Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

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[IUFAN1976]

18 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

I don't care about defense anymore. I want to outscore teams next year 120 - 115 every game.

Give me the old Dan Issel, Kiki Vandeweghe, Alex English type of IU team next year. We'll load up on scorers from the portal and just outshoot them and out-tempo them next year. 

A complete opposite team...LOL

That sounds like a Crean coached team

[HoosierHoopster]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

And who , pray tell, is going to guard the five? Certainly not Malik Reneau.

Don’t need it. Seriously, this is just outdated thinking. Run an athletic running, shooting team with length, what exactly did our rim protecting D produce this year, pray tell?

[HoosierHoopster]

57 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Imagine our defense without Ware last year.

Ware was outstanding, but imagine our D with length and speed. Our D wasn’t good this year, our D under Woodson continues to drop 

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Don’t need it. Seriously, this is just outdated thinking. Run an athletic running, shooting team with length, what exactly did our rim protecting D produce this year, pray tell?

A team that is athletic and running will never feature Malik Reneau.

And yet next season we again will feature Malik Reneau.

[IUFAN1976]

1 hour ago, JF87 said:

I'm waiting on some Purdue players to hit the portal.  I'd take Gillis and Caleb Furst.  

Gillis yes, but not Furst, he seems slower than MR and isn’t shot blocker 

[IUFAN1976]

1 hour ago, trc1969 said:

I beleive in the end this is going to be a fruitless endeavor. Trying to build a team out of the portal is a daunting task, bringing in a couple portal transfers a year to help aid your team from the previous year is one thing but trying to construct pretty much a whole team is another. Plus, I have lost all faith in Coach Woodson's ability to coach a team play college basketball effectively. (Can't wait to hear the excuses he come up with after losses next year)

I think we have 7 open scholarships, he could still land a couple high school recruits and then fill the last 5 spots with portal players, that would be doable

[HoosierHoopster]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

A team that is athletic and running will never feature Malik Reneau.

And yet next season we again will feature Malik Reneau.

But does it have too? You’re saying just run the same failed 2 post player play that’s a failed time warp experiment. The bigger issue there is there’s no way Bako doesn’t start with Malik and Bako hasn’t turned into a wing, bring in another “rim protector” and it’s the same look as this year and that’s a guaranteed failure.

Do we want to get better - change through the portal, or stay the same?

[go iu bb]

4 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

But does it have too? You’re saying just run the same failed 2 post player play that’s a failed time warp experiment. The bigger issue there is there’s no way Bako doesn’t start with Malik and Bako hasn’t turned into a wing, bring in another “rim protector” and it’s the same look as this year and that’s a guaranteed failure.

Do we want to get better - change through the portal, or stay the same?

I get what you're saying but do you actually think that Woodson will change?

[Stuhoo]

4 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

But does it have too? You’re saying just run the same failed 2 post player play that’s a failed time warp experiment. The bigger issue there is there’s no way Bako doesn’t start with Malik and Bako hasn’t turned into a wing, bring in another “rim protector” and it’s the same look as this year and that’s a guaranteed failure.

Do we want to get better - change through the portal, or stay the same?

My guess? We will stay the same, but with better guards.

[HoosierHoopster]

Just now, go iu bb said:

I get what you're saying but do you actually think that Woodson will change?

No

:(

[HoosierHoopster]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

My guess? We will stay the same, but with better guards.

Yeah That’s how I see it too — my post is what I would like to see, not what I think grampa Woodson will do….

[steubenhoosier]

Don’t usually have any information way up here but was talking to someone today who knows both families. Luke Goode already has his degree from Illinois and is good friends with Furst. Story is that they are both going to finish their careers playing for Shrewsbury at ND

[Home Jersey]

48 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

 

 

No clue how likely it is, but I would love to land him.

Based on how he plays at Assembly Hall against us, he could lead the nation in scoring if he comes here for home games lol. 

[RaceToTheTop]

35 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

A team that is athletic and running will never feature Malik Reneau.

And yet next season we again will feature Malik Reneau.

Not to get too off track, but Reneau's stats compared to another player -- other player was two inches taller than Reneau but he played on an up tempo team and was VERY featured his junior and senior year and no one would have raved about his athleticism:

Reneau:  MPG:  28.7  PTS 15.4 REB 6.0 AST 2.7 FG%:  56  3PT FG:  33  FT: 68  ST:  0.5  BS:  0.6  TO:  2.8  F:  3.1

Player B:  MPG:  23.7  PTS 13.1 REB:  4.5  AST: 1.1  FG%:  53%  3PT FG:  29%  FT: 80  ST:  0.3 BS:  0.5  TO: 1.3  F:  2.3

Not saying that Reneau is player B at all, but player B I believe ended up as a Big Ten Conference POY and played in the NBA.  I just think that putting a player into a certain category ("athletic" or "non-athletic") eliminates the things that they do well.  A good coach maximizes what his players do to make the team complete.  Whether you have any reason to believe that will be done is a different matter (and a different thread) but I think almost every coach would want to have the option of having a 15 point scorer back who was only a sophomore and did it without taking a bulk number of shots.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Trevor Andershock @INBBallSource

Indiana has an early focus on point guards this transfer portal season, and UT-Martin's Jordan Sears is one of the main ones.

 

39% on 3s for his 2 seasons at UT Martin. 

https://utmsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/jordan-sears/4764

[Rico]

1 hour ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

 

 

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Anthony Perkins?  Hard pass.

 

[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Trevor Andershock @INBBallSource

Indiana has an early focus on point guards this transfer portal season, and UT-Martin's Jordan Sears is one of the main ones.

 

39% on 3s for his 2 seasons at UT Martin. 

https://utmsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/jordan-sears/4764

A very well-informed poster has told me that Sears is a fantastic get for any P5 team.

Based on what he believes, Sears could truly change our season.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Joe Tipton -

Pepperdine transfer G/F Michael Ajayi has committed to Gonzaga, per his IG.

[IUFAN1976]

24 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Not to get too off track, but Reneau's stats compared to another player -- other player was two inches taller than Reneau but he played on an up tempo team and was VERY featured his junior and senior year and no one would have raved about his athleticism:

Reneau:  MPG:  28.7  PTS 15.4 REB 6.0 AST 2.7 FG%:  56  3PT FG:  33  FT: 68  ST:  0.5  BS:  0.6  TO:  2.8  F:  3.1

Player B:  MPG:  23.7  PTS 13.1 REB:  4.5  AST: 1.1  FG%:  53%  3PT FG:  29%  FT: 80  ST:  0.3 BS:  0.5  TO: 1.3  F:  2.3

Not saying that Reneau is player B at all, but player B I believe ended up as a Big Ten Conference POY and played in the NBA.  I just think that putting a player into a certain category ("athletic" or "non-athletic") eliminates the things that they do well.  A good coach maximizes what his players do to make the team complete.  Whether you have any reason to believe that will be done is a different matter (and a different thread) but I think almost every coach would want to have the option of having a 15 point scorer back who was only a sophomore and did it without taking a bulk number of shots.

Besides Woodson force feeding the post and Reneau forcing shots up with 3 people surrounding him, do you honestly think Woodson can and will utilize Reneau to put him in a position to be a successful overall contributor other than just scoring.  We need him to be more of a rim protector,  rebounder, rim runner and passer.  IMO, Reneau hasn't showed much of that overall game and I have 0 confidence that Woodson can coach him up to get him to improve in all of those categories