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14 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

The constant handwringing is so over the top.  The man is gone after this season.  He ain't comin' back.  If nothing else, what Coach Cig has done in one year has further made the point that Woody ain't the man after 4 years and what can be done in one year with the right coach.  

I would love to have your optimism, but then why not announce it. Woody announcing he was retiring would instantly heal the fanbase which is incredibly fractured (but becoming less so with every bad loss). It would almost certainly prevent any major toxicity at home games which is inevitable right now. We have a one person recruiting class that isn't likely to get bigger. He has only two years left on the current contract and would need an extension as soon as the season is over. There is nothing to lose. 

I simply see no logical reason to let this farce continue without his retirement out in the open unless it is not written in stone. 

Heck, I would be willing to celebrate Woody the player, coach, and IU ambassador-- make a huge deal out of his last home game as coach.

Unfortunately I think his ego probably prevents any of that, or, his future at IU is not ordained yet and remains based on performance. Just my completely uninformed internet opinion, so who knows, I hope you and Stu are right and we (the royal we of negative nancies) are just chicken little lol

Posted
18 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

^^This^^

He is absolutely gone after this season.

  • There is no successful future high school recruiting to consider,
  • He got his four year recruiting cycle and chance to succeed,
  • The on-court results certainly aren't there,
  • The coaches and programs across the state are not enamored,
  • The money to move on is raring to go, ......  and on and on and on.

Root for the Hoosiers this season, and wait for what could be a fascinating spring and summer leading into 2025/26.

  • Buckner's term is up summer 2025. He's a lame duck who can't force another year of Woodson.
Posted
57 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Just my guess but from what I have heard we are starting the process to do our due diligence to move on from Woodson at the end of the season. 

Maybe a particularly more focused due diligence after last night's college slate? One can hope.

Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, go iu bb said:
  • Buckner's term is up summer 2025. He's a lame duck who can't force another year of Woodson.

People keep saying this but it is just this (his second) term as chair. He has been on the Board since 2016 chair since 2021. A quick google search returns nothing stating Buckner plans to leave from what I can see. I would love something on the record that he intends to retire from the chair if anyone could provide it.

You can serve back to back two year terms as chair. You can serve as chair again after a two year hiatus as chair if you have served two consecutive terms. This "end of term" thing people keep bringing up is simply he end of consecutive two year chair terms. He is under no obligation to leave the board at the end of it, he simply ceases to be chairman. Maybe losing the chair limits his ability to protect Woody, I don't know, but unless he is off the board entirely, I have a hard time believing his influence wanes greatly. 

Edit: Please someone more learned than I correct me if any of that is incorrect, that's just my quick cliffs notes research on BOT rules. 

Edited by OKHOOSIER
Posted
5 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

People keep saying this but it is just this (his second) term as chair. He has been on the Board since 2016 chair since 2021. A quick google search returns nothing stating Buckner plans to leave from what I can see. I would love something on the record that he intends to retire from the chair if anyone could provide it.

You can serve back to back two year terms as chair. You can serve as chair again after a two year hiatus as chair if you have served two consecutive terms. This "end of term" thing people keep bringing up is simply he end of consecutive two year chair terms. He is under no obligation to leave the board at the end of it, he simply ceases to be chairman. Maybe losing the chair limits his ability to protect Woody, I don't know, but unless he is off the board entirely, I have a hard time believing his influence wanes greatly. 

Edit: Please someone more learned than I correct me if any of that is incorrect, that's just my quick cliffs notes research on BOT rules. 

Trustees generally serve three year terms.  His started in 2022 and ends in 2025.  He can get re-appointed to another 3 year term. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

People keep saying this but it is just this (his second) term as chair. He has been on the Board since 2016 chair since 2021. A quick google search returns nothing stating Buckner plans to leave from what I can see. I would love something on the record that he intends to retire from the chair if anyone could provide it.

You can serve back to back two year terms as chair. You can serve as chair again after a two year hiatus as chair if you have served two consecutive terms. This "end of term" thing people keep bringing up is simply he end of consecutive two year chair terms. He is under no obligation to leave the board at the end of it, he simply ceases to be chairman. Maybe losing the chair limits his ability to protect Woody, I don't know, but unless he is off the board entirely, I have a hard time believing his influence wanes greatly. 

Edit: Please someone more learned than I correct me if any of that is incorrect, that's just my quick cliffs notes research on BOT rules. 

My understanding is that his term on the BoT is ending, not just as the chairman. He could be appointed by the governor again, but whether or not that happens remains to be seen. What also remains to be seen is if he even wants another term, as some on here have said he doesn't.

Posted
2 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

People keep saying this but it is just this (his second) term as chair. He has been on the Board since 2016 chair since 2021. A quick google search returns nothing stating Buckner plans to leave from what I can see. I would love something on the record that he intends to retire from the chair if anyone could provide it.

You can serve back to back two year terms as chair. You can serve as chair again after a two year hiatus as chair if you have served two consecutive terms. This "end of term" thing people keep bringing up is simply he end of consecutive two year chair terms. He is under no obligation to leave the board at the end of it, he simply ceases to be chairman. Maybe losing the chair limits his ability to protect Woody, I don't know, but unless he is off the board entirely, I have a hard time believing his influence wanes greatly. 

Maybe there are others within those ranks who also classify Buckner as ridiculous on a daily basis. Hopefully.

Posted

Tamar Bates- 12.3ppg, 1.8spg, 52.7% FG, 35% 3pt, 96.2% FT

CJ Gunn- 9.6ppg, 35% 3pt, 80% FT

Kaleb Banks- 17.6ppg, 8.1rpg, 1.3bpg 50% FG, 41.2% 3pt, 82.5% FT

Kaleb Banks looked like he could barely run under Woodson and now averaging about 18 a game? Tulane isn't good but he had 33 against FSU.

Posted
8 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

My understanding is that his term on the BoT is ending, not just as the chairman. He could be appointed by the governor again, but whether or not that happens remains to be seen. What also remains to be seen is if he even wants another term, as some on here have said he doesn't.

Absolutely correct.  

Posted
2 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Absolutely correct.  

Assuming all the smoke about Buckner using is position to force the Woodson hire and then to keep him when he obviously wasn't up to the job is correct, it could be a political minefield to appoint him again. Re-appointing someone that abused his power? Not a good look.

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