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[CampHoosier 3,697]

Transfers are a reality. Call it "Creaning" or whatever, but every school does it. Of course we aren't getting rid of Perea, he produces. Hartman has not. Priller isn't a BIG caliber type player. They're expendable and will probably be encouraged to seek other places to play. It's not ideal, but it's how it is. If anyone would rather have Priller and Hartman next season and tell Juwan, Shake, and OG to screw off, then don't be mad if we aren't any good. It's a two way street and everyone is trying to have it their own way. 

[Kepner 1,268]

Well yours was the post I decided to quote, so I apologize for that...? People are talking about guys transferring that won't be starters, like Priller who may or may not be fit for the B1G. Nobody knows for sure obviously. Not someone who will presumably be our starting center at the start of the season. I know you were just speculating but that seemed a little extreme. Not trying to hurt feelings.


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Didn't hurt my feelings. Im just saying at this point no one has a clue. Yes Perea is slated to be a starter. But think about it, is he slated to be the starter because he has played super hard in the past? Nope. He's slated to be the starter because he is one of the only options to play that position. This will be his third year and granted he hasn't been given much time in games to prove his worth, but that just means that in practices he hasn't gotten it done or in the game time he has had. I am a huge Perea fan and want him to succeed, but its comical to read people say that certain players are on the chopping block simply because we aren't familiar with that player yet

[Kepner 1,268]

Transfers are a reality. Call it "Creaning" or whatever, but every school does it. Of course we aren't getting rid of Perea, he produces. Hartman has not. Priller isn't a BIG caliber type player. They're expendable and will probably be encouraged to seek other places to play. It's not ideal, but it's how it is. If anyone would rather have Priller and Hartman next season and tell Juwan, Shake, and OG to screw off, then don't be mad if we aren't any good. It's a two way street and everyone is trying to have it their own way. 

Not trying to start an argument or anything but ,objectively, until now…what has Perea produced? Doing well in a dunk contest? Having awesome youtube videos? 

[Hovadipo 61,577]

Didn't hurt my feelings. Im just saying at this point no one has a clue. Yes Perea is slated to be a starter. But think about it, is he slated to be the starter because he has played super hard in the past? Nope. He's slated to be the starter because he is one of the only options to play that position. This will be his third year and granted he hasn't been given much time in games to prove his worth, but that just means that in practices he hasn't gotten it done or in the game time he has had. I am a huge Perea fan and want him to succeed, but its comical to read people say that certain players are on the chopping block simply because we aren't familiar with that player yet

I kind of agree on your last point. It really is unfair until we see them play, but just going off of what we know, some of the guys we picked up this summer are head scratchers. But that's been discussed here ad nauseum. Back to your point on Hanner, when you say he's starting because he's all we have there, well...it looks right now like he will be all we have there next year too unless Bryant surprises us. So he would have to do even if he really hasn't improved (God, I hope that isn't the case and I don't expect it to be).


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[CampHoosier 3,697]

Not trying to start an argument or anything but ,objectively, until now…what has Perea produced? Doing well in a dunk contest? Having awesome youtube videos? 

 

We have no bigs coming in. He's one of our biggest players and has game experience. Are you saying he's at all expendable over anyone on this team? I'm not even sure what your point is here. You know who we need and who is expendable. Right? Like...you can watch a game and know Hartman probably will never produce at IU. You can see why we need Perea. Surely..

[Kepner 1,268]

We have no bigs coming in. He's one of our biggest players and has game experience. Are you saying he's at all expendable over anyone on this team? I'm not even sure what your point is here. You know who we need and who is expendable. Right? Like...you can watch a game and know Hartman probably will never produce at IU. You can see why we need Perea. Surely..

I know all these things you've stated. I was more just putting that Perea idea out there cause it makes about as much sense as other conclusions made on here about players. I really hope Hanner comes out this year and plays as advertised. Hanner has been given the time to develop and adjust to the game, but now all of a sudden other players aren't being given the same. Im just saying that its gotten comical how people are already ready for certain players to transfer before we have seen them. I guess I'm just rooting for certain players to actually make an impact. I'd love to see Tim Priller stay with the team cause I think his combination of size and shooting is something we have never had and those stretch players are really useful. I think there are players , that if given the time necessary to develop, can add a lot to this squad. Of course you have to find space for guys like Morgan and Bryant. So it is definitely a complex

[Kepner 1,268]

I kind of agree on your last point. It really is unfair until we see them play, but just going off of what we know, some of the guys we picked up this summer are head scratchers. But that's been discussed here ad nauseum. Back to your point on Hanner, when you say he's starting because he's all we have there, well...it looks right now like he will be all we have there next year too unless Bryant surprises us. So he would have to do even if he really hasn't improved (God, I hope that isn't the case and I don't expect it to be).


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I definitely am with you on your last sentence. I think he comes out of his shell this year. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,585]

I know all these things you've stated. I was more just putting that Perea idea out there cause it makes about as much sense as other conclusions made on here about players. I really hope Hanner comes out this year and plays as advertised. Hanner has been given the time to develop and adjust to the game, but now all of a sudden other players aren't being given the same. Im just saying that its gotten comical how people are already ready for certain players to transfer before we have seen them. I guess I'm just rooting for certain players to actually make an impact. I'd love to see Tim Priller stay with the team cause I think his combination of size and shooting is something we have never had and those stretch players are really useful. I think there are players , that if given the time necessary to develop, can add a lot to this squad. Of course you have to find space for guys like Morgan and Bryant. So it is definitely a complex

serious question? Have you seen Priller play Defense or move at all laterally? Did u see him in the post on that video from the other day with Yogi driving on JB? He makes Jeff Howard look athletic. I know it's not all about athleticism but REALLY?


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[Kepner 1,268]

serious question? Have you seen Priller play Defense or move at all laterally? Did u see him in the post on that video from the other day with Yogi driving on JB? He makes Jeff Howard look athletic. I know it's not all about athleticism but REALLY?


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I haven't seen him play defensively cause they haven't played any games yet hahah. Or yes Im going to let one small video clip determine what I think about a player. I'm just saying based off his shooting, the guy could be useful. Im not saying he is going to be the Big Ten player of the year anytime soon but if you had read my comment you would see that I pointed out his size and shooting.

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,585]

I haven't seen him play defensively cause they haven't played any games yet hahah. Or yes Im going to let one small video clip determine what I think about a player. I'm just saying based off his shooting, the guy could be useful. Im not saying he is going to be the Big Ten player of the year anytime soon but if you had read my comment you would see that I pointed out his size and shooting.

That same argument can be made of his shooting? Small video clips of his shooting too. It doesn't take long to judge ones athleticism. Walk into an open gym and you know the uncoordinated ones in an instant. It doesn't take the full game to determine.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 51,585]

I'll just say this, if Priller turns out to be a contributor at any time Crean will have done a MASTERFUL job of developing and recruiting.


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[CottageGrove 563]

In all the back and forth, I think there is a larger point here. And that is that to bring in more players next year there are people who will have to leave, whether it be to the NBA or transfer. And it's not always the guys who are the least productive who are the ones to go. I hate to throw out names, but it could be someone like Robinson. If he's asked to be the 6th man but thinks he should start it could easily be him.

 

I could see it being Hanner too, especially if we pick up Bryant. In all fairness, and while I'm rooting like heck for him to succeed, to this point Hanner hasn't lived up to that lofty recruiting ranking he had. And by the end of last year I can remember quite a few posters on the various sites talking about how they would prefer we bring in "basketball players" first rather than just athletes like Hanner, even if it meant bringing in less athletic players.

 

So at this point I think it's fair to speculate that it could be anyone, really. Change is inevitable and unstoppable. But the current culture of transfers (how many was it this in D1?) is a change in college basketball that I've hated to see.

 

And yeah, I realize that last line makes me sound like an old man.  :scratchhead:

[Kepner 1,268]

That same argument can be made of his shooting? Small video clips of his shooting too. It doesn't take long to judge ones athleticism. Walk into an open gym and you know the uncoordinated ones in an instant. It doesn't take the full game to determine.


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No his shooting comes from all his stats added with video. I know you have your mind made up and nothing is going to change it but Im just saying Id rather have someone who can put the ball in the bucket (Priller) than someone who  didn't account for anything on offense (your example of Howard)

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

Dead horse---see club-----I'm definitely not getting into the so and so should leave discussion until we see the guys play this season.

 

I have a different take on O.G.  You know I like him----reminds me of Oladipo when he was in high school----but with no insider info and after reading his coach's comments---  I believe he is ready to commit to IU but is a backup plan to Shake which is why he's waiting 7 to 10 days to decide.  That gives Shake a chance to decide first.  If Shake says no----OG will commit.  If Shake says yes----OG goes to Georgia or Iowa.  Even I admit Shake is more polished now and the better player now and would be a recruiting priority over OG.

 

The reason I think this is our ships are just too limited to take them both with Juwan and then still be looking at bigs like Bryant and Kasongo.  This is how college basketball recruiting works nowadays.  Just my opinion!

[Hovadipo 61,577]

I like your scenario. ^^


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[Kepner 1,268]

Dead horse---see club-----I'm definitely not getting into the so and so should leave discussion until we see the guys play this season.

 

I have a different take on O.G.  You know I like him----reminds me of Oladipo when he was in high school----but with no insider info and after reading his coach's comments---  I believe he is ready to commit to IU but is a backup plan to Shake which is why he's waiting 7 to 10 days to decide.  That gives Shake a chance to decide first.  If Shake says no----OG will commit.  If Shake says yes----OG goes to Georgia or Iowa.  Even I admit Shake is more polished now and the better player now and would be a recruiting priority over OG.

 

The reason I think this is our ships are just too limited to take them both with Juwan and then still be looking at bigs like Bryant and Kasongo.  This is how college basketball recruiting works nowadays.  Just my opinion!

Well said rebelhoosier! 

[BGleas 9,031]

We don't know if Priller can put the ball in the bucket at this level. In high school he was a 6'9" guy getting his shot off against much smaller players and much less athletic than he'll see in the Big Ten.

Getting your shot off against guys that are the same size and far superior athletically is an entire different thing.

No his shooting comes from all his stats added with video. I know you have your mind made up and nothing is going to change it but Im just saying Id rather have someone who can put the ball in the bucket (Priller) than someone who  didn't account for anything on offense (your example of Howard)

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

We will have to see BGleas----he did play 5A ball in Texas----the highest division and best competition.

 

He also was over 50% from 3 in Canada----the best I can remember.

 

And who could forget Yogi's quote from practices---- about telling current IU players to not let Priller get the ball !

 

Believe me--shooting will not be his problem!

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

We will have to see BGleas----he did play 5A ball in Texas----the highest division and best competition.

 

He also was over 50% from 3 in Canada----the best I can remember.

 

And who could forget Yogi's quote from practices---- about telling current IU players to not let Priller get the ball !

 

Believe me--shooting will not be his problem!

[MikeRoberts 7,996]

No his shooting comes from all his stats added with video. I know you have your mind made up and nothing is going to change it but Im just saying Id rather have someone who can put the ball in the bucket (Priller) than someone who didn't account for anything on offense (your example of Howard)

You realize that Howard averaged 17/13 and Priller averaged 17/5 in high school right? If priller is an offensive weapon than so was Howard


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