Fire (or Force 'Contemplated Retirement') Coach Woodson Thread

[OKHOOSIER 3,664]

10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

^^This^^

Just because Woody has not been an effective head coach does not mean that Dane Fife is part of the solution for IU or anywhere else. I am not personally familiar with the dynamics, but the fact that no other program has brought Fife on board, while not dispositive, is very telling.

This was what I was thinking. A long time Izzo underling and supposed HC in waiting (although I’m not sure I believe that) hasn’t been hired? On the surface it looks like he either doesn’t wanna coach, or no one wants him. I’m sure it’s possible he doesn’t wanna leave Bloomington for his family or maybe even hoping for a job on the next staff, but it seems odd for a guy who people repeatedly say “wants to coach” selling insurance or whatever lol

[Chris007 48,639]

Just now, Hornsby said:

How do you figure fife has never told his side of the story. I know you hate him but there are two sides to every story.

 

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And you know I can't stand Woodson. He's told his side of the story to anyone who would listen. He has been on Indy radio multiple times in the last 3 years. He's done interviews with Mike Decouracy. 

And as I said earlier neither one of them can admit they made a mistake. Just because you don't like Woodson doesn't make Fife right

[Artie86 2,398]

38 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Woodson felt threatened by him. 

....thought that as well. I will go along and add that he most likely had the same feelings about Matta. Just my guess.

He doesn't want to be around people that he thinks is smarter/better coach than him. lol

[Chris007 48,639]

3 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

This was what I was thinking. A long time Izzo underling and supposed HC in waiting (although I’m not sure I believe that) hasn’t been hired? On the surface it looks like he either doesn’t wanna coach, or no one wants him. I’m sure it’s possible he doesn’t wanna leave Bloomington for his family or maybe even hoping for a job on the next staff, but it seems odd for a guy who people repeatedly say “wants to coach” selling insurance or whatever lol

Izzo was tired of his antics too. That is why when Izzo has had openings he hasn't considered bringing him back. 

[Golfman25 5,954]

52 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

If the new coach would want Fife on staff I'm fine with that, I think he can coach defense. I wouldn't want him around but that's just because I don't care for him as a person. I have never interacted with him where I didn't walk away thinking Man that guy thinks a lot of himself. I thought it was just how he was in college, but he was the same when he came back to Bloomington. Might just be me. 

I am looking for a coach, not a friend.  :) 

But I am neutral on Fife.   I just want dudes who can coach.  

[Hornsby 2,710]

And you know I can't stand Woodson. He's told his side of the story to anyone who would listen. He has been on Indy radio multiple times in the last 3 years. He's done interviews with Mike Decouracy. 
And as I said earlier neither one of them can admit they made a mistake. Just because you don't like Woodson doesn't make Fife right

I could care less about fife or where he coaches. I don't want him at iu or any former players at this point. But seeing what I've seen from Woodson I would not believe most anything he says. To me it seems he would throw anyone under the bus to protect his precious ego.

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[ap2345 9,032]

36 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not really. Your way off here. Stick with the other schtick 

The stuff was exaggerated. Both had issues but it was a bad fit from the start. Woodson didn't even know Fife was a former player.

[OKHOOSIER 3,664]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Izzo was tired of his antics too. That is why when Izzo has had openings he hasn't considered bringing him back. 

I remember reading some things about that on some MSU sites but wasn’t gonna speculate. Not surprised. 

[ap2345 9,032]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Izzo was tired of his antics too. That is why when Izzo has had openings he hasn't considered bringing him back. 

Not sure that's accurate. 

[ap2345 9,032]

6 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

....thought that as well. I will go along and add that he most likely had the same feelings about Matta. Just my guess.

He doesn't want to be around people that he thinks is smarter/better coach than him. lol

Bingo

[cleeter 2,364]

15 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Brad's family might want to stay in Boston but when the right offer comes you move to Bloomington

but when the right *and last* offer comes you move to Bloomington

[Golfman25 5,954]

4 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I could care less about fife or where he coaches. I don't want him at iu or any former players at this point. But seeing what I've seen from Woodson I would not believe most anything he says. To me it seems he would throw anyone under the bus to protect his precious ego.

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You wouldn't want any of the "newer" players, say old man Zeller or Yogi, if they decided to get into coaching?  

[Golfman25 5,954]

4 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

The stuff was exaggerated. Both had issues but it was a bad fit from the start. Woodson didn't even know Fife was a former player.

Probably because he was looking for Dan Fife on the old rosters.  :)  

[Silat Player 726]

31 minutes ago, ziggyiu said:

I didn't read the Rabby hit piece, but I caught some of the fallout. I did read the Mike Decourcy fluff piece, and understand the intention behind it. 

Bottom line is Fife wants to coach. He didn't stop on his own accord. He has plenty of contacts in college basketball that know him well. If his personality wasn't an issue and if his basketball acumen was really valued (enough that other coaches could look past his personality) he'd be coaching. 

Some of the attributes that made him such a dogged,hardnosed defensive player in college don't translate to not being an arrogant person that's easy to get along with in his post-playing career. 

[Hornsby 2,710]

You wouldn't want any of the "newer" players, say old man Zeller or Yogi, if they decided to get into coaching?  

No not after Woodson. Maybe in development but not as assistants. We tried the former player and it was a fiasco

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[Artie86 2,398]

15 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Izzo was We are all tired of Woodson's antics too. That is why when Izzo Dolson fires Woodson has had there will be an openings and he hasn't DEFINITELY won't considered bringing him back. 

...lol I had some fun playing with your post! I fixed it! lol

[Hornsby 2,710]

I am getting excited to have many cocktails and watch the king prowl the sidelines tomorrow. That black out doesn't know what's about to hit them.

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36 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

....thought that as well. I will go along and add that he most likely had the same feelings about Matta. Just my guess.

He doesn't want to be around people that he thinks is smarter/better coach than him. lol

Based upon what I have seen, almost anyone is a smarter/better coach than Moron Mike! 

[Scotty R 2,513]

Whoever the new coach is has to be better at PR and Indiana has to make their coaches more accessible to the local media in Indy. So far this college basketball season I have heard interviews with a lot of different coaches but none from IU. Off the top of my head these are the coaches I have heard.

Painter PU

Lewis BSU

Matta Butler 

Underwood UI

Ben Johnson Minnesota 

May UM

Izzo MSU

[go iu bb 7,061]

1 hour ago, ap2345 said:

The stuff was exaggerated. Both had issues but it was a bad fit from the start. Woodson didn't even know Fife was a former player.

If true, that just shows how much Woodson "loves" IU basketball. He didn't even keep up with what was happening in the program.