They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Trish 12,356]

33 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yes that was a promise but at this point if you're about to lose your job are you still worried about the promises you made?

I don't expect him back. Heck I don't know who I expect back at this point. I know ACC & SEC teams are trying to get Malik to go back close to home.  

Malik is good as gone, he’s going to get more money to play at a better program for a better coach. 

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3 minutes ago, lillurk said:

His defensive awareness would be below average on the 8th or 9th grade teams the middle school/HS I played at. I don’t mean to be unkind and of course plenty of players have deficiencies, develop, etc., but still being this bad in transition, switches, etc. At this point makes me worry he may never catch on.

They don't really teach defense anymore. It's more of, "how good of a 1v1 offensive player can you be?" That and kids nowadays just don't have that "dawg" in them anymore. Basketball is a hobby and not a passion. They might practice a lot, but it's empty practicing. Making themselves great for horse but not making themselves great BASKETBALL players. Seeing it really manifest in the NBA. When guys like LeBron, Curry and some others retire, the "dawg mentality" will basically be gone. It'll be glorified AAU where everyone is friends and there isn't a competitive spirit.

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2 minutes ago, kottke said:

I'll throw in a six pack.

I'll give him a Starbucks gift card. I know that's his favorite. 

[Scotty R 2,714]

31 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I am off today, had a yearly check up today. So what does a long time frustrated IU fan do, watch old games on YouTube. Watching the 93 sweet 16 game vs UL. Boy is the game so different and don't even look like the same game as today. So much more movement and passing and less standing and dribbling. A lot more scoring as well, right now it is IU up 35-29 with 7 minutes to go in the first half.

Watching this game made me realize that this team took mainly shots would he considered bad shots today. Even though they scored 50 in the first half 65-70% of the shots made wouldn't be a good shot today and wouldn't he taken.

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49 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Why not? Everyone else seems to be getting technicals.

Not sure what it would take for a coach to get a flagrant 2 foul... 

[JF87 1,791]

3 minutes ago, Trish said:

Malik is good as gone, he’s going to get more money to play at a better program for a better coach. 

Worst case scenario is that Ware goes pro; Johnson, Walker, and Leal graduate; and Malik, Mgbako, Banks, Galloway, and Gunn put their names in the transfer portal.  In this situation is Woodson held responsible for this **** show or does the administration just say this is the new normal?  

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13 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Tonight we get over the hump vs a very bad road team in nebraska.

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I'm beginning to think WE ARE the hump...

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13 minutes ago, Trish said:

Malik is good as gone, he’s going to get more money to play at a better program for a better coach. 

ehh not buying it 

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Malik is good as gone, he’s going to get more money to play at a better program for a better coach. 

I agree I would be stunned if he came back. It would take a boatload of money.

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3 minutes ago, JF87 said:

Worst case scenario is that Ware goes pro; Johnson, Walker, and Leal graduate; and Malik, Mgbako, Banks, Galloway, and Gunn put their names in the transfer portal.  In this situation is Woodson held responsible for this **** show or does the administration just say this is the new normal?  

Cupps-Sparks PnR has to be good for AT LEAST 4 ppg. 

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1 minute ago, btownqb said:

ehh not buying it 

It is funny that you haven't heard any of this until Woodson called him out after the last game.

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Worst case scenario is that Ware goes pro; Johnson, Walker, and Leal graduate; and Malik, Mgbako, Banks, Galloway, and Gunn put their names in the transfer portal.  In this situation is Woodson held responsible for this **** show or does the administration just say this is the new normal?  

Not only that but we have no idea if Newton will be able to play. And if he does helost two years so who knows what he brings

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54 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Maybe but it's their call not ours

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I guess my point is coaches should stay way from players with nutty parents like the plague. 

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1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

I don't think this is exactly groundbreaking "news" at this point, but Mackenzie has not been very well coached throughout his career. For the first 3 years of his HS career, he went to a small Catholic school that happens to have a pretty good basketball program. Dime a dozen coach - he got some talented players there but clearly does not teach fundamentals very effectively. Only in his senior year did he transfer to one of the NJ powerhouse programs and that coach is more of a recruiter than a developer of talent. His AAU team was, I believe, coached by DJ Wagner Sr. and it's AAU, so not a lot of teaching goes on. His size probably covered up a lot of deficiencies in his game. Not that the staff really spent much time evaluating him.............

All this to say, it's very hard to navigate the basketball landscape if you're not being brought up in the right "tree" IMO. I'm sure they were excited by the idea of playing for a former NBA coach and trusted in his ability to set Mackenzie up for success. For some reason they seem(ed?) very set on him playing as a 3. Kind of weird for a family that does not have a deep understanding of the sport. I can't imagine they feel great about how this year has gone and think the typical move in these circumstances is to transfer so it looks like your poor play was more a product of being in a dumpster fire system and not about your own ability. Maybe Woody and him have a good enough relationship that he comes back, but I doubt it. That kid needs a sophomore year...somewhere. Ideally here. But no reason to wither away in the G League by leaving college now. 

Actually Woodson/staff have done a good job getting him going IMO.  I don’t think anyone realized how fundamentally behind he was.  If it’s me, I go with consistency and Woodson’s ability to get some kids to that next level.  Even Miller Kopp is G leageing it.  

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26 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Tonight we get over the hump vs a very bad road team in nebraska.

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If anyone could serve as a get right game for them, it'd be IU.

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I guess my point is coaches should stay way from players with nutty parents like the plague. 

True but Woodson chases stars. That's his whole recruiting strategy.

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If anyone could serve as a get right game for them, it'd be IU.

We will win and Woodson his going to do alot of chest bumping in the press conference.

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[AZ Hoosier 8,666]

6 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

 

Spot on... practice does not make perfect... practice makes permanent... if you practice with correct form, you will get better... if you have bad form and shoot a million free throws without fixing the form, you just make that bad from more permanent.

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18 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Spot on... practice does not make perfect... practice makes permanent... if you practice with correct form, you will get better... if you have bad form and shoot a million free throws without fixing the form, you just make that bad from more permanent.

Also, according to Coyle (have yet to confirm it) this year's team has lost ONE LESS 20-point game than Crean's initial (6-25) team... that is mind boggling, if true... rebuilding, my @$$