Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[AKHoosier 6,748]

16 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I believe that Trilly Donovan might have been the one that mentioned it, but the downside is that if the money donated doesn't pan out to winning on the court, some donors are now asking for input into the recruiting process.

I've always wondered about this.

If I was a multimillionaire being asked to give to NIL, no way would I not want to decide who the money goes to.

But that's just me.

[RaceToTheTop 25,031]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm surprised that Hickman would want to compete with Carlyle and Galloway so I don't think Conwell will want to compete with Hickman, Carlyle and Galloway

Hickman might have some self awareness -- he's a good college player but not an NBA player.  Some guys chase the dream being G league fodder for years on a $40K to $50K salary not realizing that being a good college player isn't always relevant to what the NBA wants.  Others chase their dreams overseas for years.

The draw for a kid like Hickman of playing in his hometown, getting paid really nicely to do so, and knowing that a backcourt foursome of Rice-Carlyle-Galloway-Hickman is a really solid college backcourt and should lead to wins could be very appealing.  I don't begrudge players getting paid even if they play less minutes.

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8 minutes ago, Demo said:

You’re currently on 5 scholarship guards. I just can’t imagine that Carlyle/Conwell/Hickman isn’t a 1 of situation. Some systems would justify 7 guards. What Woody’s doing with Mgbako on the wing and Tucker getting wing minutes  doesn’t.

I think the way things stand now/along with who we've contacted--- it seems like they expect MM to play a fair amount of 4. 

I think you can add 2 of the 3. Leal and Cupps shouldn't be looked at as "in the rotation", IMO, anyways. They are great 9th-11th guys ish, IMO. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,093]

21 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I believe that Trilly Donovan might have been the one that mentioned it, but the downside is that if the money donated doesn't pan out to winning on the court, some donors are now asking for input into the recruiting process.

That would be the inevitable next step and could end up pushing more long term veteran coaches out of the business.

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3 minutes ago, btownqb said:

I think the way things stand now/along with who we've contacted--- it seems like they expect MM to play a fair amount of 4. 

I think you can add 2 of the 3. Leal and Cupps shouldn't be looked at as "in the rotation", IMO, anyways. They are great 9th-11th guys ish, IMO. 

Yeah I would agree. If you get Ballo, Payne and Williams are off the table in my opinion. You could possibly take the NAIA kid for an insurance policy, but Reneau and Ballo playing a bulk of the minutes at the 5 allows you to slide Mgbako to the 4 and play a heavy 3 guard lineup. And unless they do add someone like Humrichous I would expect Mgbako to get his fair share of minutes at the 4.

[Demo 19,679]

1 minute ago, btownqb said:

I think the way things stand now/along with who we've contacted--- it seems like they expect MM to play a fair amount of 4. 

I think you can add 2 of the 3. Leal and Cupps shouldn't be looked at as "in the rotation", IMO, anyways. They are great 9th-11th guys ish, IMO. 

If they plan to do that with Mgbako, then there’s probably an argument there. And what the roster looks like when they get to maybe 11 filled scholarships will probably tip that off. Maybe it’s just because Woody was so hellbent on not matching up that way last year, I just have trouble seeing it.

[Bowhunter 2,693]

Why not  one of the Uk transfers or recruits? If we have the money, let’s get shooters and athletic bigs.

[OKHOOSIER 1,984]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm hearing that Hickman's NIL offer was much bigger than he expected. The deal is not done yet since he is at Cincy today, but things look good. 

Would it be with the understanding hed be off the bench? 

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5 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

That would be the inevitable next step and could end up pushing more long term veteran coaches out of the business.

And likely some fans too. An NCAA pro league isn't that interesting to me either. Add Profit sharing, contracts and collective bargaining and I am gonna fade away as a fan just like I did from the NBA 15 yrs ago.   

Back to the transfer portal, I am hoping for a class of Rice, Conwell, Ballo, Malone, Humrichous and maybe Hickman. Not sure how realistic that is, but seems to fill all the needs. 

 

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1 minute ago, Bowhunter said:

Why not  one of the Uk transfers or recruits? If we have the money, let’s get shooters and athletic bigs.

Their incoming freshman are currently on their new NIL tours.  Bradshaw is thought to be a North Carolina lean which in part IMO is Ballo being thought of being an IU lean.

The 7'2" Crotation big man from Kentucky is intriguing but he is going to be meeting with Mark Pope before decided if he wants to go back to Kentucky or stay in the portal.

[RaceToTheTop 25,031]

y'all are thinking about it wrong asking who would start.  Next year we don't put anyone on the court at the beginning of the game and then sub in after the first basket.  Boom, everyone eligibile for sixth man of the year and we have the best bench in the Big Ten.

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1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Their incoming freshman are currently on their new NIL tours.  Bradshaw is thought to be a North Carolina lean which in part IMO is Ballo being thought of being an IU lean.

The 7'2" Crotation big man from Kentucky is intriguing but he is going to be meeting with Mark Pope before decided if he wants to go back to Kentucky or stay in the portal.

Ivisic should absolutely stay. That’s a great system fit for him.

[Chris007 43,567]

2 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Would it be with the understanding hed be off the bench? 

I don't think so. I think SG is up for grabs and whoever plays the best will get the start. 

[Bowhunter 2,693]

Boogie just put is name in the transfer Portal lol.

[IUc2016 7,121]

Still think we see one more transfer if we get two additional guards. Cupps would have a lot of guys in front of him...

I like Trey as the backup point anyway, just my opinion though

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6 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Would it be with the understanding hed be off the bench? 

Respectfully, why? 

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3 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

Boogie just put is name in the transfer Portal lol.

He's a recruit, he just asked out of his NLI so he can follow Cal to Arkansas.

Not in the transfer portal

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I don’t know why starting would be such a big deal if your getting good minutes and making bank.

[dwtaylor1055 1,523]

Myles Rice now following Payne via Instagram.  Only Cupps were following him prior to yesterday

[OKHOOSIER 1,984]

2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Respectfully, why? 

Based on the targets and potential gets. It isn't a crazy thought when we have visits from this many guys for one spot. They would presumably all be looking for starter minutes. I seriously doubt the pitch to all of them is commit and compete for one spot. With Rice already committed, some combination of Conwell/Hickman/Carlisle are going to be jockeying for the other spots.

Respectfully, would you rather have Hickman starting over Conwell? I am not sure I would rather have him start over Kanaan. I say that more on the assumption we land Ballo. If that happens we aren't starting 3 guards. Unless the money is so good they can't turn it down, all these guys are looking to transfer and start somewhere. I am just conjecturing on if Woody hits a grand slam with the guards and how the minutes would play out. I want Hickman, but not at the expense of landing Conwell. Now if we only land one of them, the entire discussion is moot. I am just spitballing here.