Marian vs Indiana (exhibition) Fri. 11/1 7PM BTN+

[AZ Hoosier 6,546]

Thought Goode was supposed to be a sharp-shooter... 2-9 on 3pt is not that.

Impressed that Reneau played 18 minutes with ZERO fouls.

FT shooting still needs to improve.

10 TOs for the game is nice to see.

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1 minute ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Score and who’s playing well? Just checking in

IU won 106-64. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-exhibition-vs-marian-three-quick-reactions-highlights-stats/

Tucker, Rice and Reneau probably played best. Team is looking good. 

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19 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Thought Goode was supposed to be a sharp-shooter... 2-9 on 3pt is not that.

Impressed that Reneau played 18 minutes with ZERO fouls.

FT shooting still needs to improve.

10 TOs for the game is nice to see.

Goode has been cold to start, but we know he is a better shooter than what he has shown. He made one that was called back for an illegal screen on Ballo. He will be just fine once he gets in the flow. Just 2 exhibition games so far. 

57% on FTs - 8/14... One miss by Dallas James late in the game. He's really not going to play anything other than walk on minutes IMO so I think you can sort of discount that a bit. Tucker missed one, but was 9-12 from the floor. He is a very good shooter. Not worried about him hitting FTs. 70% still wouldn't be great FT shooting as a team, but I was actually encouraged Ballo was 4-6 from the stripe. I recall some teams basically using the ol "hack a Shaq" strategy on him at Arizona last year. Him shooting ~66% from there would take that off the table. Not sure if his conditioning will be able to get to where Woody apparently wants it during the season, but I like Ballo and this roster a hell of a lot. Looking forward to watching them against more legit competition.

[Hovadipo 55,077]

Nice little ball club. 

[FortWayneHoosier 5,913]

I think Goode will be fine once he finds his rhythm. Nothing to worry about. I listened to the whole game on the radio and we dominated as we should have. I think this years team will surprise many in a good way 

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56 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Thought Goode was supposed to be a sharp-shooter... 2-9 on 3pt is not that.

Impressed that Reneau played 18 minutes with ZERO fouls.

FT shooting still needs to improve.

10 TOs for the game is nice to see.

Why not make the negative comment the last one you made instead of leading with it?

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10 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Why not make the negative comment the last one you made instead of leading with it?

Why are you so confused and under the impression you’re a mod? Lmao 

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1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Thought Goode was supposed to be a sharp-shooter... 2-9 on 3pt is not that.

Impressed that Reneau played 18 minutes with ZERO fouls.

FT shooting still needs to improve.

10 TOs for the game is nice to see.

Goode’s 3 year percentage from the three at Illinois was 39%. I hope/trust he will be fine.

Agree that 10 to’s was good to see. Even better considering that Dallas, who will almost never play, accounted for 3 of them in only six minutes of play. Rest of the team only had 7 to’s.

[AZ Hoosier 6,546]

1 hour ago, steubenhoosier said:

Why not make the negative comment the last one you made instead of leading with it?

Goode was hailed as the answer to last season's shooting woes... clearly 22% shooting is not that.

You'd complain if they hanged you with a brand new rope, wouldn't you?

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44 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

You'd complain if they hanged you with a brand new rope, wouldn't you?

You know, if they're hanging me I'd complain regardless of the newness of the rope. In fact, I'd rather they hang me with an old rope in the hopes that it was worn and breaks.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 83,930]

SIAP    Pat Knight pre-game gesture.

[Golfman25 5,004]

Not sure what conclusions you can come to playing such an undersized opponent.   Tucker looked good.  Would like to see him vs equivalent talent.  Still seem to have some issues on both sides from 3.   We’ll see what we really have come Atlantis time.  

[iu eyedoc 1,849]

13 hours ago, reconmkd said:

Someone well versed in voodoo please undo whatever someone did do to Goode! 

Well when you have to spend all your own time searching under chairs, in your locker, under the scores table for your shots it leaves little time to hone your craft.

[Stuhoo 79,687]

Thoughts after giving the game a more careful look:

Tucker is a very advanced freshman on the offensive end. The body lean and control will minimize turnovers and the stroke is pure and should translate to the 3pt line. His off ball movement is purposeful and high energy. Like Myles he’s a late shot clock shot maker, which is really important to have. Defensively he overplayed help gaps in the first half but was much better in the second. Constantly talking on defense.

Hatton is really fluid, borderline ‘quick’ for his size but is not an intuitive defender and is a lousy passer. So many easy passing looks that he missed.

On second look I liked Jakai’s debut far more. His defensive discipline was really good and he didn’t try to do too much offensively. The circus shot 3pt play was a product of a very tight handle and Jakai leveraging his strength to get to the rim. His wingspan is crazy and no guard is going to move him. His energy level offensively needs to be better. I could see him taking many of Leal and Cupps’ minutes with Gallo and Kanaan as the backup point.

Mack is still getting lost on defense. When Marian shot a bunch of open threes early it was often a Mack breakdown. He’s too good to not play 25+ minutes but he needs a film session.

Mack, Malik, and Ballo are all ‘Woodson bigs’ that can handle the ball beyond what their size should allow. Ballo running the floor could be an instructional video for large big men.

Goode and Cupps are good position defenders but that’s not enough-even Marian players looked to take them when singled up.

Myles Rice is fantastic; intelligent, defensively aware, intuitive, and with a great first step. 

Calbert Cheaney was doing a ton of coaching and instructing.

[HoosierHoopster 6,811]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Thoughts after giving the game a more careful look:

Tucker is a very advanced freshman on the offensive end. The body lean and control will minimize turnovers and the stroke is pure and should translate to the 3pt line. His off ball movement is purposeful and high energy. Like Myles he’s a late shot clock shot maker, which is really important to have. Defensively he overplayed help gaps in the first half but was much better in the second. Constantly talking on defense.

Hatton is really fluid, borderline ‘quick’ for his size but is not an intuitive defender and is a lousy passer. So many easy passing looks that he missed.

On second look I liked Jakai’s debut far more. His defensive discipline was really good and he didn’t try to do too much offensively. The circus shot 3pt play was a product of a very tight handle and Jakai leveraging his strength to get to the rim. His wingspan is crazy and no guard is going to move him. His energy level offensively needs to be better. I could see him taking many of Leal and Cupps’ minutes with Gallo and Kanaan as the backup point.

Mack is still getting lost on defense. When Marian shot a bunch of open threes early it was often a Mack breakdown. He’s too good to not play 25+ minutes but he needs a film session.

Mack, Malik, and Ballo are all ‘Woodson bigs’ that can handle the ball beyond what their size should allow. Ballo running the floor could be an instructional video for large big men.

Goode and Cupps are good position defenders but that’s not enough-even Marian players looked to take them when singled up.

Myles Rice is fantastic; intelligent, defensively aware, intuitive, and with a great first step. 

Calbert Cheaney was doing a ton of coaching and instructing.

I don’t think many realize just how good Jakai is. Can’t wait to see him back at 100%. Encouraging that he’s getting game play this early. Dude can soar, has a nice handle, can be a force on perimeter D. Leal and Cupps minutes? Maybe if his return is a slow path, but he could be a much bigger impact player than that — that’s a dark horse position for a real tourney run imo

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9 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

I don’t think many realize just how good Jakai is. Can’t wait to see him back at 100%. Encouraging that he’s getting game play this early. Dude can soar, has a nice handle, can be a force on perimeter D. Leal and Cupps minutes? Maybe if his return is a slow path, but he could be a much bigger impact player than that — that’s a dark horse position for a real tourney run imo

110% agree. High hopes for him. 

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Stats for players for the Hoosier Hysteria scrimmage plus two exhhibitions.  Obviously IU is going to need better perimeter shooting during the year and hopefully it comes.  Rest of the stats look pretty good.

	MIN	FG	FGA	3PT	3PTA	FT	FTA	F	R	A	ST	BS	TO	PTS
Reneau	66	19	26	1	2	6	8	5	20	9	4	3	6	45
Mgbako	65	13	27	6	16	2	2	4	4	4	1	1	1	34
Ballo	67	14	21	0	0	5	7	4	23	4	4	3	4	33
Rice	65	12	20	1	4	6	8	6	7	11	0	0	5	31
Tucker	38	11	18	0	2	1	2	2	4	3	0	0	0	23
Hatton	33	7	12	0	0	4	4	7	8	4	0	0	1	18
Cupps	45	4	7	1	4	3	3	6	6	0	0	0	0	12
Goode	56	4	23	4	18	0	0	3	11	7	1	0	1	8
Carlyle	46	3	11	1	9	0	0	3	4	4	0	0	2	7
Galloway	10	1	1	1	1	0	0	1	3	2	0	0	1	3
Leal	23	1	4	0	2	0	0	2	5	2	1	1	2	2
Newton	12	1	5	0	1	0	2	0	4	3	0	0	2	2

 

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20 hours ago, steubenhoosier said:

Why not make the negative comment the last one you made instead of leading with it?

Come on now, the three positive comments in a row probably caused him intense pain as it was. If he had waited until the end to say something negative, he may not have had the strength to hit submit. 

[ap2345 7,571]

IU won by 40 and my guy played pretty well for Marian so I’ll take it. That said I do have some concerns about IU moving forward against better teams. 

[HoosierCoop 3,886]

On 11/1/2024 at 9:07 PM, IUHoosier5 said:

Woody says Ballo isn’t in the shape he wants him in yet. Maybe he is the big man whisperer.

I am undecided on Ballo.  He seems a little lazy to me.

Maybe he is saving it all for the season???  I hope so.