Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Hornsby 2,263]

The way Indiana has been run the last 25 years, squeaking in the tournament as the very last team and losing by 40 would get him year 5 and maybe an extension.
IU has been so incompetently run it's hard for me to get hopes up they'll so the right thing at this point.

Still not understanding where people are getting he is gone no matter what. I think what you say really could happy. I don't care of dolson hired cig that means nothing regarding woodson.

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[JSHoosier 20,479]

Just now, Hornsby said:

Still not understanding where people are getting he is gone no matter what. I think what you say really could happy. I don't care of dolson hired cig that means nothing regarding woodson.

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IUBB has been so horribly mismanaged the last 25 years that'd it's kind of impressive, you almost have to try to be that awful.

[TTT 1,029]

Coach:  My NIL is better than The Ohio State NIL

[68Hoosier 654]

Good morning fellow Hoosiers.  So, I had high hopes that this weekend would be the start of something new, but with a 1pt OT win now I'm not so sure.  It is sad that I was hoping for a loss, but I found myself not watching the game and checking the score to see if this game would help move us in the direction of a new coach.  They are just not fun to watch anymore.  Even when we had bad teams (first 2 or 3 years under Crean) I was still invested 100%.  I have lost my interest after 44 years of being a diehard fan.  Please tell me there is hope still that we take sports seriously and that we will do the right thing soon.

[coonhounds 9,311]

Good morning fellow Hoosiers.  So, I had high hopes that this weekend would be the start of something new, but with a 1pt OT win now I'm not so sure.  It is sad that I was hoping for a loss, but I found myself not watching the game and checking the score to see if this game would help move us in the direction of a new coach.  They are just not fun to watch anymore.  Even when we had bad teams (first 2 or 3 years under Crean) I was still invested 100%.  I have lost my interest after 44 years of being a diehard fan.  Please tell me there is hope still that we take sports seriously and that we will do the right thing soon.

Imo last night clearly didn't help but also if any type of decision has been made should not have hurt much. It was a fun game to watch but far from a good performance. The bad news is if you were reading on here yesterday I think it is probably not true we talked or offered the job to anyone as interim coach. Imo that is something you do after you have fired or retired woodson. I believe meetings have probably happened to talk about what should be done because of how dire the situation we are in. The kids gave effort made some shots and ohio state made some shots. Both teams made mistakes and in the end iu survived letting ohio state have to opportunity at a buzzer beater to win in regulation and ot after leading by 10 with 3.40 to go. We won a virtual coin flip and didn't do anything to show that is sustainable long term. If any decisions were made and they look at last night and think we're good now they are really dumb. That said I believe all eyes will be on north western game cause results matter and if we win i can then see them trying to stick with him and I believe the fans at assembly hall will be OK. I hope the administration knows though when the wheels inevitably come off and they choose that route the illinois game won't be the last ugly scene at assembly hall imo and may seem tame in comparison

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[AKHoosier 7,058]

I was so hopeful this weekend would bring us news we all want, but now I'm faced mediocrity has been saved once again. 

I'm calling it now. A 3 game win streak started last night. 

He won't go anywhere anytime soon. 

[coonhounds 9,311]

I was so hopeful this weekend would bring us news we all want, but now I'm faced mediocrity has been saved once again. 
I'm calling it now. A 3 game win streak started last night. 
He won't go anywhere anytime soon. 

Well it has been woodsons thing to win a few games when all is lost. Did you watch the game? I would still wait and see what happens at northwestern. Absolutely nothing happened last night that leads me to believe anything has changed performance wise. I think like leal said we need to chill

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[WeeDerkaNaut 247]

2 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

The way Indiana has been run the last 25 years, squeaking in the tournament as the very last team and losing by 40 would get him year 5 and maybe an extension.

IU has been so incompetently run it's hard for me to get hopes up they'll so the right thing at this point.

That's a completely fair assessment, I'm just hoping QB really is a lame duck at this point so Pam and Scott can do what's best for the program and get us a new HC.

[68Hoosier 654]

6 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

I was so hopeful this weekend would bring us news we all want, but now I'm faced mediocrity has been saved once again. 

I'm calling it now. A 3 game win streak started last night. 

He won't go anywhere anytime soon. 

Just enough to keep us in Mediocracy land. Scrape by against the bottom to middle half and get destroyed by the good teams. 

[coonhounds 9,311]

Let's discuss the master class the staff is doing with bako shall we? The kid came in as a freshman and had a slow start i will admit but then became a pretty good scorer and player for us last season. He started this season as our best shooter. The point is in a year in a half the staff has taken our best player and virtually made him unplayable by mid season. In s year and a half nobody can get him to play respectable defense? How often does a star player just fade away to the bench in year 2?

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[68Hoosier 654]

2 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Let's discuss the master class the staff is doing with bako shall we? The kid came in as a freshman and had a slow start i will admit but then became a pretty good scorer and player for us last season. He started this season as our best shooter. The point is in a year in a half the staff has taken our best player and virtually made him unplayable by mid season. In s year and a half nobody can get him to play respectable defense? How often does a star player just fade away to the bench in year 2?

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I think some of that is on him.  Athletes with high motors and drive to excel typically don't respond like he is.  He seems very lazy with no real energy.  I watched him early on and he has no motor on defense and only stands in the corner waiting to shoot on offense.  Is that on the coaching staff, yes for leaving him in the game and not letting him know it is not acceptable.  Is it on him to get his mind ready to play yes.  So, I see both being the issue here.  Some kids will respond to coaching some wont.  Some kids don't need a coach to motivate them and some do.  In his case I think it is both.  

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,703]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

Coach:  My NIL is better than The Ohio State NIL

Not by a ton. Diebler not getting it done

[bodsbums 79]

Two things are true:

I am happy that we won the game last night. I will always cheer for my team.

Mike Woodson is still a terrible coach and should be fired. 
 

People thinking last night changes anything with the fundamental problems with IU basketball or Mike Woodson as a coach are just giving a “visceral” response as the infamous Kathy likes to say. A data based assessment on a 4 year body of work makes it clear that he must go. 

[coonhounds 9,311]

I think some of that is on him.  Athletes with high motors and drive to excel typically don't respond like he is.  He seems very lazy with no real energy.  I watched him early on and he has no motor on defense and only stands in the corner waiting to shoot on offense.  Is that on the coaching staff, yes for leaving him in the game and not letting him know it is not acceptable.  Is it on him to get his mind ready to play yes.  So, I see both being the issue here.  Some kids will respond to coaching some wont.  Some kids don't need a coach to motivate them and some do.  In his case I think it is both.  

I think the coaches have failed him. The good news is he has found the bench and will probably remain it appears so we got that going

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[68Hoosier 654]

2 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I think the coaches have failed him. The good news is he has found the bench and will probably remain it appears so we got that going

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Agreed the coaching has failed him.  They have awarded him for too long for poor performance.

[str8baller 5,530]

24 minutes ago, bodsbums said:

People thinking last night changes anything with the fundamental problems with IU basketball or Mike Woodson as a coach are just giving a “visceral” response as the infamous Kathy likes to say. A data based assessment on a 4 year body of work makes it clear that he must go. 

Of course. But it is a testament to social media and our own little bubble we live in that this thread had many of us convinced that if only IU dropped the next couple games Woody would be gone forever and tier-1 coaches would be fighting for the job.  
 

I’m sure it was most likely always going to play out to the end. Dolson has all the data he needs to make a decision. And if it doesn’t happen…welp, that’s IU for ya.  
 

 

 

 

(please tho…fire mike Woodson). 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,736]

IMO if Calbert had ever desired a head coaching position I think he'd have already been one somewhere.  Also, I don't think he'd accept the job knowing he was replacing his very close friend who was axed.

[Juwan Moye 347]

37 minutes ago, bodsbums said:

Two things are true:

I am happy that we won the game last night. I will always cheer for my team.

Mike Woodson is still a terrible coach and should be fired. 
 

People thinking last night changes anything with the fundamental problems with IU basketball or Mike Woodson as a coach are just giving a “visceral” response as the infamous Kathy likes to say. A data based assessment on a 4 year body of work makes it clear that he must go. 

Sums up my thoughts as well.

[Pagoda 993]

8 hours ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

https://x.com/thestateofbball/status/1880449594829717790?s=46

Ooof.  This is cringey.  Just stay home dude.

[Pagoda 993]

1 hour ago, 68Hoosier said:

Just enough to keep us in Mediocracy land. Scrape by against the bottom to middle half and get destroyed by the good teams. 

The zone of pain.

That win last night probably significantly reduces whatever chance there was at a midseason change.  Woody has demonstrated he can still win games with this team, and while that's a depressingly low bar, it is enough to avoid getting replaced midseason.  This is not enough of a meltdown to replace him.  The next two games are not too hard either.