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Class of '66 Old Fart

Transfer Portal w IU Interest

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1 hour ago, Ctf9 said:

Several people on here have posted McCollum was the first choice, in addition to vague tweets like Goodman’s pointing the same direction. Also Drake’s AD made it pretty clear IU wanted McCollum but he said he wouldn’t talk until after the season—another example of Dolson’s actions suggesting speed really mattered. 
 

And now more than a week later McCollum has done more at Iowa than DeVries has at IU. 
 

 

The last time I checked the only players McCollum has brought into Iowa are his own Drake players

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18 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:


True. And as of April 10, our record is exactly the same as Michigan’s and Louisville’s and every other team in the P5… gotta be patient and let the process develop. Even KwaC knows that :)

We have seen teams work and not work in the portal.  It will be interesting to see what happens.  I want him to target some HS kids, some sophs and juniors, etc.  it’s a process that we won’t know how it plays out until next year.  I am the most relaxed I have been in forever.  

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Can Gignetti's approach work for IU basketball?  Would you rather have a non P5 player that started and produced or a former highly ranked kid that got limited minutes at a P5 school?

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2 minutes ago, JF87 said:

Can Gignetti's approach work for IU basketball?  Would you rather have a non P5 player that started and produced or a former highly ranked kid that got limited minutes at a P5 school?

I love the Cignetti approach….. those kids have something to prove and have on a big stage!

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1 hour ago, Ctf9 said:

Goodman and others (Curry Hicks Sage) said McCollum was the first choice. So did @Chris007 and others here. 
 

You all are really, really invested in enforced optimism.

McCollum was always the first choice but he couldn’t handle two things at once and said he needed to think about it :-) now he’s stuck with Iowa NIL good luck with that 

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12 minutes ago, JF87 said:

Can Gignetti's approach work for IU basketball?  Would you rather have a non P5 player that started and produced or a former highly ranked kid that got limited minutes at a P5 school?

 

9 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

I love the Cignetti approach….. those kids have something to prove and have on a big stage!

…pieces of it can work, but basketball is much more dependent on your strongest link and football your weakest. Some of that is because you play 5 vs. 11 at a time, some of it is structural game mechanics. If you can ID talent from a lower level that works at a higher one, you can do some of the Cignetti-for-hoops thing.

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One reason folks are anxious is that for the last two years of the Woody era, all the anxieties came through.

new coach, new era, but old habits die hard, and under Woody everything was as it seemed. His recruiting approach seemed bad from the outside because it was. His roster building ideas didn’t make sense because there wasn’t a good understanding of how you win in contemporary college basketball. His teams took bad shots because he didn’t understand why they were bad. Everything just was what it seemed on its face. 

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49 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

People put way too much stock into the idea of Osterman as Dolson’s “mouthpiece.” You can’t attribute everything Osterman says or does to being driven by Dolson. There’s no reason to believe the AD was trying to subliminally reassure fans that the portal would be taken care of before April 7. 

No one said anything about subliminal messages. But the underlying idea of Thamel and Osterman’s reporting was that IU was carefully laying the groundwork, for months, to move really fast. If you listened to his podcasts, it was clear that he was getting nudged by IU to look at these dates and deadlines. And I mean he wasn’t wrong—tons of good players off the board by April 7. We just didn’t get any of them. 

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47 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

We have seen teams work and not work in the portal.  It will be interesting to see what happens.  I want him to target some HS kids, some sophs and juniors, etc.  it’s a process that we won’t know how it plays out until next year.  I am the most relaxed I have been in forever.  

Yep. And we've seen what a collection of talent can do when it's not assembled into a team or coached sufficiently (IU/Woodson) ... and we've seen what happens when a team is built from the portal and coached (Louisville) ... but getting quality HS kids who can develop and who will stick around will help build the continuity that we desire...

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6 minutes ago, Ctf9 said:

No one said anything about subliminal messages. But the underlying idea of Thamel and Osterman’s reporting was that IU was carefully laying the groundwork, for months, to move really fast. If you listened to his podcasts, it was clear that he was getting nudged by IU to look at these dates and deadlines. And I mean he wasn’t wrong—tons of good players off the board by April 7. We just didn’t get any of them. 

We got two of them.  Most teams only got one or two minus Louisville who got three of them.  I mean be realistic here.  We have Wilkerson coming this weekend.  

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9 minutes ago, Ctf9 said:

No one said anything about subliminal messages. But the underlying idea of Thamel and Osterman’s reporting was that IU was carefully laying the groundwork, for months, to move really fast. If you listened to his podcasts, it was clear that he was getting nudged by IU to look at these dates and deadlines. And I mean he wasn’t wrong—tons of good players off the board by April 7. We just didn’t get any of them. 

Was it really? …

Respectfully April 7 is turning out to not be such a significant date. Dooming over this comes off very chicken little. Plenty of talent still available. I get being anxious and skeptical. I sort of am too. But I don’t think it’s logical to say fans were being led to believe anything about the roster being built by now… certainly not by Dolson. 

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1 hour ago, newcastle12 said:

So after the lawsuit how many years will he have left in Division 1?

No limit eventually. Once the players are deemed employees they won’t be able to be fired due to too many years of service. 

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