Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[AH1971 1,698]

8 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

This board is in for a rude awakening 6 or so weeks from now despite what you’ve been told for months by the self-proclaimed important people on this board. When May signs that extension with Michigan and Stevens turns us down (again), going to have to pivot fast. You’re talking guys like Ben McCollum, Bucky McMillan, Josh Schertz, etc who are complete crapshoots as next tier candidates. Give me Will Wade over those three in a heartbeat, assuming someone else doesn’t beat us to the punch.

[RaceToTheTop 26,792]

15 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Big East is part of the Power 5 in Basketball and he has done a heck of a job at Creighton.  His work at Creighton overshadows his failures at Iowa st.  Just my opinion 

My apologies....my old brain still thinks of Creighton in the MVC.

[BBTB 28]

Looking at the top 25 poll  all I wonder is how did a football conference ( how I think of the SEC )  become a basketball conference now looking through there are 10 from the SEC while the B10  has only 5  not sure why we cannot get better at basketball 

[str8baller 5,756]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Actually I just found a better source on Shaka - Marquette's tax filings. So he was about at $3 million  last year. I'd imagine after the year he had last year he's at about $3.5 million:

Shaka’s salary

While Marquette is a private school and thus its inner financial workings not open to the public, it does have to release its 990 tax filings yearly, one of the only times we get to poke around behind the scenes. For our purposes, it also gives us an insight into what kind of financial figures Marquette’s basketball coaches are making, or made the previous season.

One of the questions I get every season is, how much does Marquette’s coach make, and how does that compare to what other coaches around D1 and the Big East make?

The answer to the first question is now, a base pay of $2,791,853 with bonuses of $154,000, for a total of just under $3million at $2,945,853. That’s up over 37% compared to 2022.

That’s what I found. Wisconsin has broad open gov laws.  Usps is right that they love their basketball program but they don’t have much else or a ton of cash—don’t even have their own stadium.  IU could outbid them but he’s a perfect fit there. I wouldn’t go for him or Buzz, personally. 
 

McDermont or maybe Devries (harder to outbid and also less accomplished) would be good pulls, among a couple others. 
 

But that should be IU’s floor. Sampson/Crean/Archie were all in that level or higher. Davis and Woody were terrible unforced errors. 

[Demo 20,625]

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

If Wade is hired the Hoosier in Uspshoosier will definitely come off on this forum.  It would be very hard for me to continue be invested in the program if he was ever hired 

100% and in a New York minute. I don’t need the next guy to be someone I want to have a beer with, but I refuse to be ashamed of them. Too many legit options to swallow that creep.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,523]

Just now, BBTB said:

Looking at the top 25 poll  all I wonder is how did a football conference ( how I think of the SEC )  become a basketball conference now looking through there are 10 from the SEC while the B10  has only 5  not sure why we cannot get better at basketball 

Well.. we are a big reason for that.

 

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

This board is in for a rude awakening 6 or so weeks from now despite what you’ve been told for months by the self-proclaimed important people on this board. When May signs that extension with Michigan and Stevens turns us down (again), going to have to pivot fast. You’re talking guys like Ben McCollum, Bucky McMillan, Josh Schertz, etc who are complete crapshoots as next tier candidates. Give me Will Wade over those three in a heartbeat, assuming someone else doesn’t beat us to the punch.

What's the point in trying to convince us of these things? you don't have a crystal ball, my guy, let it go. 

[RaceToTheTop 26,792]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

This board is in for a rude awakening 6 or so weeks from now despite what you’ve been told for months by the self-proclaimed important people on this board. When May signs that extension with Michigan and Stevens turns us down (again), going to have to pivot fast. You’re talking guys like Ben McCollum, Bucky McMillan, Josh Schertz, etc who are complete crapshoots as next tier candidates. Give me Will Wade over those three in a heartbeat, assuming someone else doesn’t beat us to the punch.

Yawn.  

Will Wade would 1000% be a pivot fast pick.  Wade's NIL at LSU before NIL was legal didn't exactly light the world on fire.

[AH1971 1,698]

Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Well.. we are a big reason for that.

 

What's the point in trying to convince us of these things? you don't have a crystal ball, my guy, let it go. 

Speaks volumes that you need to be convinced that a guy who has already turned down the job to the tune of 7 years $70 million is going to do it again lol. 

[AH1971 1,698]

2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Yawn.  

Will Wade would 1000% be a pivot fast pick.  Wade's NIL at LSU before NIL was legal didn't exactly light the world on fire.

He won damn near 70% of his games there including the SEC championship and finished 2nd and 3rd as well. All in a 5 year span. We're talking about LSU.

[Home Jersey 9,339]

Just now, AH1971 said:

Speaks volumes that you need to be convinced that a guy who has already turned down the job to the tune of 7 years $70 million is going to do it again lol. 

You claim not to be a self-important person, but you clearly think you are the smartest person in the room.

That poster knows the odds are a long shot, they're saying you will not change anyone's mind by saying we should stop talking about/hoping for them. People are going to hope, that's fine... doesn't call for a "rude awakening"

We're all going to have different preferences on our short lists... none of that matters.

Hopefully IU hires a real winner and things start looking different soon. 

[Chris007 46,874]

4 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Well.. we are a big reason for that.

 

What's the point in trying to convince us of these things? you don't have a crystal ball, my guy, let it go. 

I was told I was in for a rude awakening last spring when we signed these portal kids. We were going to the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 just wait. Now we are in for a rude awakening for when we don't get a big-time coach. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,523]

 

Just now, Home Jersey said:

You claim not to be a self-important person, but you clearly think you are the smartest person in the room.

That poster knows the odds are a long shot, they're saying you will not change anyone's mind by saying we should stop talking about/hoping for them. People are going to hope, that's fine... doesn't call for a "rude awakening"

We're all going to have different preferences on our short lists... none of that matters.

Hopefully IU hires a real winner and things start looking different soon. 

I can't believe someone needed that explained. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,523]

Just now, Chris007 said:

I was told I was in for a rude awakening last spring when we signed these portal kids. We were going to the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 just wait. Now we are in for a rude awakening for when we don't get a big-time coach. 

ohhh yeah, he's the same poster that defended Woodson lol .... eeeeeeeeesh. 

[Trish 11,878]

5 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

It's only six extra weeks to wait if that doesn't happen.

I'd very much prefer a 40 point IU win because Woody is gone at the end of the season anyway.

No thanks, I don't need any hope in the program, we have to make this nasty to expedite the process. 

[Artie86 2,276]

I think Dolson is going for the supposedly, untouchable, "All On Red" coach, Brad Stevens. I think we can establish that's been his master plan all along. Anyway you look at it, it's alot of words, "Sexy", "Grand Slam", "A+", etc.

It's hard to look past this possible situation. It's ok to dream big, because that's what Dolson is doing and will continue to do until Brad is, in fact, hired as IU's next coach or he says most emphatically, No!

I like where we're at, knowing that there's a chance, probably the best it has ever been. It also doesn't mean it will happen, but it definitely won't be without the best pitch and best fight of Dolson's career as IU's AD!

I think we are definitely in good hands now with Dolson and his intentions to find the best coach possible for IU. I didn't feel that way 4 years ago.

[Pagoda 1,208]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

ohhh yeah, he's the same poster that defended Woodson lol .... eeeeeeeeesh. 

Explains why he hates this thread and comes here to lash out at the posters in it.

[AH1971 1,698]

3 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

ohhh yeah, he's the same poster that defended Woodson lol .... eeeeeeeeesh. 

You defended Woodson all Summer and literally changed your handle because of it lol.

[AKHoosier 7,086]

Buzz Williams would be a yes for me. Never occurred to me to consider the possibility but he is a winner. Definitely a guy who gets it.

Although I will admit, the fit seems odd. I can't place it or articulate it, but something seems off about it.

[realTomCrean 1,691]

Just now, AKHoosier said:

Buzz Williams would be a yes for me. Never occurred to me to consider the possibility but he is a winner. Definitely a guy who gets it.

Although I will admit, the fit seems odd. I can't place it or articulate it, but something seems off about it.

AK has spoken. If we don't get Brad and Dusty, Buzz gets the nod. Smartest IU fan in the country! 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,523]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

You defended Woodson all Summer and literally changed your handle because of it lol.

You seem confused. I was happy with the talent our money could buy.