Michigan Coach Dusty May to Dallas Mavs

[IUHoosierJoe]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Next years roster has quite a bit of talent. Next years roster is also poorly constructed with very little depth. What is controversial about that, especially since it's true?

It’s your opinion. It remains to be seen if it’s true. But you know that. 

[Pagoda]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Next years roster has quite a bit of talent. Next years roster is also poorly constructed with very little depth. What is controversial about that, especially since it's true?

Please give CDD a chance.

[AH1971]

2 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Season three finished #98 in the NET.  Season four had top-5 roster money -- he still collapsed early on and missed the tournament again.  He was given a chance.  He was a terrible coach.  Even worse his effort level was very poor.

Yea, you are disconnected.  Sorry.

Woodson was already getting heat well before season 3 even started lol. He wasn't Brad Stevens and was never going to get a fair shake. You and I both know that. 

[AH1971]

Just now, Pagoda said:

Please give CDD a chance.

I've called for him to be fired? Not even approaching the hot seat in my opinion. You're good at strawman though. 

[Home Jersey]

What would the offseason be around here without recurring rants that the fanbase is IUBB's problem? Haha jeez.

Nice weather today. Good day to step away from the keyboard and have a stroll in the sun.

[Pagoda]

Just now, AH1971 said:

Woodson was already getting heat well before season 3 even started lol. He wasn't Brad Stevens and was never going to get a fair shake. You and I both know that. 

False!  After two seasons he got a raise and an increased buyout.  And the fanbase was content.  We had Kel'el coming in and things were looking alright.

Then he completely collapsed, all on his own.  

You and I both know that.

[Pagoda]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I've called for him to be fired? Not even approaching the hot seat in my opinion. You're good at strawman though. 

No.  You're quite critical of his roster and I'm just asking that you give him a chance.

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

No.  You're quite critical of his roster and I'm just asking that you give him a chance.

I always called things like I see them. Next years team has a chance to win a bunch of games. Next years team also has a chance to be worse than last year with just a single injury. 

Regardless of what happens, I won't be the guy calling for DeVries head after 2 years, screaming for Billy Donovan or Brad Stevens. You must be the other guy. 

[Stuhoo]

20 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Season three finished #98 in the NET.  Season four had top-5 roster money -- he still collapsed early on and missed the tournament again.  He was given a chance.  He was a terrible coach.  Even worse his effort level was very poor.

Yea, you are disconnected.  Sorry.

"But other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?"

[Brass Cannon]

20 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Please give CDD a chance.

If we stay healthy CDD will likely look pretty good.  If the walking boot of doom

isnt gathering dust we are likely in trouble. 
 

Thats really why Dolson would be wise to find the money to poach a depth piece or two from Michigan 

[Pagoda]

11 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I always called things like I see them. Next years team has a chance to win a bunch of games. Next years team also has a chance to be worse than next year with a single injury. 

Regardless of what happens, I won't be the guy calling for DeVries head after 2 years, screaming for Billy Donovan or Brad Stevens. You must be the other guy. 

Nope.  Though I will look at the results and formulate a viewpoint on the coach/program.

And even if I did "call" for a coaching change, I am a message board poster with exactly zero, none, zilch, nada influence over the program.  That is the reality.

[iu eyedoc]

2 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Did they give him a chance? He went to the tournament each of his first two seasons, finished 2nd in the B10 (sweeping the eventual champions and rival Purdue with the NPOY) and y'all wanted him gone less than 6 months later. No, Woodson wasn't given a chance. He wasn't Brad Stevens and that was all that was needed.

And I'm disconnected with reality? Super rich. 

You with regard to Coach Woodson :

[iu eyedoc]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

Woodson was already getting heat well before season 3 even started lol. He wasn't Brad Stevens and was never going to get a fair shake. You and I both know that. 

Whose fault is it some understand basketball enough to see how bad of a college coach CMW was long before you could?

[AH1971]

3 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Whose fault is it some understand basketball enough to see how bad of a college coach CMW was long before you could?

I've been following IU basketball and college basketball in general longer than you've been alive. I don't need your input on what constitutes a good basketball coach. He lost the fan base after year 2 and when you lose the fan base here, you're done. 

Oh well, onto another cycle of toxicity. It's what we do.

[AZ Hoosier]

With Boynton "officially" named interim, what does that do to the transfer window for UM players? With a named interim coach, it looks like there won't be an immediate search for a permanent replacement for May... so can the players transfer "free of charge" now or not?

[Home Jersey]

2 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

With Boynton "officially" named interim, what does that do to the transfer window for UM players? With a named interim coach, it looks like there won't be an immediate search for a permanent replacement for May... so can the players transfer "free of charge" now or not?

I think they have a 15 day window to enter the portal now that the coach has been named. Could be mistaken. Also could be mistaken, but pretty sure the players are all on campus already so I'd be a little surprised if any of them end up leaving. Seems worth a shot though.

[AZ Hoosier]

2 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Woodson was already getting heat well before season 3 even started lol. He wasn't Brad Stevens and was never going to get a fair shake. You and I both know that. 

Woodson didn't get a fair shake? What are you smoking?

He was a legendary here as a player, and had good connections to the league. People had been clamoring for an "IU guy" for years... Woodson was his own worst enemy. He had no clue what he was getting into, and despite the help that Dolson set up for him, he cast that off. His HS recruiting was non-existent. He was lazy and preferred to play golf in the recruiting season rather than build relationships with potential recruits. What happened to Mike Woodson was 100% the fault of Mike Woodson. He had IU connections and saw himself as the conquering hero, connected to the money within the IU fanbase.

He had a chance to do something significant here, but instead, chose to screw the pooch. But no one can say that he wasn't given a fair shake.

Moving on, as this is not the thread for a MMW discussion.

[JSHoosier]

Mike Woodson had more of a chance than any other college program would've given him. This thread also isn't about Mike Woodson.

[Brass Cannon]

6 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I think they have a 15 day window to enter the portal now that the coach has been named. Could be mistaken. Also could be mistaken, but pretty sure the players are all on campus already so I'd be a little surprised if any of them end up leaving. Seems worth a shot though.

They will leave if the money is right I am sure.  Teams with lots of donors who are desperate for depth

[AZ Hoosier]

8 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I think they have a 15 day window to enter the portal now that the coach has been named. Could be mistaken. Also could be mistaken, but pretty sure the players are all on campus already so I'd be a little surprised if any of them end up leaving. Seems worth a shot though.

Yeah, was more wondering if the window had opened on them yet...