Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[IUrocker 2,167]

That HH podcast with Brian Evans was indeed a good listen. They are completely done with Woodson. In the words of the great Tom Crean, “you wrecked our program!” 
 

* Also just a heads up, anyone able to listen to the podcast, it starts with Brian Evans and talking about the program at the 30:45 mark. They go on and on for a while after that about different things that have happened behind the scenes and what is all going on that just goes to show Woody being the head of the basketball program is a freakin’ joke. 

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10 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Dare we say "smitten"?

Ha, ha, ha  we dare!!!

[KathywithaC 455]

On 11/30/2024 at 9:41 AM, Golfman25 said:

They only way they “fire” him during the season is if he “retires.”   It will be bad enough firing an alum who got us “back to the tournament” twice.  

The likelihood of him being fired during the season is remote, period. Were it to even be considered, it would be a March time frame unless, of course, there were transgressions (academic and / or legal issues) that occurred.  A bad week in the Bahamas was a concerning message that we aren’t where we need to be, but this isn’t even on SD’s radar right now.

That said, I can tell you that everyone understands we need to have a very good season or there will be changes. And while this remains a decision with multiple stakeholders involved, it’s my clear sense that there’s alignment on how the season needs to transpire for people to feel good about continuing forward with the status quo. 

I wouldn’t put too much stock in comparing hoops to football, but it’s well known that most days Cignetti goes to work in the dark and heads home in the dark, regardless of the time of year. He talks the talk, but he definitely walks the walk, and he expects the coaches and players to do so, as well. He’s also highly organized, efficient and purposeful in everything he does. Little wasted energy or effort, and a very clear sense of direction in all that goes on around the program. 

Not saying Mike isn’t any of those things, but when your results aren’t what you’d like, it’s probably not a bad idea to at least appear to be working really hard in an attempt to make things better, and maybe demonstrate a sense of urgency in your attitude and demeanor. I’ll leave it at that but can assure you people have noticed a difference, and it matters.

Will share more later.

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17 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

The likelihood of him being fired during the season is remote, period. Were it to even be considered, it would be a March time frame unless, of course, there were transgressions (academic and / or legal issues) that occurred.  A bad week in the Bahamas was a concerning message that we aren’t where we need to be, but this isn’t even on SD’s radar right now.

That said, I can tell you that everyone understands we need to have a very good season or there will be changes. And while this remains a decision with multiple stakeholders involved, it’s my clear sense that there’s alignment on how the season needs to transpire for people to feel good about continuing forward with the status quo. 

I wouldn’t put too much stock in comparing hoops to football, but it’s well known that most days Cignetti goes to work in the dark and heads home in the dark, regardless of the time of year. He talks the talk, but he definitely walks the walk, and he expects the coaches and players to do so, as well. He’s also highly organized, efficient and purposeful in everything he does. Little wasted energy or effort, and a very clear sense of direction in all that goes on around the program. 

Not saying Mike isn’t any of those things, but when your results aren’t what you’d like, it’s probably not a bad idea to at least appear to be working really hard in an attempt to make things better, and maybe demonstrate a sense of urgency in your attitude and demeanor. I’ll leave it at that but can assure you people have noticed a difference, and it matters.

Will share more later.

Really, not on SD’s radar?  They just sucked a$$ against quality competition.  They have no further quality competition until conference starts in a couple of weeks.   Anyone who expects a “good” season after that debacle is living a lie.  Sure I’ll be happy to be proven wrong, but I know what I saw.  This “committee” or whoever needs to get their head out of their butt.  

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9 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Really, not on SD’s radar?  They just sucked a$$ against quality competition.  They have no further quality competition until conference starts in a couple of weeks.   Anyone who expects a “good” season after that debacle is living a lie.  Sure I’ll be happy to be proven wrong, but I know what I saw.  This “committee” or whoever needs to get their head out of their butt.  

I agree. The Bahamas was the only real test (very weak non-conference slate) and we looked horrendous. This is a team of veteran, all-conference players and they got run off the court.

The recipe is faulty no matter how many times you try to rebake it

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28 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Really, not on SD’s radar?  They just sucked a$$ against quality competition.  They have no further quality competition until conference starts in a couple of weeks.   Anyone who expects a “good” season after that debacle is living a lie.  Sure I’ll be happy to be proven wrong, but I know what I saw.  This “committee” or whoever needs to get their head out of their butt.  

A job change is not on SD’s radar. I realize that’s frustrating for some, but that isn’t on the stove right now.

[go iu bb 5,637]

It's not surprising to hear that they're not thinking midseason firing. Woodson is getting paid regardless so let him wrack up the losses and show even his supporters that he deserves to get fired. I think by the end of the year the fan base will be as united as it can be that it's time for a new coach. Woodson year 4 by itself won't be good (especially compared to expectations after the offseason "win") but will look very bad when compared to CCC year 1.

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The likelihood of him being fired during the season is remote, period. Were it to even be considered, it would be a March time frame unless, of course, there were transgressions (academic and / or legal issues) that occurred.  A bad week in the Bahamas was a concerning message that we aren’t where we need to be, but this isn’t even on SD’s radar right now.
That said, I can tell you that everyone understands we need to have a very good season or there will be changes. And while this remains a decision with multiple stakeholders involved, it’s my clear sense that there’s alignment on how the season needs to transpire for people to feel good about continuing forward with the status quo. 
I wouldn’t put too much stock in comparing hoops to football, but it’s well known that most days Cignetti goes to work in the dark and heads home in the dark, regardless of the time of year. He talks the talk, but he definitely walks the walk, and he expects the coaches and players to do so, as well. He’s also highly organized, efficient and purposeful in everything he does. Little wasted energy or effort, and a very clear sense of direction in all that goes on around the program. 
Not saying Mike isn’t any of those things, but when your results aren’t what you’d like, it’s probably not a bad idea to at least appear to be working really hard in an attempt to make things better, and maybe demonstrate a sense of urgency in your attitude and demeanor. I’ll leave it at that but can assure you people have noticed a difference, and it matters.
Will share more later.

So may be time to break out the fire scott dolson thread even though he did such a good job with football. We can't continue on this way in basketball!

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Him not being coach before the end of the season was always going to be a pipe dream anyway, barring something scandalous. Mike’s gonna get his four years. Stakeholders said so. We’ll waste this season and then be allowed to search for a legitimate candidate, hopefully. Can live with it if we make a Cignetti like hire. 

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59 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Really, not on SD’s radar?  They just sucked a$$ against quality competition.  They have no further quality competition until conference starts in a couple of weeks.   Anyone who expects a “good” season after that debacle is living a lie.  Sure I’ll be happy to be proven wrong, but I know what I saw.  This “committee” or whoever needs to get their head out of their butt.  

If a change still isn't on Dolson's radar after Mike Woodson has yet again shown bad bad he is at his job, then it just shows they really are not serious about the basketball program.

We already knew that, nothing screams not serious like hiring a guy simply because he played there, but just further evidence that there are other very serious problems when it comes to IUBB.

[ap2345 7,599]

1 hour ago, KathywithaC said:

The likelihood of him being fired during the season is remote, period. Were it to even be considered, it would be a March time frame unless, of course, there were transgressions (academic and / or legal issues) that occurred.  A bad week in the Bahamas was a concerning message that we aren’t where we need to be, but this isn’t even on SD’s radar right now.

That said, I can tell you that everyone understands we need to have a very good season or there will be changes. And while this remains a decision with multiple stakeholders involved, it’s my clear sense that there’s alignment on how the season needs to transpire for people to feel good about continuing forward with the status quo. 

I wouldn’t put too much stock in comparing hoops to football, but it’s well known that most days Cignetti goes to work in the dark and heads home in the dark, regardless of the time of year. He talks the talk, but he definitely walks the walk, and he expects the coaches and players to do so, as well. He’s also highly organized, efficient and purposeful in everything he does. Little wasted energy or effort, and a very clear sense of direction in all that goes on around the program. 

Not saying Mike isn’t any of those things, but when your results aren’t what you’d like, it’s probably not a bad idea to at least appear to be working really hard in an attempt to make things better, and maybe demonstrate a sense of urgency in your attitude and demeanor. I’ll leave it at that but can assure you people have noticed a difference, and it matters.

Will share more later.

What do you have to say about the altercation that took place in the past between Woodson and Ya that took place in the past? How close was that to being a bigger issue? Sounds like it was close to becoming physical with punches being thrown. 

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9 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

If a change still isn't on Dolson's radar after Mike Woodson has yet again shown bad bad he is at his job, then it just shows they really are not serious about the basketball program.

We already knew that, nothing screams not serious like hiring a guy simply because he played there, but just further evidence that there are other very serious problems when it comes to IUBB.

Note: saying that a change isn't currently on Dolson's radar is very, very different that saying that a change as soon as this year is over isn't on his radar.

To summarize? A change as soon as this season is over will be the far and away #1 thing on Dolson's radar. And preparing for that change will become very important for Dolson starting in the late winter.

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22 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Him not being coach before the end of the season was always going to be a pipe dream anyway, barring something scandalous. Mike’s gonna get his four years. Stakeholders said so. We’ll waste this season and then be allowed to search for a legitimate candidate, hopefully. Can live with it if we make a Cignetti like hire. 

Not saying it couldn’t happen but it’s not happening now, or really any time before the conference season has a chance to fully develop. There is a deliberate pace that governs here, and they aren’t going to deviate from it. We’re going to play in the College Football Playoff, and that’s going to have everyone’s attention for the next few weeks. January through March will be the time for SD and others to focus on the basketball program. The hill will be steep but the financial support isn’t wavering yet. This remains a decision based on recommendations and consensus among several people, and there isn’t any momentum away from Mike right now.

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1 hour ago, MikeRoberts said:

I agree. The Bahamas was the only real test (very weak non-conference slate) and we looked horrendous. This is a team of veteran, all-conference players and they got run off the court.

The recipe is faulty no matter how many times you try to rebake it

The worst part is that this season's schedule appears to have been crafted specifically to make MMW look good... and so far, he's failed at the only challenging part... at least this year his team is beating up on the cupcakes better than last year... no doubt due to talent, because I've still not seen anything in his attitude or demeanor that would indicate that it's coaching that's effected the change.

IMO, it darn well better be "on SD's radar".

 

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18 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

What do you have to say about the altercation that took place in the past between Woodson and Ya that took place in the past? How close was that to being a bigger issue? Sounds like it was close to becoming physical with punches being thrown. 

Scott Dolson was a basketball manager during the Knight era . . . “Bigger issues” happened away from the limelight with some regularity. The Woody - Ya thing was Square Dancing during Gym Class.

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What about when Nebraska blows us out next Friday lol 

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27 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

What do you have to say about the altercation that took place in the past between Woodson and Ya that took place in the past? How close was that to being a bigger issue? Sounds like it was close to becoming physical with punches being thrown. 

Did Ya make Woodson late for a tee time? Hard to imagine Sleepy Mike having the energy to fight someone. 

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9 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

What about when Nebraska blows us out next Friday lol 

You laugh, but that game really scares me.  We are coming off of three straight losses to them.  

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6 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

You laugh, but that game really scares me.  We are coming off of three straight losses to them.  

I was being dead serious haha

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7 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

You laugh, but that game really scares me.  We are coming off of three straight losses to them.  

I think it scares all of us. I think the original poster knows Nebraska is capable of beating us.