Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,195]

1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Watch highlights on Hickman and you’ll bring surprised how many blow by hoops he gets.  He’s not just a shooter.

I won't be surprised at all brother. I scouted the kid in HS and coached against him. He's really good lol... unassuming as heck, but he can play. 

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25 minutes ago, btownqb said:

All in on this.... and regardless of Hickman's catch-and-shoot ranking, he is VERY athletic. That was not his strength coming out of HS, he was not an elite shooter. SNEAKY athletic, especially for a 6'3 white kid. (if that offends someone, p*** off)... 

Connor also knows how to play the game. You're getting a TG-type athlete and a shooter that's better than Leal. 

You're right, he does not need to be a starter at the B1G level, but CH can absolutely play 15-30 mins on a successful basketball team. 

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I think we are a little too enamored with #s at times. We needed consistency and health more than anything the last two years out of our PG... Perkins has been very healthy. I'd take him and Connor in a heart beat and go from there. 

 

I keep reading that Bruce Thornton is a better player than Tony Perkins and Gillespie is a better player than Tony Perkins. Thornton absolutely is but he's not in the portal. Gillespie very likely is (you never know when moving up a level but his numbers suggest he's better than Perkins offensively and probably slightly worse on defense) but there never appeared to be traction for anyone but Maryland there. So, if Perkins is the best option, I think there are some real positives. He is capable of playing with real speed with the ball. He is a good distributor. Good creator and can get to the rim. Draws fouls and is a good free-throw shooter. Veteran with a whole lot of Big Ten experience. If he is your starting point guard, you have to surround him with better perimeter shooting than what IU had this past season. A backcourt of Perkins and Galloway for long stretches would be an issue. 

A hypothetical lineup of say...Perkins/Conwell/Bryson Tucker (getting way ahead of myself here)/Mgbako and Reneau would be interesting. Or, Perkins/Conwell/Mgbako/Reneau and hopefully an athletic center that could rebound well would not suck. Then Galloway, Hickman, Leland Walker, Cupps, Newton off the bench. I think that's a tournament team. That would not be a team that contended for a Big Ten title and it's not good enough for what IU should be striving for but it would be progress, in my opinion.

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59 minutes ago, HoosierHuddle said:

I had not looked at anything on here since yesterday afternoon and I was surprised to see quite a bit of negative opinion on Tony Perkins as a potential point guard option. He has faults in his game but I'm quite a bit more positive than most, it seems. The comparisons to Xavier Johnson are, in my opinion, way off base.

Perkins averaged 1.5 more free throw attempts per game than XJ, shot 79% compared to 68% from FT, averaged 1.8 more assists per game and fewer turnovers per game, doubled Xavier's steals per game, grades out much higher on defensive metrics than XJ and was nearly double XJ's points per game last season. In addition, Tony Perkins is considered a terrific leader and has no injury history, off-court issues or erratic on-court behavior like whacking another player in the groin. 

The perimeter shooting is a concern, no question. He is not a perfect fit. However, Perkins does offer several positive attributes that would make him an asset for the Hoosiers and an upgrade on the guard play IU had last season. Plus, he's actually in the portal and might be interested in playing at IU...something that can't currently be said about Belmont's Gillespie or Ohio State's Thornton.

Also, Hickman is 98th percentile nationally in catch and shoot three-point opportunities (credit to Tony Adragna for showing that stat). He's an asset for the roster. A starter? Hopefully not. A good piece for the roster and a player that could be valuable in helping IU win games? I believe absolutely yes.

I haven't written anything negative about Perkins, but his 3p shooting is a concern- particularly if he's paired with Trey in the backcourt. Now if IU brings in an above average to very good SG? I feel much better about it. Hopefully MM improves and even Reneau is able to step out consistently. Just having 0 or 1 3p threat has really gotten old over the last 6-7yrs. 

I like the look of Hickman, from the little I've seen. I just want to win, so whatever that takes: MVC transfers, 5 star freshman, circus freaks, whatever, bring em on! 

[IUFAN1976 3,256]

1 hour ago, HoosierHuddle said:

I keep reading that Bruce Thornton is a better player than Tony Perkins and Gillespie is a better player than Tony Perkins. Thornton absolutely is but he's not in the portal. Gillespie very likely is (you never know when moving up a level but his numbers suggest he's better than Perkins offensively and probably slightly worse on defense) but there never appeared to be traction for anyone but Maryland there. So, if Perkins is the best option, I think there are some real positives. He is capable of playing with real speed with the ball. He is a good distributor. Good creator and can get to the rim. Draws fouls and is a good free-throw shooter. Veteran with a whole lot of Big Ten experience. If he is your starting point guard, you have to surround him with better perimeter shooting than what IU had this past season. A backcourt of Perkins and Galloway for long stretches would be an issue. 

A hypothetical lineup of say...Perkins/Conwell/Bryson Tucker (getting way ahead of myself here)/Mgbako and Reneau would be interesting. Or, Perkins/Conwell/Mgbako/Reneau and hopefully an athletic center that could rebound well would not suck. Then Galloway, Hickman, Leland Walker, Cupps, Newton off the bench. I think that's a tournament team. That would not be a team that contended for a Big Ten title and it's not good enough for what IU should be striving for but it would be progress, in my opinion.

I have nothing against Perkins and he will be an upgrade to our point guard position but I would really like our point guard to be able to shoot and consistently hit the 3 as well as being able to penetrate, dish, get to the rim, and get to the line 

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13 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

Whew... that's definitely NGW lol

Legend in his own mind.

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46 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I have nothing against Perkins and he will be an upgrade to our point guard position but I would really like our point guard to be able to shoot and consistently hit the 3 as well as being able to penetrate, dish, get to the rim, and get to the line 

Do your taxes, too? 

[Home Jersey 7,726]

5 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Do your taxes, too? 

Right. I too would like a jack of all trades, do it all kind of PG lol... not a lot of them in college basketball exist! On the whole I think Perkins would be a great add, though I don't think it's very likely (would be happy to be proven wrong). If our other additions can shoot well, I don't have any major concerns with picking him up

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55 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I have nothing against Perkins and he will be an upgrade to our point guard position but I would really like our point guard to be able to shoot and consistently hit the 3 as well as being able to penetrate, dish, get to the rim, and get to the line 

Still need to think about defensive capabilities. I know shooters, shooters, and more shooters is the portal wish list, but we still need to think about the other side of the ball as well. We were just as bad defensively last year, especially guarding the perimeter. 

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2 hours ago, HoosierHuddle said:

I had not looked at anything on here since yesterday afternoon and I was surprised to see quite a bit of negative opinion on Tony Perkins as a potential point guard option. He has faults in his game but I'm quite a bit more positive than most, it seems. The comparisons to Xavier Johnson are, in my opinion, way off base.

Perkins averaged 1.5 more free throw attempts per game than XJ, shot 79% compared to 68% from FT, averaged 1.8 more assists per game and fewer turnovers per game, doubled Xavier's steals per game, grades out much higher on defensive metrics than XJ and was nearly double XJ's points per game last season. In addition, Tony Perkins is considered a terrific leader and has no injury history, off-court issues or erratic on-court behavior like whacking another player in the groin. 

The perimeter shooting is a concern, no question. He is not a perfect fit. However, Perkins does offer several positive attributes that would make him an asset for the Hoosiers and an upgrade on the guard play IU had last season. Plus, he's actually in the portal and might be interested in playing at IU...something that can't currently be said about Belmont's Gillespie or Ohio State's Thornton.

Also, Hickman is 98th percentile nationally in catch and shoot three-point opportunities (credit to Tony Adragna for showing that stat). He's an asset for the roster. A starter? Hopefully not. A good piece for the roster and a player that could be valuable in helping IU win games? I believe absolutely yes.

Perkins is a good player, just not a very good fit alongside Galloway. And especially not if we still play with two posts next year. I would not be mad if we added him but if you are choosing players in de facto "free agency", I'd rather choose a better fit. If we just add Perkins, replace Ware with a worse center, and run back the same lineup as last year I'll be pretty disappointed.

Hickman is absolutely a fit, 100% agree, either as a complimentary starter or a 6th man type role. 

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18 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Right. I too would like a jack of all trades, do it all kind of PG lol... not a lot of them in college basketball exist! On the whole I think Perkins would be a great add, though I don't think it's very likely (would be happy to be proven wrong). If our other additions can shoot well, I don't have any major concerns with picking him up

They need to be 6'6+ too 

[IndyHoops 461]

2 hours ago, HoosierHuddle said:

I had not looked at anything on here since yesterday afternoon and I was surprised to see quite a bit of negative opinion on Tony Perkins as a potential point guard option. He has faults in his game but I'm quite a bit more positive than most, it seems. The comparisons to Xavier Johnson are, in my opinion, way off base.

Perkins averaged 1.5 more free throw attempts per game than XJ, shot 79% compared to 68% from FT, averaged 1.8 more assists per game and fewer turnovers per game, doubled Xavier's steals per game, grades out much higher on defensive metrics than XJ and was nearly double XJ's points per game last season. In addition, Tony Perkins is considered a terrific leader and has no injury history, off-court issues or erratic on-court behavior like whacking another player in the groin. 

The perimeter shooting is a concern, no question. He is not a perfect fit. However, Perkins does offer several positive attributes that would make him an asset for the Hoosiers and an upgrade on the guard play IU had last season. Plus, he's actually in the portal and might be interested in playing at IU...something that can't currently be said about Belmont's Gillespie or Ohio State's Thornton.

Also, Hickman is 98th percentile nationally in catch and shoot three-point opportunities (credit to Tony Adragna for showing that stat). He's an asset for the roster. A starter? Hopefully not. A good piece for the roster and a player that could be valuable in helping IU win games? I believe absolutely yes.

Is Perkins an upgrade from an injured X? Yes.

Is Perkins what IU needs? No.

 

 

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16 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Pay Peyton Sandfort a cool million. I really don’t want to watch a Tony Perkins lead Hoosiers team. This is gonna be so frustrating.


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Just pack it in for awhile brotha. Deep down, you knew this would be this way. Prepare to be disappointed. Then when you voice frustration, prepare to be told you’re the problem. 

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18 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Still need to think about defensive capabilities. I know shooters, shooters, and more shooters is the portal wish list, but we still need to think about the other side of the ball as well. We were just as bad defensively last year, especially guarding the perimeter. 

The point guards for IU were not the problem with our perimeter defense most of the time. Yes Cupps got toasted a couple games, but overall, Cupps, injured X, Galloway, and Leal did a OK job. The problem was MM and MR, and will be next year if IU plays 2 bigs.

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17 minutes ago, Shooter said:

Perkins is a good player, just not a very good fit alongside Galloway. And especially not if we still play with two posts next year. I would not be mad if we added him but if you are choosing players in de facto "free agency", I'd rather choose a better fit. If we just add Perkins, replace Ware with a worse center, and run back the same lineup as last year I'll be pretty disappointed.

Hickman is absolutely a fit, 100% agree, either as a complimentary starter or a 6th man type role. 

^^^ this 

[IUFAN1976 3,256]

22 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Still need to think about defensive capabilities. I know shooters, shooters, and more shooters is the portal wish list, but we still need to think about the other side of the ball as well. We were just as bad defensively last year, especially guarding the perimeter. 

Yes and that too!

[IUFAN1976 3,256]

36 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Do your taxes, too? 

While he’s at it!  Can he mow my yard and keep up with my landscape too?

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Eddie Lampkin I'm the portal. Would be a good get if MR could increase his range

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From Lawrence, KS. Probably reasonable to make an assumption on this one, 

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11 minutes ago, Demo said:

From Lawrence, KS. Probably reasonable to make an assumption on this one, 

Could be, but might be this years Nick Timberlake if he does.

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34 minutes ago, maharkn said:

Eddie Lampkin I'm the portal. Would be a good get if MR could increase his range

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Transferred last year to Colorado from TCU.  Had some mental health issues at TCU that led him to quit playing before the end of the year.  Might be better suited to a less basketball obsessed