How is Darian DeVries Doing So Far?

[Jeff Flabjohns]

4 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Then expect the same results in Y1 as in Y4 and wait for 3 years until we hire the next coach, I guess? 

Coaching needs to get better. Financial commitment needs to continue growing or you lose ground relative to others.  

I disagree completely. It’s not like we’re a bottom half of the P5 budget and I’m asking DDv to work miracles before we increase it. 
 

From all reports we’re paying him a top 20 NIL. Keep the value the same (maybe it’ll fall to top 30, oh no!) and let’s see if he can get into the tournament with it. 
This idea we need to keep throwing money at a coach so they can prove their worth is abhorrent

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

I know we are mid! We’re even worse than mid over the last decade.
 

So let’s NOT increase NIL for this program until the coach shows us he’s cut out for this job—not making the tournament with a top 25 budget is strike one. Let’s see if he can do it next year before investing further. 

Lol, why? 

I want Indiana basketball to be good, don't you? 

You even said... "it's not my money" ... It's not mine, either! 

Get someone to cut a phat check for basketball and keep the hopium on standby. 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Actually  im 100% IU basketball fan and 100% cbb fan. I can just separate the 2 when IU is  a middle of the pack mid program and still enjoy the rest of college basketball when they are.   I still suffer with every game like the rest here.  It is what it is 

USPS you’re being too generous. We’re not even middle of the pack as far as the last decade goes, I know you know this.  

The results this year should not be ‘rewarded’ with an increase in NIL budget. If DDv is the right guy he’ll get us in next year with his still very competitive budget. 

[Home Jersey]

5 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

IU admin think they are too good for coaches like Hoiberg or Collins and either of them would be better than what we have! Prove me wrong next season Coach DeVries….I really want to be wrong!

Would Hoiberg or Collins come here? Lol, I sorta doubt it

[Jeff Flabjohns]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Lol, why? 

I want Indiana basketball to be good, don't you? 

You even said... "it's not my money" ... It's not mine, either! 

Get someone to cut a phat check for basketball and keep the hopium on standby. 

Just like last year! What has DDv shown in his time as a head coach that he’s gonna do anything with the money? 

Again, I’m going to assume there’s nobody lining up to write that phat check because of this. This year has been disgusting. 

[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

USPS you’re being too generous. We’re not even middle of the pack as far as the last decade goes, I know you know this.  

I know for 9 years now IU has been on the bubble 4 or 5 years either last 4 in or first 4 out.  To me that is middle of the pack.   B1G wise they have gone .500 or a game or 2 under more times then not putting them in the middle  of the pack    Never at the top and never at the very bottom    

 

[hoopsta007]

Can’t believe I am now wishing Woodson did get 1 more year. At least we would have the rumor mill to look forward to.  What does Devries get, at least 2 more?

[Home Jersey]

6 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

Just like last year! What has DDv shown in his time as a head coach that he’s gonna do anything with the money? 

Again, I’m going to assume there’s nobody lining up to write that phat check because of this. This year has been disgusting. 

We can all be disappointed with the results, of course. 

He's going to be here for at least 2-3 more seasons and IUBB still has a rabid fanbase, despite IUFB being the new top dog in the athletic department. Football winning a title will generate a ton of revenue for the AD and excitement for the whole fanbase, including and especially basketball IMO. 

Cig's already got his NIL to a level where he can win championships. Roster for next year is set. At a certain point, giving all surplus investment to football is a diminishing returns situation when your flagship program has sucked for the better part of three decades. 

All I am saying is I take no issue with the AD shaking the couch cushions to find some spare change that will equip the basketball coach to better compete in the arms race for talent. Wouldn't think that's a controversial view on an IUBB board. 

[str8baller]

1 minute ago, hoopsta007 said:

Can’t believe I am now wishing Woodson did get 1 more year. At least we would have the rumor mill to look forward to.  What does Devries get, at least 2 more?

 Most interesting IU basketball ever is, is during a coaching search. 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

Just now, Home Jersey said:

All I am saying is I take no issue with the AD shaking the couch cushions to find some spare change that will equip the basketball coach to compete in the arms race for talent. Wouldn't think that's a controversial view on an IUBB board. 

Gave the guy a corvette and he crashed it in year one. Let’s see what he can do with a Ferrari next season. 

[Home Jersey]

Just now, Jeff Flabjohns said:

Gave the guy a corvette and he crashed it in year one. Let’s see what he can do with a Ferrari next season. 

Not my money!  :)

[hoopsta007]

4 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

We can all be disappointed with the results, of course. 

He's going to be here for at least 2-3 more seasons and IUBB still has a rabid fanbase, despite IUFB being the new top dog in the athletic department. Football winning a title will generate a ton of revenue for the AD and excitement for the whole fanbase, including and especially basketball IMO. 

Cig's already got his NIL to a level where he can win championships. Roster for next year is set. At a certain point, giving all surplus investment to football is a diminishing returns situation when your flagship program has sucked for the better part of three decades. 

All I am saying is I take no issue with the AD shaking the couch cushions to find some spare change that will equip the basketball coach to better compete in the arms race for talent. Wouldn't think that's a controversial view on an IUBB board. 

Can we use next year’s NIL money to pay a buyout?  Then it’s money well spent 

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, hoopsta007 said:

Can we use next year’s NIL money to pay a buyout?  Then it’s money well spent 

Well, his buyout for this year is 10M, so we can spend the NIL budget on that and give our new coach a whopping $0 :)

For general info, it decreases 2M every season for the next two years before dropping to $3M in the 4th year of the deal. 

[Golfman25]

5 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

What is the point you're trying to make? That good players don't want to play for DDV? Genuinely asking for clarification. 

My point is CDDv is in competition with a lot of coaches at the P5 level that have a more credible resume at this level.  Say you're a stud entering the portal.  You get a call from Bill Self, Hurley, Todd Golden, and maybe even Sampson.  And then one from CDDv.  Who are you calling back first?  Will you even get to CDDv?  He's got nothing to sell, especially if he misses the tournament this year.  Some here think money can make the difference, but I beg to differ -- at least for the type of players you want.  

Cig didn't have credibility at the P4 level his first year either.  But over two years, he took a bunch of 2-3* "misfits" and won a national title.  If you're a 5* and the phone rings with Cig on the other end, you're darn sure you're at least picking it up.  

[Stuhoo]

Tonight he did poopy.

 (I apologize for the above inappropriate language word)

[str8baller]

3 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

You get a call from Bill Self, Hurley, Todd Golden, and maybe even Sampson.  And then one from CDDv.  Who are you calling back first?

Kids aren’t taking those calls. Agents are. And they’re trying to get the most money. Pope made the S16 last year and had more cachet than CDD, but everyone here was pretty happy when IU outbid UK for his services. You said it yourself that IU and CDD got Bailey by paying more than Self or Miller would. 

[Golfman25]

27 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Would Hoiberg or Collins come here? Lol, I sorta doubt it

Collins might as soon as his kids are out of high school, which I think they are or very close.  NWs problem is the entrance requirements and they are hard on transfers.  He could probably do wonders at a place like IU.  

[cbp4iu]

He needs to find an assistant who can help coach defense. We are statistically since Jan 1st one of the worst teams defensively. That has got to improve. He needs to make a statement. Sit your son!!!!! If we lose to MSU I say play the guys who will be back. Get them reps. DeVries good luck in the portal. I think I would be willing to ease on him if he has a clear plan. If you get younger guys that are Soph, Juniors and we had some kind of 2 year window with those guys I would be fine. What I don’t want another year of 7/8 seniors with limited minutes for our underclassmen. 

[Golfman25]

9 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Kids aren’t taking those calls. Agents are. And they’re trying to get the most money. Pope made the S16 last year and had more cachet than CDD, but everyone here was pretty happy when IU outbid UK for his services. You said it yourself that IU and CDD got Bailey by paying more than Self or Miller would. 

Kids/Agents is semantics.  But maybe those others knew something we didn't?  

[Golfman25]

38 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

I disagree completely. It’s not like we’re a bottom half of the P5 budget and I’m asking DDv to work miracles before we increase it. 
 

From all reports we’re paying him a top 20 NIL. Keep the value the same (maybe it’ll fall to top 30, oh no!) and let’s see if he can get into the tournament with it. 
This idea we need to keep throwing money at a coach so they can prove their worth is abhorrent

Hopefully, the new guy makes a difference.  2000 players enter the portal.  Even sticking to the "top" 500 that's a lot of kids to evaluate.  Need to really find guys that give you maximum return for the $$ spent.