Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Unexpectedflash]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

The bar isn’t getting high major players.  The bar is getting a team that has a chance to win at the top.  Fru is entry level for that.  If I went through 5’s I want or made a list of best 5’s FRU isn’t high on that list.  

The unfortunate truth is the bar is probably coming in 6th in the big ten and hopefully building from there. Dusty wins the big ten his first year and then boom he brings in the number 1 transfer class in the country. We were just mid. I do think our roster next year should be more talented because honestly it would be hard not to. And i like Fru as a backup which he seems open to per Louisville fans. I’m not sure he’d hold up as a starter the entire big ten year

[WayneFleekHoosier]

10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Fru is a high major player with a 76.5 efg %.

He is also 6’11”, bouncy, and started for a top 25-ish team.

Holy hell; if that doesn’t fit the high major big description I’m not sure what does.

 

The board will do what it did last season. As I stated all along the level of talent needed. Everyone will “like” the positive optimistic posts.  And we’ll be back in the same boat.  He played 22 mins a game for a team that sputtered down the stretch.  His playing time was lessening in the games that mattered most.  Not a good free throw shooter.  Pretty much a dunker. 5 shots a game.  Described as soft by the fanbase that watched him all year.  This is a backup on a good/great team.  Not your starter/high minutes guy. 

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

The board will do what it did last season. As I stated all along the level of talent needed. Everyone will “like” the positive optimistic posts.  And we’ll be back in the same boat.  He played 22 mins a game for a team that sputtered down the stretch.  His playing time was lessening in the games that mattered most.  Not a good free throw shooter.  Pretty much a dunker. 5 shots a game.  Described as soft by the fanbase that watched him all year.  This is a backup on a good/great team.  Not your starter/high minutes guy. 

If he comes he is a piece; not the whole puzzle. If CDD can’t coach up talented players into a hungry, cohesive group it’s all a moot point anyway.

[AH1971]

11 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

The bar isn’t getting high major players.  The bar is getting a team that has a chance to win at the top.  Fru is entry level for that.  If I went through 5’s I want or made a list of best 5’s FRU isn’t high on that list.  

Fru was the starting 5 on a team that was ranked throughout the duration of the year. What the hell are you talking about? You’ve b***** for 3 months about getting bigger and longer positionally, if 6’11 250 doesn’t cut it, what will?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

If he comes he is a piece; not the whole puzzle. If CDD can’t coach up talented players into a hungry, cohesive group it’s all a moot point anyway.

 

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

If he comes he is a piece; not the whole puzzle. If CDD can’t coach up talented players into a hungry, cohesive group it’s all a moot point anyway.

I’m not convinced he can do much.  Infuse talent and mediocre coaches rise up a bit.  Certain talent goes beyond coaching.  We need that.  
 

as far as a piece?  Sure.  I don’t need 13 guys.  I want 8-10.  Fru as a backup big is reasonable.  Fru as a starter, 30 minute guy is a prayer. 

[AH1971]

12 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

The board will do what it did last season. As I stated all along the level of talent needed. Everyone will “like” the positive optimistic posts.  And we’ll be back in the same boat.  He played 22 mins a game for a team that sputtered down the stretch.  His playing time was lessening in the games that mattered most.  Not a good free throw shooter.  Pretty much a dunker. 5 shots a game.  Described as soft by the fanbase that watched him all year.  This is a backup on a good/great team.  Not your starter/high minutes guy. 

They sputtered because their lottery projected PG got hurt lol, not because Fru was their starting 5. Stop being obtuse.

[HinnyHoosier]

26 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

We are aiming to be the highest paid bubble team again. Lol.  Whatever, I guess, I’m slowly but surely losing my excitement for our basketball team.  Gonna get a bunch of mid players again.  We’ve already learned we aren’t gonna coach them up, so we need some juice and splash.  This board and IU media will keep the dream alive.  Rinse and repeat.  While other serious programs build serious rosters.  Then we are all surprised when those rosters excel and we don’t.  

Wayne...I'd like to offer you a hug. May I give you a hug?

[AH1971]

Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

 

I’m not convinced he can do much.  Infuse talent and mediocre coaches rise up a bit.  Certain talent goes beyond coaching.  We need that.  
 

as far as a piece?  Sure.  I don’t need 13 guys.  I want 8-10.  Fru as a backup big is reasonable.  Fru as a starter, 30 minute guy is a prayer. 

He’s a 25 mpg guy max. He rebounds and dunks the ball. What more do you want out of your 5?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Fru was the starting 5 on a team that was ranked throughout the duration of the year. What the hell are you talking about? You’ve b***** for 3 months about getting bigger and longer positionally, if 6’11 250 doesn’t cut it, what will?

His minutes were declining.  He played 22 minutes.  Big and long.  But not tough.  Not skilled.  He’s a 6’11” JAG.  60 percent free throw shooter.  
 

I’ll take him over Bailey, but 1 and 5 are ultimate positions of need.  I’d rather have a shot blocking/rebounding freak of nature if we can find one. 

[OGIUAndy]

Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

His minutes were declining.  He played 22 minutes.  Big and long.  But not tough.  Not skilled.  He’s a 6’11” JAG.  60 percent free throw shooter.  
 

I’ll take him over Bailey, but 1 and 5 are ultimate positions of need.  I’d rather have a shot blocking/rebounding freak of nature if we can find one. 

So we've signed guys already that I am not aware of? 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

They sputtered because their lottery projected PG got hurt lol, not because Fru was their starting 5. Stop being obtuse.

I’ve been about the only one right about roster makeup for years.  Stop the name calling.  He’s not good enough for me.  If he’s good enough for you, kudos.  I’m sure we’ll get to experience the ride together.  

[WayneFleekHoosier]

7 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

Wayne...I'd like to offer you a hug. May I give you a hug?

Lol.  I’ll pass.  Thanks for the offer.  A strong competent roster and coach would do the trick though. 

[HoosierHoopster]

34 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

We are aiming to be the highest paid bubble team again. Lol.  Whatever, I guess, I’m slowly but surely losing my excitement for our basketball team.  Gonna get a bunch of mid players again.  We’ve already learned we aren’t gonna coach them up, so we need some juice and splash.  This board and IU media will keep the dream alive.  Rinse and repeat.  While other serious programs build serious rosters.  Then we are all surprised when those rosters excel and we don’t.  

You’re quickly losing whatever remaining excitement you have if any, my perception. No one has committed, we don’t know 1 let alone 5 or more portal players, other than the decent frosh. Bunch of mid players? Aren’t going to coach them up? Man, why follow IU ball if you just drag the dark cloud around you every day and before you actually know anything? DeVries has had 1 season starting late with no players and no staff. No idea yet who’s going to suit up as starters next season but that’s kind of the point. We do know we have Carr now. Let’s see what he and the rest of the staff actually do before throwing in the towel. 

[AH1971]

7 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

His minutes were declining.  He played 22 minutes.  Big and long.  But not tough.  Not skilled.  He’s a 6’11” JAG.  60 percent free throw shooter.  
 

I’ll take him over Bailey, but 1 and 5 are ultimate positions of need.  I’d rather have a shot blocking/rebounding freak of nature if we can find one. 

Not tough per who? Louisville fans as he’s transferring out? Ok. Had the highest BPM on a top 20 team, good rebounder with a superb block rate. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

9 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

He’s a 25 mpg guy max. He rebounds and dunks the ball. What more do you want out of your 5?

Something that separates and affects winning.  Extreme athleticism/size preferably.  So if we are prioritizing size, one that blocks and rebounds at exception rates.  Effects shots.  Not a FT shooting liability.  
 

Better than what we had, I’ll grant that.  Maybe…. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Not tough per who? Louisville fans as he’s transferring out? Ok. Had the highest BPM on a top 20 team, good rebounder with a superb block rate. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Lol.  Ok. 

[AH1971]

8 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I’ve been about the only one right about roster makeup for years.  Stop the name calling.  He’s not good enough for me.  If he’s good enough for you, kudos.  I’m sure we’ll get to experience the ride together.  

Such a Nostradamus for projecting a team full of mid-major players thrown together in a 2 week period was going to struggle to make the tournament. You and every other pundit who picked IU to finish mid-pack in conference. Really went out on a limb there.
 

He’s a massive upgrade positionally from last year. Improving the talent level at each position pushes IU from a bubble team on the outside looking in to a potential 6-8 seed next year which is marked improvement. If you’re expecting the 92 Dream Team, I can’t help you.

[str8baller]

42 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Holy hell; if that doesn’t fit the high major big description I’m not sure what does.

3/4 FF teams have back to the basket bigs. Some step out and do more, but most of have one, or more, players who can post up and get you a bucket 1 on 1 in the paint.  There’s nothing special about a big who can’t.

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, str8baller said:

3/4 FF teams have back to the basket bigs. Some step out and do more, but most of have one, or more, players who can post up and get you a bucket 1 on 1 in the paint.  There’s nothing special about a big who can’t.

I’m not sure what you’re saying or suggesting? Fru shot 75% from the field last year. He’s as close to automatic as it gets around the basket.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Such a Nostradamus for projecting a team full of mid-major players thrown together in a 2 week period was going to struggle to make the tournament. You and every other pundit who picked IU to finish mid-pack in conference. Really went out on a limb there.
 

He’s a massive upgrade positionally from last year. Improving the talent level at each position pushes IU from a bubble team on the outside looking in to a potential 6-8 seed next year which is marked improvement. If you’re expecting the 92 Dream Team, I can’t help you.

 

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Such a Nostradamus for projecting a team full of mid-major players thrown together in a 2 week period was going to struggle to make the tournament. You and every other pundit who picked IU to finish mid-pack in conference. Really went out on a limb there.
 

He’s a massive upgrade positionally from last year. Improving the talent level at each position pushes IU from a bubble team on the outside looking in to a potential 6-8 seed next year which is marked improvement. If you’re expecting the 92 Dream Team, I can’t help you.

I called it for what is was in real time. This board did not agree in general.  Especially as it came together.  I got pushback all off-season that I was wrong.  Whatever.  My track record has been good.  
 

We don’t need to be the dream team but setting the standard of being slightly better than last year and hopefully being a 6 or 8 seed is a losing strategy.  It’s basically what we did this year.  Build a bubble team, then be shocked when on the bubble.  
 

Also with how Alexis played to end the year, I’m not convinced Fru is much better either to be honest.  So the obvious upgrade isn’t as clear it as you might think.