Darian DeVries - New IUBB Head Coach

[CSP]

7 minutes ago, JustWinBaby said:

The... the V is capitalized though...

And? DDv or DDV .... you know exactly who I'm talking about. 

[rayl456]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

This is just a guess. But 3 high school kids Sisley and 2 from WV. Then 10 portal guys and none from the current roster. 

Yeah…sorry, I know that some think Goode would be a likely choice, but no.  This is a new start…new mindset…new regime.  No leftovers, thanks.  JMHO.  :)

[CSP]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

MacLean and Odih have

I know that. 

[Motley's]

4 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

I get what he’s saying here but had to look it up. Archie had a higher winning percentage than both Gregory or Grant though not by a lot.

I think the most notable thing is the records the season before they got the job. Gregory was 22-14 in 2010-11. Archie was 20-13 in 2011-12. Medved was 17-17 at Drake in 2017-18, DeVries was 24-10 in 2018-19. WV was 9-23 in 2023-24, DeVries was 19-13 in 24-25, despite losing his two top scorers to injury. 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I know that. 

Odih, MacLean, and Sisley would be the 3 high school kids Chris was alluding too. Hawthorne isn't coming to IU. 

[Alford Bailey]

2 minutes ago, Motley's said:

I think the most notable thing is the records the season before they got the job. Gregory was 22-14 in 2010-11. Archie was 20-13 in 2011-12. Medved was 17-17 at Drake in 2017-18, DeVries was 24-10 in 2018-19. WV was 9-23 in 2023-24, DeVries was 19-13 in 24-25, despite losing his two top scorers to injury. 

Definitely Devries has shown the ability to turn things quickly 

[Motley's]

3 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

The third paragraph misrepresents what happened the last two years at Dayton and why Brian Gregory left.  Sure, he won a lot.  But not in conference.  The last two years of Gregory's coaching at Dayton resulted in dropping completely out of the picture of competing at high levels in the ACC.  He went from 2nd to 7th and 8th in the conference and only got one NCAAT bid in his last 7 years there.  Recruiting had dried up.  For the University of Dayton...they saw no reason to extend the contract and Gregory knew he was on a slippery slope.  Brian Gregory jumped ship as UD contemplated making him walk the plank.  

Miller came in and the cupboard was bare.

According to Wiki: Miller became the head coach of the Dayton Flyers men's basketball team in 2011 and turned around a program that had back-to-back disappointing seasons. His first season with Dayton saw Miller take the school to 20 wins. In his third year, 2014, he had the Flyers in the Elite Eight with 26 wins; to get there, Dayton upset three higher seeded teams. After the Elite Eight run in 2014, Miller faced replacing three starters and four seniors from that team. Despite having a depleted roster featuring just six players who were recruited to Dayton and no active player taller than 6-foot-6, Miller led his Flyers to a 27–9 overall record and to the third round of the 2015 NCAA tournament.

Miller's short stint at Dayton was the 2nd best coaching job at that university...second only to Don Donoher.  

I loved Miller's work at Dayton.  It did not translate to the big time at IU.  In my humble opinion...he was not a good fit.  But IU administration did not seem to support him in many ways relative to building his team.

Archie Miller had to go.

 

I think there's something to that. I was very high on his hiring, but something just seemed off from the beginning. I think he was handcuffed with not turning over the roster. I've always wondered what would have happened if he could have brought McKinley Wright. 

[CSP]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Odih, MacLean, and Sisley would be the 3 high school kids Chris was alluding too. Hawthorne isn't coming to IU. 

It's worded poorly if that's what he meant, but that's why I asked him. 

[CSP]

5 minutes ago, Motley's said:

I think the most notable thing is the records the season before they got the job. Gregory was 22-14 in 2010-11. Archie was 20-13 in 2011-12. Medved was 17-17 at Drake in 2017-18, DeVries was 24-10 in 2018-19. WV was 9-23 in 2023-24, DeVries was 19-13 in 24-25, despite losing his two top scorers to injury. 

2? 

[Golfman25]

14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

This is just a guess. But 3 high school kids Sisley and 2 from WV. Then 10 portal guys and none from the current roster. 

I would agree with this analysis.  

[Chris007]

16 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I didn't think Hawthorne had decommitted? 

I don't think he has 3 total HS kids. Sisley from IU and the 2 kids from WV who have recommitted to make the 3.

[IndyFife]

I have seen various references to Adam Howard and "what happened to him".  I mean, I know who he is and what happened to him - but never paid attention to the underlying root causes.  Just assumed he got Dane Fife'd and Thad Matta'd by Big Smoke.  Realize it is probably just rumors and innuendo but anybody care to fill me on whatever the backstory might be there?

[#1fanofafrin]

[CSP]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I don't think he has 3 total HS kids. Sisley from IU and the 2 kids from WV who have recommitted to make the 3.

I gotcha now. 

Someone mentioned Odih was pretty "linked" to Chester Frazier... do we know much about that situation? I'd like to find a HS pg we liked, but that's pretty tough to do this late in the process. 

[TadQueasy]

Just now, #1fanofafrin said:

[Ryno6284]

11 minutes ago, Motley's said:

I think there's something to that. I was very high on his hiring, but something just seemed off from the beginning. I think he was handcuffed with not turning over the roster. I've always wondered what would have happened if he could have brought McKinley Wright. 

His personality didn’t fit at IU! That was the first problem.

[Motley's]

9 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

2? 

Probably didn't phrase it right that he was one WV's two top scorers. They brought in Jayden Stone as a transfer to be a scorer. He averaged 20.8/5.6/2.7 the prior season at Detroit. Scored 30 in Detroit's final Horizon tourney game. Wasn't available all season for WV. 

[CSP]

1 minute ago, Motley's said:

Probably didn't phrase it right that he was one WV's two top scorers. They brought in Jayden Stone as a transfer to be a scorer. He averaged 20.8/5.6/2.7 the prior season at Detroit. Scored 30 in Detroit's final Horizon tourney game. Wasn't available all season for WV. 

ahhhhh. Didn't even know that. 

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

4 minutes ago, Motley's said:

Probably didn't phrase it right that he was one WV's two top scorers. They brought in Jayden Stone as a transfer to be a scorer. He averaged 20.8/5.6/2.7 the prior season at Detroit. Scored 30 in Detroit's final Horizon tourney game. Wasn't available all season for WV. 

Stone has one year left due to medical redshirt and I’d be happy with him coming to IU. I can see it now: Stone hits a massive 3 and you just got Dazed and Confused.

[IUHoosierJoe]

21 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

The third paragraph misrepresents what happened the last two years at Dayton and why Brian Gregory left.  Sure, he won a lot.  But not in conference.  The last two years of Gregory's coaching at Dayton resulted in dropping completely out of the picture of competing at high levels in the ACC.  He went from 2nd to 7th and 8th in the conference and only got one NCAAT bid in his last 7 years there.  Recruiting had dried up.  For the University of Dayton...they saw no reason to extend the contract and Gregory knew he was on a slippery slope.  Brian Gregory jumped ship as UD contemplated making him walk the plank.  

Miller came in and the cupboard was bare.

According to Wiki: Miller became the head coach of the Dayton Flyers men's basketball team in 2011 and turned around a program that had back-to-back disappointing seasons. His first season with Dayton saw Miller take the school to 20 wins. In his third year, 2014, he had the Flyers in the Elite Eight with 26 wins; to get there, Dayton upset three higher seeded teams. After the Elite Eight run in 2014, Miller faced replacing three starters and four seniors from that team. Despite having a depleted roster featuring just six players who were recruited to Dayton and no active player taller than 6-foot-6, Miller led his Flyers to a 27–9 overall record and to the third round of the 2015 NCAA tournament.

Miller's short stint at Dayton was the 2nd best coaching job at that university...second only to Don Donoher.  

I loved Miller's work at Dayton.  It did not translate to the big time at IU.  In my humble opinion...he was not a good fit.  But IU administration did not seem to support him in many ways relative to building his team.

Archie Miller had to go.

 

Not to turn this into an Archie thread, but I followed that program pretty closely back then, and the truth about it is really somewhere in between really good and stagnant.  He struggled his first 2 1/2 years, low conference finish his second year and started the third year 1-5 in the league and the natives were getting restless.  Then, mid-season, they miraculously turned it around and had the miracle Elite 8 run.

After that Archie was certainly very good in conference.  It should be noted that was right after Xavier and Butler left for the Big East, but he was still very good in league.  Never was able to have another tournament run, though.