Fire Moren

[TTT]

14 minutes ago, Claxdj01 said:

I would think that their goal would to be winners in every sport. Indiana has the largest alumni base in the country, with many very wealthy people. I don’t buy that money isn’t there to be used. If the university makes a coaching change I highly doubt an assistant would be the choice. You don’t promote an assistant from a team that’s last in the league if you’re serious about winning 

Not from the current staff.

[ronzo4IU]

37 minutes ago, Claxdj01 said:

I would think that their goal would to be winners in every sport. Indiana has the largest alumni base in the country, with many very wealthy people. I don’t buy that money isn’t there to be used. If the university makes a coaching change I highly doubt an assistant would be the choice. You don’t promote an assistant from a team that’s last in the league if you’re serious about winning 

I would hope this to be the case

[HoosierHoopster]

I don’t know what’s going on inside the program and with Moren right now but the idea of calling for her resignation or moving on for 1 season of failure, following a mass exodus, and with an outstanding best ever incoming class, is just plain moronic to me. What a fair weather fickle unfocused approach to team building. One would think the most successful coach ever would have fans’ giving her the benefit the doubt for 1 year but I guess basic common sense is a lost art.

if she really is burnt out and ready to resign or walk it will come from her. If this is just a disaster of a season following the mass exodus then she’ll do well next season with the incoming talent and this thread will be a bad joke.

[Banksyrules]

I mean the program was in gutter before she came. Unless she’s done on her volition then she gets another year at minimum. Woodson got better treatment and he was an absolute program killer. 

[Claxdj01]

37 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

I don’t know what’s going on inside the program and with Moren right now but the idea of calling for her resignation or moving on for 1 season of failure, following a mass exodus, and with an outstanding best ever incoming class, is just plain moronic to me. What a fair weather fickle unfocused approach to team building. One would think the most successful coach ever would have fans’ giving her the benefit the doubt for 1 year but I guess basic common sense is a lost art.

if she really is burnt out and ready to resign or walk it will come from her. If this is just a disaster of a season following the mass exodus then she’ll do well next season with the incoming talent and this thread will be a bad joke.

I’m sorry, but whose fault is it that they are dead last in the big ten and winless? Can anyone honestly say the coaching and team building has been outstanding the last couple of years? Who’s to blame for the mass exodus? I think it would be very difficult to go from first to last in 4 years or so, you’d have to about try to do it. Watching the games, the level of play is atrocious. She hasn’t figured out a press in 10 years. It’s time to move on. She doesn’t like nil. How many times have you heard “I only want a certain kind of player to be here” well it doesn’t work anymore. And then there’s the classic help is on the way. I love Mike Davis, and that didn’t work out then either. But in today’s world a committ doesn’t matter. After this disaster of a season I’ll be shocked if any of the recruits actually show up. Party is over. Assembly hall wants to be rocking. 

[Alford Bailey]

Fell off a cliff. Something bad wrong here.

[TTT]

T. Moren has not forgotten how to coach.  However, after losing 6 players to the transfer portal, IU Ladies were not able to get one high impact player from transfer portal last year…..not even Z because of injury history which continues….. but were only able to get very average players that would come with questionable potential and T. Moren was hoping she and staff could develop them…..just not good enough at this level.   T. Moren knows it.  
T. Moren has always kept a talent thin roster…..2 or 3 (older 5 stars that can score needed from transfer portal..:.hard to win scoring in the 60s each game….most 5 star players will play some defense and can handle and pass the ball and some can even rebound ….that’s why they are 5 stars.

[HoosierHoopster]

1 hour ago, Claxdj01 said:

I’m sorry, but whose fault is it that they are dead last in the big ten and winless? Can anyone honestly say the coaching and team building has been outstanding the last couple of years? Who’s to blame for the mass exodus? I think it would be very difficult to go from first to last in 4 years or so, you’d have to about try to do it. Watching the games, the level of play is atrocious. She hasn’t figured out a press in 10 years. It’s time to move on. She doesn’t like nil. How many times have you heard “I only want a certain kind of player to be here” well it doesn’t work anymore. And then there’s the classic help is on the way. I love Mike Davis, and that didn’t work out then either. But in today’s world a committ doesn’t matter. After this disaster of a season I’ll be shocked if any of the recruits actually show up. Party is over. Assembly hall wants to be rocking. 

I’m sorry, you have no idea.

[ronzo4IU]

2 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

I don’t know what’s going on inside the program and with Moren right now but the idea of calling for her resignation or moving on for 1 season of failure, following a mass exodus, and with an outstanding best ever incoming class, is just plain moronic to me. What a fair weather fickle unfocused approach to team building. One would think the most successful coach ever would have fans’ giving her the benefit the doubt for 1 year but I guess basic common sense is a lost art.

if she really is burnt out and ready to resign or walk it will come from her. If this is just a disaster of a season following the mass exodus then she’ll do well next season with the incoming talent and this thread will be a bad joke.

It’s certainly not just one season of failure…come on..lol

[Golfman25]

No clue about Girls basketball.  Closest I ever came was 1986, in speech class when a player gave a speech on why we should care.  But, a bad season is a grind.  Bad things happen, and worse things happen from there.  You begin to question your existence, the meaning of life, and whether you should kick the dog when you get home.  She may be burned out.  Or she just may be ready for a reset.  I suppose only Scott and Pam will know that when the time comes.  Good luck to her.  

[Claxdj01]

34 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

I’m sorry, you have no idea.

Excuse me? I’ve watched about every game in the last 5 or 6 years. I do have an idea. You’re an idiot if you think moren should just get a free pass to continue this garbage. That Miami home game as a 1 seed was TERRIBLE. Since then it has been downhill. They choked with a huge lead to Ohio state in the big ten just prior to it. It’s time for a change. They keep getting worse 

[8bucks]

Regarding the excellent best ever class we have coming in, how many are in the class?  What is it ranked vs others nationally and vs BigTen?  Are these freshman expected to have an immediate impact such that we compete for a top quartile BigTen finish?  

[Claxdj01]

Just now, 8bucks said:

Regarding the excellent best ever class we have coming in, how many are in the class?  What is it ranked vs others nationally and vs BigTen?  Are these freshman expected to have an immediate impact such that we compete for a top quartile BigTen finish?  

I’d guess none of them actually show up after this dead last big ten train wreck, now that the rules allow you to kind of do what you want to 

[Claxdj01]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

T. Moren has not forgotten how to coach.  However, after losing 6 players to the transfer portal, IU Ladies were not able to get one high impact player from transfer portal last year…..not even Z because of injury history which continues….. but were only able to get very average players that would come with questionable potential and T. Moren was hoping she and staff could develop them…..just not good enough at this level.   T. Moren knows it.  
T. Moren has always kept a talent thin roster…..2 or 3 (older 5 stars that can score needed from transfer portal..:.hard to win scoring in the 60s each game….most 5 star players will play some defense and can handle and pass the ball and some can even rebound ….that’s why they are 5 stars.

She’s washed up. The time has passed her by. Why pride your self on a talent thin roster. 

[TheWatShot]

14 minutes ago, Claxdj01 said:

I’d guess none of them actually show up after this dead last big ten train wreck, now that the rules allow you to kind of do what you want to 

Let's pretend they not only show up, but actually contribute next season. How much better could we be? Top half of the conference/bubble team? Not going to get people back in Assembly Hall. 

 

If we were 4-6 or maybe 3-7 in the conference and the team was fighting hard and growing, I'd support giving her another year. We're 0-10 and going nowhere. I just don't see things getting back to where we want them to be if she sticks around. 

[TTT]

18 minutes ago, Claxdj01 said:

She’s washed up. The time has passed her by. Why pride your self on a talent thin roster. 

If I remember correctly did you call last year that the players were leaving the team to the transfer portal while others were debating and a few days later to the surprise of many, it happened?

[TTT]

8 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Let's pretend they not only show up, but actually contribute next season. How much better could we be? Top half of the conference/bubble team? Not going to get people back in Assembly Hall. 

 

If we were 4-6 or maybe 3-7 in the conference and the team was fighting hard and growing, I'd support giving her another year. We're 0-10 and going nowhere. I just don't see things getting back to where we want them to be if she sticks around. 

Only chance for next year is a couple players from transfer portal who are like WNBA bound type players…

.Side-note:  though they may do it somewhat on their own anyway many very top players may not take well to being told they are expected to live in the gym and work on expanding their game by playing out of position during recruiting.

[TTT]

30 minutes ago, Claxdj01 said:

She’s washed up. The time has passed her by. Why pride your self on a talent thin roster. 

I agree about….Why pride yourself on a talent thin roster.  (maybe, insecurities and uncomfortable, confidence lacking)

[HoosierHoopster]

12 hours ago, ronzo4IU said:

It’s certainly not just one season of failure…come on..lol

10 straight tourney appearances— come on now

[HoosierHoopster]

12 hours ago, 8bucks said:

Regarding the excellent best ever class we have coming in, how many are in the class?  What is it ranked vs others nationally and vs BigTen?  Are these freshman expected to have an immediate impact such that we compete for a top quartile BigTen finish?  

This is really kind of easy to look up right? You know I respect your posting so don’t take that the wrong way but this is legitimately a very strong class as every write up on it indicates 

—4 key ranked players— Gigi Battle, A James, Addison Nyemchek, Zoe Jackson— that’s real balance, 2 guards, wing and center
—Top 6 class rank overall, top 2 in the B1G 

— That’s always generally an unknown but these 4 are literally the best incoming class the program has ever had, as highly ranked and very successful HS players and importantly— they bring the type of athleticism and size IU women have been lacking.