(2025) QB - Julian Lewis to Colorado (for now)

[Lebowski]

12 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

USC isn't QB U. Lincoln Riley is the QB coach. USC QBs just happened to get hyped like crazy because they are at USC. Before Caleb Williams, USC hadnt had a QB drafted since Sam Darnold at #3 in 2018. 2016 Cody Kessler was drafted in the 3rd. Matt Barkley was a dud before that in 2013 after being hyped up in college. Mark Sanchez was drafted 5th in 2009 and has probably been the best QB out of USC since Palmer. And between Palmer and Sanchez was John David Booty in 2008, Matt Leinart in 2006, Matt Cassell in 2005. Soooo... Definitely not QB U. More like QB Poo.

Umm....

Source

As of 2023, Alabama and Purdue are tied for first in producing the most number of Super Bowl winning quarterbacks.^[1] As of September 2017, the top five universities in terms of the most NFL quarterback passing yards were 219,064 for Purdue, 183,296 for Notre Dame, 157,855 for USC, 152,627 for Stanford and 142,524 for Washington.^[2]

On November 18, 2012, The Wall Street Journal reported that, "Purdue may be the ultimate Quarterback U. Since the 1970 merger (between the AFL and NFL), quarterbacks from Purdue have started 724 NFL games, easily the most of any major-conference program." After Purdue QBs' 724 NFL games, the next best schools were the University of Washington (623 starts), Miami (573), University of Southern California (547) and Notre Dame (543).^[3]

[Stuhoo]

39 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

USC isn't QB U. Lincoln Riley is the QB coach. USC QBs just happened to get hyped like crazy because they are at USC. Before Caleb Williams, USC hadnt had a QB drafted since Sam Darnold at #3 in 2018. 2016 Cody Kessler was drafted in the 3rd. Matt Barkley was a dud before that in 2013 after being hyped up in college. Mark Sanchez was drafted 5th in 2009 and has probably been the best QB out of USC since Palmer. And between Palmer and Sanchez was John David Booty in 2008, Matt Leinart in 2006, Matt Cassell in 2005. Soooo... Definitely not QB U. More like QB Poo.

 

Talking about a crappy job of disparaging USC! lol

In your post you named NINE USC quarterbacks that had multi-year NFL careers in the last 20 years.

Whereas for the same time period, collectively between IUFB and everywhere Cig has been head coach over that time period, I will now list every IU or Cignetti QB that took at least one snap as an NFL quarterback. Ready for the entire list?

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 Sudfeld

[Hovadipo]

11 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Whereas for the same time period, collectively between IUFB and everywhere Cig has been head coach over that time period, I will now list every IU or Cignetti QB that took at least one snap as an NFL quarterback. Ready for the entire list?

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 Sudfeld

Well, this Ben DiNucci erasure will absolutely not stand.

[Stuhoo]

36 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Well, this Ben DiNucci erasure will absolutely not stand.

Just might be your best post evahhhhhh.

I stand corrected; Di-nooch? You da man.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

17 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Talking about a crappy job of disparaging USC! lol

In your post you named NINE USC quarterbacks that had multi-year NFL careers in the last 20 years.

Whereas for the same time period, collectively between IUFB and everywhere Cig has been head coach over that time period, I will now list every IU or Cignetti QB that took at least one snap as an NFL quarterback. Ready for the entire list?

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 Sudfeld

Yea, Indiana sucks. I'm not really sure that's a good comparison. Those USC QBs were all bust or just bad and never lived to the hype. Lincoln Riley is the QB man. USC is over hyped poop.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

42 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Umm....

Source

As of 2023, Alabama and Purdue are tied for first in producing the most number of Super Bowl winning quarterbacks.^[1] As of September 2017, the top five universities in terms of the most NFL quarterback passing yards were 219,064 for Purdue, 183,296 for Notre Dame, 157,855 for USC, 152,627 for Stanford and 142,524 for Washington.^[2]

On November 18, 2012, The Wall Street Journal reported that, "Purdue may be the ultimate Quarterback U. Since the 1970 merger (between the AFL and NFL), quarterbacks from Purdue have started 724 NFL games, easily the most of any major-conference program." After Purdue QBs' 724 NFL games, the next best schools were the University of Washington (623 starts), Miami (573), University of Southern California (547) and Notre Dame (543).^[3]

That's cool. Players don't care what happened before they were alive. What USC did before Lewis was alive means nothing. USC QBs have been bad since Palmer. That's actually be a positive for Indiana. It's hard to recruit against Riley and QBs though.

[OGIUAndy]

1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

That's cool. Players don't care what happened before they were alive. What USC did before Lewis was alive means nothing. USC QBs have been bad since Palmer. That's actually be a positive for Indiana. It's hard to recruit against Riley and QBs though.

Caleb? 

[Lebowski]

1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

That's cool. Players don't care what happened before they were alive. What USC did before Lewis was alive means nothing. USC QBs have been bad since Palmer. That's actually be a positive for Indiana. It's hard to recruit against Riley and QBs though.

Players do care about the history of a program and someone's or something's resume. There's a reason why Coach Riley is at USC and  I don't think it's because of his special teams skills. People in general care about the history of fill in the blank. For example, I typically care about a potential place of employment's history and consider that when 'accepting' a job from them. USC and Coach Riley went through an interview process and I'm certain both knew each other's history. 

[Stuhoo]

2 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

That's cool. Players don't care what happened before they were alive. What USC did before Lewis was alive means nothing. USC QBs have been bad since Palmer. That's actually be a positive for Indiana. It's hard to recruit against Riley and QBs though.

C'mon LCS; we're all rooting for IU to prevail here, but the extended history of USC quarterbacks has been laid out (at first by you). That is coupled with the current USC staff putting the #1 pick into the last NFL draft.

That's about as good as it gets.

[go iu bb]

If I was a great HS QB from Georgia and my choices were between IU and USC, I'd pick USC. I hope Lewis doesn't agree with me and ends up at IU, but if he goes to USC I can't blame him.

I will say that since we're having this conversation, a lot of perception about IU has changed in a short amount of time. Just being named as having a legitimate chance to flip him from USC is huge. I hope CCC can capitalize on it. I think he can. 

[J34]

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

If I has a great HS QB from Georgia and my choices were between IU and USC, I'd pick USC. I hope Lewis doesn't agree with me and ends up at IU, but if he goes to USC I can't blame him.

I will say that since we're having this conversation, a lot of perception about IU has changed in a short amount of time. Just being named as having a legitimate chance to flip him from USC is huge. I hope CCC can capitalize on it. I think he can. 

100%

[AH1971]

Had an SC buddy (and alum) text our group "IU has reportedly offered $2mil and a guarantee starting spot for Lewis" in the last week. No clue on the veracity of the source and I'm not sure he knows either. Doesn't seem like that jives with anything Cignetti has displayed so far but that seems to be the rumor SC fans are running with. SC has lost several commits this recruiting cycle citing lack of NIL funds. 

[Artie86]

10 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Had an SC buddy (and alum) text our group "IU has reportedly offered $2mil and a guarantee starting spot for Lewis" in the last week. No clue on the veracity of the source and I'm not sure he knows either. Doesn't seem like that jives with anything Cignetti has displayed so far but that seems to be the rumor SC fans are running with. SC has lost several commits this recruiting cycle citing lack of NIL funds. 

It wouldn't surprise/shock me if IU offered Julian $2M,.... I can't imagine the words, "...guaranteed starting spot for you!" ever coming out of Coach Cignetti's mouth, though.

[J34]

Will Lewis at 6'1 and a freshman, be that much better than Jackson or Cherry next year. I believe he also dropped in his rankings from last year. Would he be worth spending $2 million dollars on? I don't know the answer, but someone with a little more insight might. 

[Hovadipo]

11 minutes ago, J34 said:

Will Lewis at 6'1 and a freshman, be that much better than Jackson or Cherry next year. I believe he also dropped in his rankings from last year. Would he be worth spending $2 million dollars on? I don't know the answer, but someone with a little more insight might. 

The street cred gained from getting a 4/5 star QB out of Georgia and away from USC would be well worth $2million alone tbh. If he lives up to his ranking then you’re really cooking. 

[cthomas]

1 hour ago, Artie86 said:

It wouldn't surprise/shock me if IU offered Julian $2M,.... I can't imagine the words, "...guaranteed starting spot for you!" ever coming out of Coach Cignetti's mouth, though.

CCC would lose all of his credibility if he promised a starting position to anyone. He has been all about competition for positions.

[Josh]

1 hour ago, J34 said:

Will Lewis at 6'1 and a freshman, be that much better than Jackson or Cherry next year. I believe he also dropped in his rankings from last year. Would he be worth spending $2 million dollars on? I don't know the answer, but someone with a little more insight might. 

I don't know if he's better, I really have no idea.  Is he worth $2 million?  That's up to the person spending the money.  I could easily see a mega millionaire deciding it was worth it to his portfolio.

[J34]

If we're going to pay a freshman a couple million dollars, why don't we just throw Arch whatever it takes to get him here and a guaranteed starting job. I believe I read where he's making 2.8m. Speaking of making a splash. One can dream 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

On 9/12/2024 at 1:36 PM, Stuhoo said:

C'mon LCS; we're all rooting for IU to prevail here, but the extended history of USC quarterbacks has been laid out (at first by you). That is coupled with the current USC staff putting the #1 pick into the last NFL draft.

That's about as good as it gets.

Yea the history of USC putting QBs in the NFL in Lewis's lifetime isn't some great achievement by USC. It's easy to send dudes to the NFL to flame out, ask Ohio State. The best argument for USC is Riley, not USC. Riley doesn't need USC to be a QBs coach. But USC is going to need Riley to develop better QB talent.

[Artie86]

Anyone else watching Julian Lewis on ESPN right now? Friday night under the lights vs. A. H. Parker HS out of Alabama. Seems to be a good game so far at halftime…