Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[CSP]

You need two high usage players.  I'm not sure I understand this discussion. 

I agree outside of those two, you'd really want some guys that can stretch the floor.. 

[Home Jersey]

4M for Haralson seems totally insane to me...?

I literally couldn't care less about the players getting paid, they deserve it, but seems like a very frothy and unsustainable market right now. How are teams supposed to build a roster when a guy who didn't even make the ACC all freshman team is going to command 3M+? With that 3 point FG% and AST:TO ratio? 

Makes it kind of easy for me to want to just glaze over the roster building process and see where we end up when the balls roll out on the court next year. A case study on radically free market economics indeed. 

[hper50]

https://x.com/joetipton/status/2039786198726525386?s=46

Fixed it for you.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Class of '66 Old Fart

[TheWatShot]

33 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Also asking AI anything about cbb is not productive lol

Never forget last April when chatgpt declared Purdue the 2026 national champions. Probably one of Purdue's finest moments. 

 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Next week is definitely going to be crazy 

[Pagoda]

9 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

4M for Haralson seems totally insane to me...?

I literally couldn't care less about the players getting paid, they deserve it, but seems like a very frothy and unsustainable market right now. How are teams supposed to build a roster when a guy who didn't even make the ACC all freshman team is going to command 3M+? With that 3 point FG% and AST:TO ratio? 

Makes it kind of easy for me to want to just glaze over the roster building process and see where we end up when the balls roll out on the court next year. A case study on radically free market economics indeed. 

$4M seems too high — that implies player values more or less doubled. $2M or so is my best guess.

But that’s just a gut feeling I have no info aside from what the scarce bigs are asking ($3-4M).

[IU Prof]

What was the book on Haralson's shooting coming out of HS? Was it expected to be better than it was, or is long distance not a meaningful part of his game? If the former, I might be willing to bet on a second year bump. If the latter, but sure he's a great fit in this offense at the 2 or 3.

[Home Jersey]

6 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Next week is definitely going to be crazy 

I will ask every commercially available LLM to map each potential transfer candidate for 2026-2027, how much NIL they project to make, and a summary of their strengths and weaknesses.

Then I will bring it back to the board and ask for thoughts on our potential new starting lineup of Haralson, Romeo Langford, Trent Sisley, Yaxel Lendeborg and Willie Caulie-Stein...

[Aaron]

To me Harralson is the type of guy you pay 4-5 mil for both from an optics standpoint and his talent.

As we learned last year, much better to have two guys at high level than a bunch of 1-2 million guys. For people saying its to expensive, unless you want a bunch of mid-prospects again and another yr of missing tourney, i’d highly recommend overpaying for a couple difference makers over less expensive OK guys.

The best players are worth what market says they are worth. If thats 4-5 mil so be it. Can’t get into ‘this guy is too expensive’ again or you won’t build a competitive roster.

Once you like someone and feel they are a must have (regardless if its Harralson or someone else), you pay whatever it takes to get them to IU.

My sister fell in love with a house recently she couldn’t live without and had to pay well over asking price to get it. If Hoosiers find that similar must have player you don’t put a value on that. 

[Kentuckysucks]

23 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Never forget last April when chatgpt declared Purdue the 2026 national champions. Probably one of Purdue's finest moments. 

 

 

[Home Jersey]

1 hour ago, Aaron said:

To me Harralson is the type of guy you pay 4-5 mil for both from an optics standpoint and his talent.

As we learned last year, much better to have two guys at high level than a bunch of 1-2 million guys. For people saying its to expensive, unless you want a bunch of mid-prospects again and another yr of missing tourney, i’d highly recommend overpaying for a couple difference makers over less expensive OK guys.

The best players are worth what market says they are worth. If thats 4-5 mil so be it. Can’t get into ‘this guy is too expensive’ again or you won’t build a competitive roster.

Once you like someone and feel they are a must have (regardless if its Harralson or someone else), you pay whatever it takes to get them to IU.

My sister fell in love with a house recently she couldn’t live without and had to pay well over asking price to get it. If Hoosiers find that similar must have player you don’t put a value on that. 

I don't agree Haralson is the kind of guy you blow out the budget for. Not to the extent of 4-5M. He is talented and young but look at his assist:TO ratio and 3FG%... optics wins don't help if they don't translate to wins on the court. And spending all your money on two good players then a bunch of scrubs seems like a great way to not get optimal results on the court.  

It's wonderful your sister was able and willing to go above asking for a home she fell in love with. Hope she enjoys it. That's not how prudent organizations function. Can't make emotional decisions with a finite pot of money.

Can't hit the easy button and buy a solution, if the solution is 2 studs and a bunch of bench warmers. Have to do a good job on the dirty work of scouting, evaluating, prioritizing, negotiating, pitching, selling... IMO, that's the lesson of this year. Not that we need to construct a roster like BYU or Rutgers two years ago. 

[Aaron]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I don't agree Haralson is the kind of guy you blow out the budget for. Not to the extent of 4-5M. He is talented and young but look at his assist:TO ratio and 3FG%... optics wins don't help if they don't translate to wins on the court. And spending all your money on two good players then a bunch of scrubs seems like a great way to not get optimal results on the court.  

It's wonderful your sister was able and willing to go above asking for a home she fell in love with. Hope she enjoys it. That's not how prudent organizations function. Can't make emotional decisions with a finite pot of money.

Can't hit the easy button and buy a solution, if the solution is 2 studs and a bunch of bench warmers. Have to do a good job on the dirty work of scouting, evaluating, prioritizing, negotiating. IMO, that's the lesson of this year. Not that we need to construct a roster like BYU or Rutgers two years ago. 

If you find every higher level player cost 4-5 million, then thats what you do.

If you find someone of level of Harralson who wants less, great. If not, then you will have to pay 4-5 mil for two high level players. 

If IU pays 2-3 mil for a bunch of mediocre talent, people will start complaining when roster isn’t talented enough. IU needs to pay what the market says it costs for high level players whatever that is.

[tyappleg]

What I gather from this thread, is that it doesnt matter who transfers in; a lot of people will be unhappy.  

I've seen a lot of good players listed here get lukewarm reception in here that are going to get strong offers from teams that have been much better than Indiana recently.

Most college basketball players will have flaws, very few are going to be good in every area.  It's piecing those together to make the puzzle that's important.  They failed at that last year, and need to do better this year.

Either way, can't wait for next week to watch this sub implode because we got a player they didnt know existed 2 weeks ago.  

Should be fun. 

 

[Stuhoo]

An underrated aspect of Haralson? All of his to date-inefficient talent comes via a 19 year old who will improve dramatically.

[Home Jersey]

16 minutes ago, Aaron said:

If you find every higher level player cost 4-5 million, then thats what you do.

And what do you do when you've spent $20M on 4 players and have $0 left? Just saying, it's not really a legitimate stance to say "just spend whatever it takes to land the most talented players."  Sadly we do not have an infinite money machine.

16 minutes ago, Aaron said:

If IU pays 2-3 mil for a bunch of mediocre talent, people will start complaining when roster isn’t talented enough. IU needs to pay what the market says it costs for high level players whatever that is.

2-3M is far from mediocre. There was an article shared on this board a few weeks ago where multiple agents put the range of players potentially able to net 4M+ in NIL between 10-25. They projected All-Conference players to go for 2.5M, give or take 500k.

Money obviously helps. All the final 4 teams this year are well resourced. Some more than others. The goal is not to follow the market it is to outperform the market. You can try to do that in the way BYU and Kentucky did this year. Or you can simply not spend wastefully and ask your coach to use their still ample (but not infinite) resources to build a well-balanced team capable of winning. Outperforming comes down to coaching much more than it does spending. This is well documented... see Duke.

And if Haralson wants to be here for a number between 2-3M and that's what the staff offers him, then I'm all for it. 

[Stuhoo]

54 minutes ago, hper50 said:

https://x.com/joetipton/status/2039786198726525386?s=46

Fixed it for you.

 

I'm a fan. Love his motor and body language, and he's pretty talented. I also think that his freshman lousy distance shooting was with reasonable form and could improve enough to be useful.

[Kentuckysucks]

 

 

[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, IU Prof said:

What was the book on Haralson's shooting coming out of HS? Was it expected to be better than it was, or is long distance not a meaningful part of his game? If the former, I might be willing to bet on a second year bump. If the latter, but sure he's a great fit in this offense at the 2 or 3.

He was not a very good shooter in HS. I don't remember him being so bad that 20% would be expected but probably high 20s, low 30s.

[AH1971]

1 hour ago, Aaron said:

To me Harralson is the type of guy you pay 4-5 mil for both from an optics standpoint and his talent.

As we learned last year, much better to have two guys at high level than a bunch of 1-2 million guys. For people saying its to expensive, unless you want a bunch of mid-prospects again and another yr of missing tourney, i’d highly recommend overpaying for a couple difference makers over less expensive OK guys.

The best players are worth what market says they are worth. If thats 4-5 mil so be it. Can’t get into ‘this guy is too expensive’ again or you won’t build a competitive roster.

Once you like someone and feel they are a must have (regardless if its Harralson or someone else), you pay whatever it takes to get them to IU.

My sister fell in love with a house recently she couldn’t live without and had to pay well over asking price to get it. If Hoosiers find that similar must have player you don’t put a value on that. 

If you’re going to pay $4-5 million for one player, there’s going to be 20-25 guys better than Haralson.

[HinnyHoosier]

Take my opinion with a grain (or three) of salt because I didn't watch Haralson at ND. He does have talent and untapped potential. ND was obviously a place where that wasn't going to be unlocked. Shoot, many will say that about IU. But we've seen what a change of scenery will do for an underachieving, talented kid. I agree, the price can't be too high and hopefully he's not thinking he's a 3+ mil guy. 

An aside, how do we think Purdoo plays in here?