Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[ISP 939]

Conwell was heavily recruited by Schertz prior to going south. Him transferring to ISU was more him recruiting himself back there than Schertz talking him into coming after his freshman season. 

[Trish 11,866]

47 minutes ago, Jam said:

Thought it was Kay nun

You're wrong. It's Ken Nunn! 

[Go_Hoosiers 191]

2 minutes ago, Trish said:

You're wrong. It's Ken Nunn! 

Huge NIL opportunity for Carlyle. Injured in an accident? Call Kanaan

[Trish 11,866]

For anyone interested. Here's the stats from the IU team this year. The colored numbers are the percent ranking among D1's.

 

 

[HoosierFan1994 4,778]

1 hour ago, Hardwood83 said:

This is EXACTLY my thought, so it must be right! 

I am not excited about Carlyle, because I think paired with Rice it will be, at absolute best, an average 3p shooting backcourt. Realistically below average. With Trey likely your 6th man, it's shaping up to be a worse shooting team than last year.  

Conwell > Carlyle and pretty unlikely we get both. 

To Be fair I do think they both will improve. Technically they are only sophomores. But still need shooters. 

[dwtaylor1055 1,560]

@HoosierDave posted this below on HSN.  Apparently, he is a journalist for Arizona. 

[steubenhoosier 1,101]

Per the NCAA website, only 3 freshman were in the top 100 in regards to 3 point shooting percentage this past season. Sheppard was #1 at over 52%. The other 2 guys were ranked in the 80’s at around 35%. Neither of them were on P5 teams.

[Trish 11,866]

2 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

someone posted this below on HSN.  Apparently, he is a journalist for Arizona 

Would be an appealing portal class that will smooth over a lot of the fan base. However, I really don't like the fit. 

 

[Feathery 4,005]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I absolutely agree we need better 3-point shooting.  But, if we have some guards that can penetrate and get buckets or dish off for easy assists plus a strong offensive rebounder we don't have to be as reliant on the 3-point shot.  And that's in no way saying we don't need to be far better at it but that our offensive arsenal is much improved with significant upgrades in guard play and offensive rebounding.

The other part that can help compensate for lack of 3 point shooting by getting to the rim, is also making free throws. I felt part of IU’s issues were the guards couldn’t finish well at the rim and would miss free throws. Causing empty possessions. Rice is over 80% and Carlyle is over 77% at the FT line. Typically it’s said that good FT shooting translates into better 3 pt fg%. So I’m hopeful both Rice and Carlyle have jumps into the 34-36% 3pt shooting range. Add in an ascending Mgbako and IU will be fine with shooters. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,500]

12 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Per the NCAA website, only 3 freshman were in the top 100 in regards to 3 point shooting percentage this past season. Sheppard was #1 at over 52%. The other 2 guys were ranked in the 80’s at around 35%. Neither of them were on P5 teams.

and MM shot 38% in conference play on 5 attempts a game... 

If you take out his first 6 games (there was CLEARLY a learning curve/adjustment period going on there)--- he shot over 36% from 3 on 5 attempts a game. 

MM could also stand to keep himself out of foul trouble, keep himself on the floor consistently and hopefully, he can avg 6+ 3s a game, easy, because I think he is going to shoot 37%+

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,500]

Just now, Feathery said:

The other part that can help compensate for lack of 3 point shooting by getting to the rim, is also making free throws. I felt part of IU’s issues were the guards couldn’t finish well at the rim and would miss free throws. Causing empty possessions. Rice is over 80% and Carlyle is over 77% at the FT line. Typically it’s said that good FT shooting translates into better 3 pt fg%. So I’m hopeful both Rice and Carlyle have jumps into the 34-36% 3pt shooting range. Add in an ascending Mgbako and IU will be fine with shooters. 

Rice and KC also get to the line at a good rate. Both shot 4 FTs per game. As a reference-- TG only shot 2.4. 

[bird4par 287]

28 minutes ago, Trish said:

You're wrong. It's Ken Nunn! 

He does love IU basketball. Or he used to anyway from what I remember from the banners on the sideline ads. 

[Hardwood83 4,775]

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

I'm not trying to be facetious... 

Ryan Conwell--- FR season-- .92PPP on Spot up opps-- 50th percentile... shot 30% from 3. 

That's not good and against AAC competition 

 

35 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Per the NCAA website, only 3 freshman were in the top 100 in regards to 3 point shooting percentage this past season. Sheppard was #1 at over 52%. The other 2 guys were ranked in the 80’s at around 35%. Neither of them were on P5 teams.

Good points and reaasonable arguments. But nothing says IU has to get someone coming off his Freshman year either. I wouldn't have liked Conwell last year, most likely. Was that "wrong"? No, he had something to prove, not me. Fortunately he did and now I want him! 

One of the advantages of the portal is you can look at proven college results. I won't beat it to death, there are valid points either way, but my strong preference would be to bring in someone that has demonstrated a skill rather than the potential to achieve it. Carlyle has some existing strengths and possibly could get better in other areas, I don't think that is the right fit for what IU needs. We'll see what happens. 

[68Hoosier 657]

24 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Rice and KC also get to the line at a good rate. Both shot 4 FTs per game. As a reference-- TG only shot 2.4. 

AS long as they make them LOL.  I have never seen an IU team as bad as we have been at FT's the past 2 or 3 years.  

[AH1971 1,665]

12 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

 

Good points and reaasonable arguments. But nothing says IU has to get someone coming off his Freshman year either. I wouldn't have liked Conwell last year, most likely. Was that "wrong"? No, he had something to prove, not me. Fortunately he did and now I want him! 

One of the advantages of the portal is you can look at proven college results. I won't beat it to death, there are valid points either way, but my strong preference would be to bring in someone that has demonstrated a skill rather than the potential to achieve it. Carlyle has some existing strengths and possibly could get better in other areas, I don't think that is the right fit for what IU needs. We'll see what happens. 

IU is still looking at proven 3 point shooters in Humrichous and Hickman. But even as respectable shooters, neither of them have the overall games as Rice.... and Carlyle looked pretty good despite having to sit out the first month and a half of the season. The upside of Rice and Carlyle are extrememly high, and Rice was a pretty damn good proven player as a first year guy. 

[RaceToTheTop 26,763]

Not to be that guy, but if Rice and Carlyle WERE to commit to IU, could see Cupps enter the portal.  Would make sense for him to considering Rice and Carlyle each have the potential of being at IU for three more years + Galloway coming back this year.

[RaceToTheTop 26,763]

12 minutes ago, 68Hoosier said:

AS long as they make them LOL.  I have never seen an IU team as bad as we have been at FT's the past 2 or 3 years.  

They shot 78 and 81% from the line last year, so that's a positive.  Ballo, though, is a horrible free throw shooter.  He would counted on for other things.

[68Hoosier 657]

2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Not to be that guy, but if Rice and Carlyle WERE to commit to IU, could see Cupps enter the portal.  Would make sense for him to considering Rice and Carlyle each have the potential of being at IU for three more years + Galloway coming back this year.

I would hope he would see it as a way to get better and not to run away.  Coaches' kids typically want to push themselves.  

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,500]

3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Not to be that guy, but if Rice and Carlyle WERE to commit to IU, could see Cupps enter the portal.  Would make sense for him to considering Rice and Carlyle each have the potential of being at IU for three more years + Galloway coming back this year.

Wouldn't bother me at all. 

[68Hoosier 657]

1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

They shot 78 and 81% from the line last year, so that's a positive.  Ballo, though, is a horrible free throw shooter.  He would counted on for other things.

So, what you're saying is Ballo is a done deal to IU then.   LOL