4 yr cycle. Gets a good crop, develops them for a couple years- peaks (B1G championship, Sweet 16 caliber team) They leave and the cupboard  is bare. Start over. 

He may break through sometime, but as you said above, it isn't gonna be anytime soon. Once Edwards leaves it looks pretty grim. They'll have a lot of try-hards and some solid contributors (I think Newman might be good), but nothing approaching top level talent. 

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KingPG21    6,583

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18 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said:

How in the world are maryland and iowa ranked above us in the coaches poll? Neither one has done anything but iowa is laughable.

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The coaches poll is an absolute joke, pretty good example of why it shouldn't be a thing. Maryland's best win is...... Penn State? I guess they played Virginia close? I guess Hofstra and Delaware aren't complete garbage. What exactly have they done

 

Iowa has at least beaten some decent teams. Though Oregon was vastly overrated to start the year

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HoosierFan1994    4,722

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24 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Not that it's a profound insight, but I've said before- there are a lot of good coaches. There are a lot of good recruiters, but there aren't many that are both. Those guys are the house-hold names. Painter is clearly a capable X's & O's guy, but so inconsistent with the talent. It seems he's on about a 4 yr cycle. Gets a good crop, develops them for a couple years- peaks (B1G championship, Sweet 16 caliber team) They leave and the cupboard  is bare. Start over. 

He may break through sometime, but as you said above, it isn't gonna be anytime soon. Once Edwards leaves it looks pretty grim. They'll have a lot of try-hards and some solid contributors (I think Newman might be good), but nothing approaching top level talent. 

I think Brandon Newman will be very good, but not right away. Usually he has some talent but they look aren't going to be very good next season. 

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HoosierFan1994    4,722

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20 minutes ago, KingPG21 said:

The coaches poll is an absolute joke, pretty good example of why it shouldn't be a thing. Maryland's best win is...... Penn State? I guess they played Virginia close? I guess Hofstra and Delaware aren't complete garbage. What exactly have they done

 

Iowa has at least beaten some decent teams. Though Oregon was vastly overrated to start the year

I also don't buy Ohio State just yet..The lost to an unranked Syracuse team (who, like Oregon, is overrated.) To me, the top of the Big Ten is Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, and IU. 

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Alford Bailey    12,356

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2 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

Not that it's a profound insight, but I've said before- there are a lot of good coaches. There are a lot of good recruiters, but there aren't many that are both. Those guys are the house-hold names. Painter is clearly a capable X's & O's guy, but so inconsistent with the talent. It seems he's on about a 4 yr cycle. Gets a good crop, develops them for a couple years- peaks (B1G championship, Sweet 16 caliber team) They leave and the cupboard  is bare. Start over. 

He may break through sometime, but as you said above, it isn't gonna be anytime soon. Once Edwards leaves it looks pretty grim. They'll have a lot of try-hards and some solid contributors (I think Newman might be good), but nothing approaching top level talent. 

And a balding 40 year old

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