They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Hoosier DaDa 3,811]

19 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

Do you honestly believe Woodson wants his legacy to be that he helped run our storied basketball program into the ground and that, as long as he’s well paid, he’s fine? Do you really not understand that he loves IU and all it did for him? Do you really not understand the same about Buckner, who’s been associated with the University for over 50 years? I get that people are disappointed that the program hasn’t elevated to a national level, but some of the stuff mentioned here is really outlandish and nonsensical. Woodson will either get things going or he’ll get pushed out. Why is that so difficult for people to comprehend?

Yes I think so.  If half of what HH podcast states is true, and hearing his true fan BS during senior day.  He is absolutely fleecing IU.  He is doing his job. 

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

8 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I think in some ways the “hire your own” hurdle was one we needed to cross.  Imo, it probably should have been Alford years ago, although?????  

 

Hope now it’s best talent available and one that is not scared of the size of the job.  We need an intellectual type coach.  Crean seemed to fit that but didn’t have NIL and was a bit odd and manic.  He was our closest chance of nailing it.  
 

I want a coach with confidence and some swager.  I think Dusty May was a really good candidate, of course.  I don’t think he’s a top 10 coach, but he may be a top 20 coach and will see if resources catapult him. 
 

I love Pearl but his age.  I really like the basketball from Beard but I’m not sure Indiana will be willing to go that route. 

I still think we fire MW now and hire Crean or Fife as the interim coach and then hire a coach like Dusty May or Pearl after the season.  With this roster, either Crean or Fife would do a much better job than MW

[Hoosier DaDa 3,811]

19 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

What’s yours 

Apparently Cathy's solution is status quo.

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Anyone going to the game tonight? Curious about the booing situation…

[KathywithaC 843]

57 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

No, based on what she has said, Dolson doesn’t have the authority to make hires. The Cig hire was a stakeholder decision, not his.

He has authority, but making that hire without consulting PW, QB and certain others within the University “family” just doesn’t happen. It works that way everywhere.

[KathywithaC 843]

53 minutes ago, mamasa said:

No, you're not sorry to disappoint. You enjoy swinging through here and putting your "it's just the way it is" posts out there as if we're supposed to take your word at face value. You enjoy acting as if you have knowledge that you're privy to dole as you see fit. 

It’s not my process but it’s the way things get done at IU. You’re obviously free to like it or not, but that doesn’t change any of that. Not sure why people are so offended by that.

[Capt. Crimson 3,983]

He has authority, but making that hire without consulting PW, QB and certain others within the University “family” just doesn’t happen. It works that way everywhere.

But was Cig “his guy”? Vs Woody who clearly wasn’t.


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3 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

It’s not my process but it’s the way things get done at IU. You’re obviously free to like it or not, but that doesn’t change any of that. Not sure why people are so offended by that.

Maybe because it has led to a quarter century of pitiful basketball? Just a shot in the dark though. 

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11 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I still think we fire MW now and hire Crean or Fife as the interim coach and then hire a coach like Dusty May or Pearl after the season.  With this roster, either Crean or Fife would do a much better job than MW

That could work. I think you should shoot that to Dolson in an email.

[Hoosier DaDa 3,811]

19 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

Let’s compare their year 4s.  Watshot or whatever we are seeing now. Hmmm

Not to mention he had to build up to year four with walkons.  Unlike Woody started with a all American. 

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10 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Anyone going to the game tonight? Curious about the booing situation…

My guess is no cheers, but few if any boos.  We're a bunch of nice Midwesterners.  Maybe I'm wrong.

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I appreciate the information KathywithaC is giving. We may not like it. It may not be what we want but, I believe she's telling the truth. 

[Hoosier DaDa 3,811]

19 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Thanks to the Dolson/Buckner extension, the buyout won't drop until March 31, 2026.

If we aren't going to save any money, FIRE HIM NOW!!!!

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2 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

If we aren't going to save any money, FIRE HIM NOW!!!!

Buyout is irrelevant. Purdue just fired a football coach they owe ~$10 million. I see no chance Woodson coaches here next season. 

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1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I think she is trying to show how the process works or has worked in the past. I have had a lot of private conversations with Cathy and I think were all on the same page, just have different views or ways to how to get there. She has been around this program for a long time as most of us had. 

The problem is, she lost the plot completely when she states things like Woodson was more prepared to run a college program than Archie, and saying things like: He's a better coach than Tom Crean ever was.  Both of those are patently false. And she is still trying to claim all she said in this thread is he isn't going to be fired right now.  

She is right about him not being fired this month; but her sprinkling of absurd Mike Woodson opinions combined with the grammar policing has led to where we are now.

[Chris007 62,616]

36 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Th fact people had to try and convince themselves Woodson could maybe work out told us all we needed to know. But at least the you gotta hire an iu guy crowd got it out of their system now.

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Fans had to try to convince themselves or the administration.  Dolson got to swing for Stevens. After he missed he was told by Buckner & Ferguson that Woody was the guy. 

[JSHoosier 22,265]

20 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

Do you honestly believe Woodson wants his legacy to be that he helped run our storied basketball program into the ground and that, as long as he’s well paid, he’s fine? Do you really not understand that he loves IU and all it did for him? Do you really not understand the same about Buckner, who’s been associated with the University for over 50 years? I get that people are disappointed that the program hasn’t elevated to a national level, but some of the stuff mentioned here is really outlandish and nonsensical. Woodson will either get things going or he’ll get pushed out. Why is that so difficult for people to comprehend?

I don't think that's what he wants, but that doesn't matter. For much of the fanbase today, and the students at IU now, Mike Woodson the player only exists in dusty old pictures. They only know Mike Woodson the coach, the nepotism hire, the guy no one else was wanted to be head coach because of how bad he was/is.

The longer he's on the sidelines the more ruined his legacy will be, I don't think anyone wants that but it doesn't matter because the people that remember the player are aging out.

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I hope Dolson is allowed to take a shot on multiple coaches this time if that’s the case. That’s not a real coaching search since the chances of Steven’s leaving was 1%

[Chris007 62,616]

25 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Anyone going to the game tonight? Curious about the booing situation…

Tonight's game is what my officiating partners and I like to call a friends and family night. If you're not a family member of a player or close friend your probably not going. It's cold and it's on TV. CFP is also on and we would rather watch that. 

[Napleshoosier 10,979]

20 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

No, he doesn’t work as hard as Cig, but that’s only one issue. You know who did? Tom Crean. You want him back?

You shoulda been here for the “Creaning” of Crean!  It was epic!  lol