Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Hornsby 2,623]

They got caught watching the paint dry.

A ol they sure did. Rice wasn't even sure a play was called

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[Hornsby 2,623]

They got caught watching the paint dry.

A ol they sure did. Rice wasn't even sure a play was called

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[Asha’man 61]

I think KathywithaC is correct that he isn’t getting fired mid season, for now. I think a lot of fans are projecting a tire fire because of the games coming up. But they aren’t losses yet. Lose the next 4-5 games and then things might change quickly. But as of now he still has a path to a tournament birth. IU won’t fire a coach on this position. Let Woodson fail on his own terms. No need to rush a firing until it’s good enough for the big boosters. Their money is needed for future recruiting for both football and basketball. 

[Hornsby 2,623]

They got caught watching the paint dry.

We're gonna run the picket fence at 'em! Malik, you're the swing man. Miles, you're solo right! Alright, Miles should be open swingin' around the end of that fence! Now, boys, don't get caught watchin' the paint dry!" #

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[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,581]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

TKR never left a 29-6 Big Ten champion Purdue's rotation.  Bryson Tucker has and it's a team has Anthony.Leal. in the rotation.

Your thought that Bryson Tucker 'should be redshirting' is absurd.  No one is redshirting' McDonald's AA's unless there is just that much immense talent above them.

No. TKRs FR year he RS. He was ranked 44th in his class... 

Sorry my opinion is "let's do what's best for the kid"

Bryson should be kept and developed. There's a lot there to work with. 

[ziggyiu 632]

@KathywithaC - Is the athletic department working with the men's basketball program on how to handle negative fan reactions, like chants of "Fire Wiodson"? 

Surely the powers that be are aware of the fan displeasure, how it's manifesting itself, and the negative impact it has on the program.

I'm not surprised to learn a change will not be made during the season, and based on how quickly things move after the season one must surmise that the athletic department, the president, board, donors and other stakeholders are already in conversations about how to move forward in March. 

Would you say this is accurate? Nothing official being done, but conversations among this group and research being conducted now to move quickly when it's time to be official.

[RaceToTheTop 27,071]

2 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

Weren’t we told he’d already coached his last home game, even though that wasn’t in any way accurate?

Weren't already told by you that no 'group think' occurs when you operate under an idea of 'consensus thinking'?

Sorry, KathywithoutaClue, but I for one don't buy your BS.

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1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

@ap2345 We need to take our info to DM's since we give so many people bad info. We might as well include @JerryYeagley23too. Then people like Scotty and AH 1925, and Cathy don't have to read it.

 

[RaceToTheTop 27,071]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

No. TKRs FR year he RS. He was ranked 44th in his class... 

Sorry my opinion is "let's do what's best for the kid"

Bryson should be kept and developed. There's a lot there to work with. 

You can't just 'keep' a player in today's day where they can freely transfer.

Your opinion of 'let's do what's best for the kid' doesn't mean the kid or the parent agrees with that.  And the truth is that I do not think what is best for Bryson Tucker is for him to redshirt, particularly if his plans are not to play college basketball for four years.  If we wanted what was best for the kid, then I would have told him to go somewhere else where he could have received actual coaching.  What exactly would a redshirt have done for him this year when he would have been learning under the same non-coaching?

[Mr. Hoosier Pride 706]

2 minutes ago, Asha’man said:

I think KathywithaC is correct that he isn’t getting fired mid season, for now. I think a lot of fans are projecting a tire fire because of the games coming up. But they aren’t losses yet. Lose the next 4-5 games and then things might change quickly. But as of now he still has a path to a tournament birth. IU won’t fire a coach on this position. Let Woodson fail on his own terms. No need to rush a firing until it’s good enough for the big boosters. Their money is needed for future recruiting for both football and basketball. 

at this point it's not JUST about the losses.....the team is a cancer. Before you come at me with "were you there?" comments. No I wasn't. But I trust  the info I've heard on this board and outside this board that tells me this program is imploding on itself and it starts at the top.  If it were just about the losses, sure, let it play out.  The issue goes deeper than that and it's coming to a head with fans booing their team.  You can argue if that's petty or not but it's happening....

It's not just about losses anymore, it's about removing the issue, monitoring the interim to ensure that crap isn't happening any longer and start fixing the culture of IU Basketball.  

[AH1971 1,890]

22 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Nonsense. Historically inaccurate  that only can exist on the back of semantics.   
 

Just because I like to be entertained I would love to hear you and scottR and AH explain to me how Sampsons resignation was a “firing” but  Davis’ wasn’t and was a true “resignation.”  
 

Oh I remember now…Davis wanted to let his adoring fans at IU down easy as he climbed the coaching ranks to take on the All Time Great Blazers of UAB!!!  Thanks for the early notice, Mike! 
 

Whatever happened to that Davis character? The way he left here successfully, clearly using the IU job as a stepping stone, he’s gotta be coaching the Lakers by now. Maybe even the Olympic team! 

 

Sampson was given the option to resign in exchange that he wouldn't later sue the university and Davis was given the option to resign cordially or be fired at the end of the season...the same option that likely exists for Woodson. 

Knight and Sampson were fired/forced to resign due extenuating circumstances while Davis, Crean, and Archie were allowed to coach until the end of the season. Not sure why you'd think it'd be any different for Woodson unless extenuating circumstances permit otherwise.... which obviously don't exist. Losing a bunch of games isn't a for-cause termination like violating a zero tolerance policy or committing several level 1 NCAA violations.

Pretty straightforward. 

[AH1971 1,890]

7 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

No. TKRs FR year he RS. He was ranked 44th in his class... 

Sorry my opinion is "let's do what's best for the kid"

Bryson should be kept and developed. There's a lot there to work with. 

Should be at the new coach's discretion and his discretion only. 

Sounds like Tucker and his crew already have one foot out of the door anyway. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,581]

1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

You can't just 'keep' a player in today's day where they can freely transfer.

Your opinion of 'let's do what's best for the kid' doesn't mean the kid or the parent agrees with that.  And the truth is that I do not think what is best for Bryson Tucker is for him to redshirt, particularly if his plans are not to play college basketball for four years.  If we wanted what was best for the kid, then I would have told him to go somewhere else where he could have received actual coaching.  What exactly would a redshirt have done for him this year when he would have been learning under the same non-coaching?

Sure you can. Cignetti is doing it. 

You're asking me to explain Woodson and staffs stupidity? Nahh. Not interested in that. 

Tucker should have been RS, weight training, etc etc... continued development on his lead guard skills, PG/scorer on the scout team, run offense through him in practice.. that's where you start with Tucker. 

Smart parents are always fine with the correct plan for their kid. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,581]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Should be at the new coach's discretion and his discretion only. 

Sounds like Tucker and his crew already have one foot out of the door anyway. 

What did you tell me here that I didn't already know? Thank you, Captain Obvious. 

[RaceToTheTop 27,071]

1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

She is not ending speculation of that at all.

She is antagonizing people frustrated by bad basketball through her dripping condescension about processes and stakeholders, lol. 

The people on this board would be in a tizzy and want him removed mid-season regardless of what any posters here write. We have multiple blow out losses under Woodson every year. People didn't even want him to get a 4th year, of course they're going to want him gone before it's over. Coming here to say that's not going to happen isn't a revelation, it's just a reminder to not care too much about IUBB, because they're currently not a serious organization. 

Yeah, Kathy is likely a big sweaty dude meticulously typing as if they are someone they aren't knowing something they don't.  Might as well be ChatGTP.

[RaceToTheTop 27,071]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Sure you can. Cignetti is doing it. 

You're asking me to explain Woodson and staffs stupidity? Nahh. Not interested in that. 

Tucker should have been RS, weight training, etc etc... continued development on his lead guard skills, PG/scorer on the scout team, run offense through him in practice.. that's where you start with Tucker. 

Smart parents are always fine with the correct plan for their kid. 

Are you seriously comparing the redshirting of a football player to a basketball player (a burger boy to boot)?

Dude, it's the norm for football player's to redshirt.

There was a 0% chance that Bryson Tucker was going to go somewhere to redshirt.  The fact that his parents are complaining about playing time makes that obvious.

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52 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Most coaches talked a mid court before tip off but didn't shake hands after the game. Believe what you want but I witnessed those games.

Well, Goode must not have participated in those same games you have witnessed and so astutely mentally noted the lack of a hand shake line on the occasion that such an accused breach of etiquette becomes a topic of debate.

[AH1971 1,890]

4 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

What did you tell me here that I didn't already know? Thank you, Captain Obvious. 

You are welcome sir

Tucker will be in the portal within 48 hours of the season effing by the way.

[Home Jersey 9,816]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Tucker should have been RS, weight training, etc etc... continued development on his lead guard skills, PG/scorer on the scout team, run offense through him in practice.. that's where you start with Tucker. 

Smart parents are always fine with the correct plan for their kid. 

I can only imagine how that in home recruiting visit with a 5 star previously committed to go to the G League would go. Wonder how quickly they’d usher a coach out of the house after suggesting a redshirt in 2024/2025 lol. Smart parents are always fine with the correct plan for their kid… sure… good luck convincing the parents of high profile 5 star talent kids that redshirting is part of their correct plan. Most parents don’t have a clue what the correct plan is, see Mgbako family. The correct plan for Tucker includes an entirely different offensive system and a lot of development on outside shooting among other things. He can stay or go, don’t really care one way or another as long as it means a new coach. 

[coonhounds 9,585]

Might be a good idea. Keep the trolls from complaining.

No. Then they trolls win and that can never happen!

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