Daily MLB Banter

[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, Demo said:

I’ve always liked Ohtani, but this is so gross I can’t even believe it. Allows the Dodgers to circumvent the competitive balance tax implications. I assume it allows Ohtani to circumvent California state income tax. Gives the richest team in baseball the opportunity to acquire probably 2 frontline starters. Apparently it was his idea. I really, really want to see this go badly for the Dodgers. 

Yeah this needs to stop 

[Banksyrules]

I'm a Mets fan and definitely benefits us but to me it's horrible for the game of baseball.  

[cbp4iu]

9 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Yeah this needs to stop 

Dodgers will load up now. It’s unreal that you can defer 97% of your deal. I think 50% max should be threshold.

[HinnyHoosier]

1 hour ago, Demo said:

I’ve always liked Ohtani, but this is so gross I can’t even believe it. Allows the Dodgers to circumvent the competitive balance tax implications. I assume it allows Ohtani to circumvent California state income tax. Gives the richest team in baseball the opportunity to acquire probably 2 frontline starters. Apparently it was his idea. I really, really want to see this go badly for the Dodgers. 

Maybe he'll be a $700 million dollar man in the regular season and Clayton Kershaw in the postseason. 

[Brass Cannon]

1 hour ago, cbp4iu said:

Dodgers will load up now. It’s unreal that you can defer 97% of your deal. I think 50% max should be threshold.

I think they should change it to where in total you can defer the average salary of the life of the contract and then defer however much they want each year but this is just dumb. Or force the team to pay them that amount up front so they can’t just make a stupid decision and say it’s the futures problem. 

[RaceToTheTop]

Watch MLB change the deferment rule….basically allowing only the Ohtani contract to do it and screwing other teams over.

[RaceToTheTop]

On 12/10/2023 at 9:28 AM, kreigh8 said:

Why? To solve what problem? Dodgers have had payroll of $300M lately and hadn’t won a World Series with the exception of the shortened Covid season. The Rangers and Diamondbacks played in this past World Series. Might we wait out the off-season and have some games actually played before we change how the game is operated?

Rangers payroll was top ten.

[RaceToTheTop]

FWIW, last year the Padres were going to offer Aaron Judge a 14 year deal that would have paid him until he was 44.  MLB was set to void that saying it was working around the salary cap.  So how is Ohtani’s deal different?

[Rico]

3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

FWIW, last year the Padres were going to offer Aaron Judge a 14 year deal that would have paid him until he was 44.  MLB was set to void that saying it was working around the salary cap.  So how is Ohtani’s deal different?

Giants?

[Hovadipo]

35 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Watch MLB change the deferment rule….basically allowing only the Ohtani contract to do it and screwing other teams over.

That's collectively bargained, so I'd be surprised if they agree to any major changes.

[Alford Bailey]

Those dollars become worth significantly less over time. Wonder if that is factored in to these deferred contracts?

[Brass Cannon]

55 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Those dollars become worth significantly less over time. Wonder if that is factored in to these deferred contracts?

True.  The interest alone on that first years 68 million woolf

be a huge amount 

[Demo]

Utter. Freaking. Genius. 

[kreigh8]

14 hours ago, Demo said:

Utter. Freaking. Genius. 

When it comes time to pay the rest of Ohtani's contract in 2034...sell the team. Wolf of Wall Street still on my list of things to watch, but that line floored me.

[Brass Cannon]

4 hours ago, kreigh8 said:

When it comes time to pay the rest of Ohtani's contract in 2034...sell the team. Wolf of Wall Street still on my list of things to watch, but that line floored me.

It’s a great watch.  Not sure I ever need to rewatch it but thoroughly enjoyed the watch.  

[LamarCheeks]

Adrian Beltre, Joe Mauer and Todd Helton into the Hall of Fame. 

To me, Beltre's a slam dunk. Not so sure about the others. They were very good -- but HOF worthy? 

Well, the voters said so. Nobody asked me! 

[LIHoosier]

28 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Adrian Beltre, Joe Mauer and Todd Helton into the Hall of Fame. 

To me, Beltre's a slam dunk. Not so sure about the others. They were very good -- but HOF worthy? 

Well, the voters said so. Nobody asked me! 

Being Peyton Manning's buddy (Helton) just doesn't help you get in the Football HOF, it works for baseball too. 

[LIHoosier]

A little pre-season MLB talk

 

 

[Rico]

"Say it ain't so Sho."

[Rico]

On 3/21/2024 at 12:12 PM, Rico said:

"Say it ain't so Sho."