moyemayhem Posted June 26 Posted June 26 14 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Why weren't they going to go deep in the playoffs with Donovan Mitchell? Admittedly, the East likely to kinda suck next season, but Cleveland is the #1 favorite to win the East next year with Mitchell as their alpha. In Mitchell's 5 seasons in Utah, the Jazz won a total of 2 playoff series and simply weren't going deep into the postseason. With that said, I think the Jazz would have kept him if he was happy there. Quote
Demo Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Got to post every NBA draft season because it will never not be hysterical. thebigweave, moyemayhem and Stuhoo 2 1 Quote
Demo Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Ok, someone please clarify, is it Hansen Yang or Yang Hansen? Either is an objectively awesome name. Quote
Stuhoo Posted June 26 Posted June 26 4 minutes ago, Demo said: Ok, someone please clarify, is it Hansen Yang or Yang Hansen? Either is an objectively awesome name. I'm going with Yas Hangen Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Me when my dad asked me if Gallo got drafted last night. Stuhoo, HoosierHoopster, WayneFleekHoosier and 1 other 2 2 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted June 27 Posted June 27 11 hours ago, Home Jersey said: Sure… and still deemed talented enough to take at #5 overall without the drafting team even getting to work him out first lol. He’s got a lot of upside if he’s 6’7.5 or 6’9 in shoes or whatever. He has a 7’ wingspan. Him and Clayton give Utah fans plenty to be excited about. And perhaps going somewhere less flashy is exactly what Bailey needs to lock in on his development and tune out negative influences in his camp. Could just as easily see it working out as going bust. Draft position alone guarantees nothing. In terms of going 5th, I wouldn't say seeing it as likely working out as going bust is an endorsement. #5 guys shouldn't be 50% bust. The thought was that Utah gave him a guarantee that if he got to 5 that they insured him they would select him. His advisers seemed to want to go with that assurance as opposed to risk him going two, three or four. Quote
Home Jersey Posted June 27 Posted June 27 32 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said: Draft position alone guarantees nothing. In terms of going 5th, I wouldn't say seeing it as likely working out as going bust is an endorsement. #5 guys shouldn't be 50% bust. The thought was that Utah gave him a guarantee that if he got to 5 that they insured him they would select him. His advisers seemed to want to go with that assurance as opposed to risk him going two, three or four. Like you said, draft position guarantees nothing so I don’t buy the assertion that #5 guys “shouldn’t” be 50% bust without some data to back up the claim. Way more guys “bust” than not in the NBA so calling it 50/50 if he pans out to be the star player he is projected to be, I’d say is a somewhat favorable view. Even if he does “bust” he may carve out a decent role / career in the league IMO. He’s not a perfect player at all but he’s got a lot of talent and potential to be a team’s “alpha” … IMO that is why Ainge chose to draft him despite reportedly being told they were not a preferred destination. You say “gave him a guarantee” - I wonder if Ace’s camp viewed that as a promise or a threat, lol. In any case based on his interviews it sounds like he’s handling it professionally (as he should) and will be able to focus on basketball in an environment that’s pretty conducive to his development in a star role. Again, he was always a high risk/high reward prospect and Utah needs a young centerpiece to be the guy. Therefore I see no reason to believe there are “VERY” long odds of it working out in Utah specifically. Seems like it was the obvious choice? And potentially great value at #5 moyemayhem 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted June 27 Posted June 27 1 hour ago, Home Jersey said: Like you said, draft position guarantees nothing so I don’t buy the assertion that #5 guys “shouldn’t” be 50% bust without some data to back up the claim. Way more guys “bust” than not in the NBA so calling it 50/50 if he pans out to be the star player he is projected to be, I’d say is a somewhat favorable view. Even if he does “bust” he may carve out a decent role / career in the league IMO. He’s not a perfect player at all but he’s got a lot of talent and potential to be a team’s “alpha” … IMO that is why Ainge chose to draft him despite reportedly being told they were not a preferred destination. You say “gave him a guarantee” - I wonder if Ace’s camp viewed that as a promise or a threat, lol. In any case based on his interviews it sounds like he’s handling it professionally (as he should) and will be able to focus on basketball in an environment that’s pretty conducive to his development in a star role. Again, he was always a high risk/high reward prospect and Utah needs a young centerpiece to be the guy. Therefore I see no reason to believe there are “VERY” long odds of it working out in Utah specifically. Seems like it was the obvious choice? And potentially great value at #5 I googled ‘NBA #5 selections’ and suggest you do the same. Not many players I would call busts. Depends on your definition. There is a difference being between being not worthy of the fifth pick and being a ‘bust’. Were Ricky Rubio and Jeff Green busts because they were picked fifth? I say they were not busts. HoosierHoopster and Home Jersey 2 Quote
Stuhoo Posted June 27 Posted June 27 Yang Hansen > Ace Bailey as a high ceiling prospect. And it's not as much because Hansen dominated some piddly Chinese league at a young age; it's because of his style of play and especially because of what he did at Portland's pre-draft workouts against draftable guys. 7'1" with handles, an NBA ready body, quickness, and savant-level court vision? Right here is your draft day mega-steal: Start this video of Hansen at the World U-19 tournament at the 1:30 mark. You'll see what I mean: moyemayhem 1 Quote
Demo Posted June 27 Posted June 27 https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45585873/2026-nba-mock-draft-four-players-no-1-pick-options-peterson-dybantsa-boozer-ament ESPN’s 1st ‘26 mock. What a ridiculously good class. Notable names: 19. Braylon Mullins 30. Braden Smith 49. Mackenzie Mgbako 55. Flory Bidunga Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Brooks Barnhizer getting drafted didn't have that on my bingo board. Stuhoo 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted June 28 Posted June 28 1 hour ago, OliviaPope40 said: Brooks Barnhizer getting drafted didn't have that on my bingo board. He fits in with OKC. Grabs, holds, hacks on defense. Perfect match. thebigweave, OliviaPope40 and MemphisHoosier 3 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted June 28 Posted June 28 20 hours ago, Demo said: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45585873/2026-nba-mock-draft-four-players-no-1-pick-options-peterson-dybantsa-boozer-ament ESPN’s 1st ‘26 mock. What a ridiculously good class. Notable names: 19. Braylon Mullins 30. Braden Smith 49. Mackenzie Mgbako 55. Flory Bidunga Liam McNeely didn’t go until the end of the first round. I would be shocked if Mullins is top 20 after his freshman year. Demo 1 Quote
HoosierHoopster Posted June 28 Posted June 28 On 6/26/2025 at 11:43 AM, Demo said: Got to post every NBA draft season because it will never not be hysterical. Dear God talk about clueless lol Quote
Demo Posted July 1 Posted July 1 Myles to the Bucks for 4/107 with a year 4 player option and a full trade kicker. Congrats to Myles on cashing in, but in no universe should the Pacers have done that. Daniel Gafford, who’s not as good as Turner but a legit dude who’s younger signed for 3/54. Nic Claxton, baby. Make it happen, Pritch. BtownStrength, RaceToTheTop and HoosierHoopster 3 Quote
Hovadipo Posted July 1 Author Posted July 1 Looooove Myles, but no shot we should've done ~27/year. Probably not even if Tyrese was healthy next season. I can't imagine the meltdown next year after paying him 20+ then watching him flounder about on offense without Tyrese setting up all of his looks that got him that deal. Pagoda, OldBuddy67, Demo and 2 others 5 Quote
Demo Posted July 1 Posted July 1 4 minutes ago, Hovadipo said: Looooove Myles, but no shot we should've done ~27/year. Probably not even if Tyrese was healthy next season. I can't imagine the meltdown next year after paying him 20+ then watching him flounder about on offense without Tyrese setting up all of his looks that got him that deal. Surely to God they don’t get in on Ayton, right? Quote
Stuhoo Posted July 1 Posted July 1 Not exactly an NBA stat line, but because I'm an admitted hater, can someone tell me if a pro basketball player that is averaging: 18.2 ppg on 39% fg and 29.5% 3 pt, with 5.9 turnovers per game Would somehow be seen as a hyper-effective superstar? Hovadipo 1 Quote
Hovadipo Posted July 1 Author Posted July 1 17 minutes ago, Demo said: Surely to God they don’t get in on Ayton, right? Only if they want to see me self-harm. The only bright side of that hypo would be that if anyone could get Ayton to play to his potential it'd be Rick. Pagoda 1 Quote
Hovadipo Posted July 1 Author Posted July 1 1 minute ago, Stuhoo said: Not exactly an NBA stat line, but because I'm an admitted hater, can someone tell me if a pro basketball player that is averaging: 18.2 ppg on 39% fg and 29.5% 3 pt, with 5.9 turnovers per game Would somehow be seen as a hyper-effective superstar? This is evil. thebigweave and Stuhoo 1 1 Quote
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