Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[AZ Hoosier 7,539]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I will say I'm pleasantly surprised to hear of the conversations that have and are taking place last night and this morning in the athletic department. 

[AZ Hoosier 7,539]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Which 'one of our own' is even viable?

• Lewis is about to have his second straight losing season at Ball State,
• Fife has been out of coaching for three years and left on less than great terms,
• Alford is 60 and Nevada has been crap two of the past four years

... and I can't even think of another IU one of our own college basketball ready coach other than those three.

Dusty

[Home Jersey 8,444]

3 minutes ago, maharkn said:

I don't think he should make it to the end of the season.  Need to go ahead and hand the keys off to someone lse for the rest of the season.  

I get it… makes no difference ultimately IMO but they do need to announce that a change will happen at some point to avoid toxicity boiling over and escalating beyond the ugliness we saw yesterday. If they don’t make it clear a change is coming soon, yesterday was as gentle as it’ll ever be

[AZ Hoosier 7,539]

1 hour ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Do you have a thing about pimps and marijuana?  Or sacks of cash?  Or impermissible phone calls?  Or going to class?  Or rules?  We don't need no stinkin' rules! 

Today it is all about money, and/or power, and/or sex, and/or entertainment and diversion from the reality that we are free to choose.  As a human being...that is a tough responsibility that few can handle well.  

But, hey...I got sidetracked.  Sorry.

Well, marijuana is legal in much of the country. Sacks of cash is also legal now, as are phone calls (and texts)...

However, I acknowledge your point.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,364]

Next 2 games are on the road so there won't be crowd chants and people emptying the stands like they were headed to a free all-you-can-eat buffet with an open bar.  After Friday night's game there's a 5-day break before we're at NW and then a 4-day break before we're back home against MD.  I'm not necessarily of the opinion a termination will happen before Friday, but if there will be one, it will be before the MD game on the 26th back in SSAH.

[Chris007 44,915]

13 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Debbie Downer enters the chat.  

Not to bring the room down, but the math to 10 wins and the tournament bubble still works (regardless of the crap play we saw last night).  The Penn State win allows us to lose IL.  So we are now even.  Have to will all remaining home games.   However, Ohio state, Northwestern and Washington all look beatable on the road as well -- so there is still room for some trade offs.  It is what it is.  

Now back to -- Fire Mike Woodson.   :)    

[KathywithaC 583]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I'm not even sure that Bruce is on the list any longer. He's allowed to do whatever he wants at Auburn and his son might take over for him one day. 

I don’t believe he’s ever been on anyone’s list, including Dolson’s. He’s a nice guy and I know he’s reached out to IU previously, but several things would need to change if he were to be considered if / when we have an opening at the end of the season.

[AZ Hoosier 7,539]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I'm hearing it is at least being discussed

Even today, it cannot come soon enough...

[Kentuckysucks 2,362]

3 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I don’t believe he’s ever been on anyone’s list, including Dolson’s. He’s a nice guy and I know he’s reached out to IU previously, but several things would need to change if he were to be considered if / when we have an opening at the end of the season.

What would need to change?  Our administration?

Pearl is too old now btw.  Beard would be a grand slam.  I fully expect the administration to roll the dice on someone unproven once again.  They never learn.

[Chris007 44,915]

2 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I don’t believe he’s ever been on anyone’s list, including Dolson’s. He’s a nice guy and I know he’s reached out to IU previously, but several things would need to change if he were to be considered if / when we have an opening at the end of the season.

I'm sorry but maybe you are getting left out of the conversations but there is no if/when. It's when. Everyone involved knows that. Barring a miracle final four run it's over. We probably won't even make the tournament unless there is a miracle

[IUFAN1976 3,410]

59 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Probably got answered, but allegedly choked his significant other. There’s also a pile of internet rumors about his drinking habits in Lubbock and Austin. While I don’t subscribe to assigning guilt arbitrarily, in my experience (work closely with state and federal police), this type of stuff does not happen in a vacuum. If DV has progressed to police interaction, it most likely has gone much further. He is HARD NO from me. 
 

Now, non-violent financial/recruiting/paying players types of violations? My morality stops lol and could not care less. 

Gotcha!  I think he’s a good coach but if that did actually happen, then NO for many of us.  I am still in the you are innocent until proven guilty but there must have been a reason the police got involved 

[Papacap 523]

I kinda understand why IU won’t fire him mid-season but I also love the fact that the power brokers have to sit there and watch fans boo and social media make fun of what has become a laughingstock of a program. All because of piss poor decisions they made. Every boo and fire Woodson chant is a direct reflection on them. 

[KathywithaC 583]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I will say I'm pleasantly surprised to hear of the conversations that have and are taking place last night and this morning in the athletic department. 

I think you and others are going to continue to be disappointed if you believe we’re moving on Woodson before the season concludes. Not sure what conversations you’ve heard about since we lost to Illinois, but these aren’t people and this isn’t a culture prone to knee jerk decisions and actions. I know there are some restless people who are talking about “where do we go from here” (this is a direct quote), but it’s not a January action item. 

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15 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Debbie Downer enters the chat.  

Not to bring the room down, but the math to 10 wins and the tournament bubble still works (regardless of the crap play we saw last night).  The Penn State win allows us to lose IL.  So we are now even.  Have to will all remaining home games.   However, Ohio state, Northwestern and Washington all look beatable on the road as well -- so there is still room for some trade offs.  It is what it is.  

Now back to -- Fire Mike Woodson.   :)    

Not going to happen. 

- They're not going to get to 10 wins. 

- Even if they  do, I think the losses have been so bad they still don't make the tournament.

- Even if that happens, Woodson has lost the support of fans. It was known last year that he was losing fans. Now they're chanting for him to be fired. He's greatly underperformed with a $6M NIL budget.

I just don't see any way he's back next year, barring some miracle run, both in the regular season and into the tournament. Even then, they'd have to think long and hard about bringing him back. This won't happen though because it appears that most in the program have thrown in the towel and given up on the season, from the HC down. There just doesn't seem to be any effort.

[LamarCheeks 19,399]

My mom always taught me to clean up any mess I made. 

In that vein, I have the perfect candidate to take over should we make a midseason move (though my guess is we won't). 

He's an IU grad, former IU player and has has coaching experience. 

Let ol' Quinn get in the trenches and take some heat for the mess he has wrought!!!

[AZ Hoosier 7,539]

52 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Fwiw his buyout is set and negotiated in his contract — he gets his whole remaining contract paid out $1M/yr.  Remaining contract is about $8.4M at the end of this season.

That said, they could agree to a smaller amount paid out sooner.  Regardless, IU knows what they owe Woody.

While what you say is absolutely true, it's also true that everything is negotiable... how badly does Woodson want to salvage his reputation? Of course, we're also dealing with his massive ego... but, again, everything is negotiable.

[KathywithaC 583]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm sorry but maybe you are getting left out of the conversations but there is no if/when. It's when. Everyone involved knows that. Barring a miracle final four run it's over. We probably won't even make the tournament unless there is a miracle

Oh, I think it will be nearly impossible for Woodson to remain as coach once the season ends, but those conversations aren’t as recent as last evening or this morning. Just wanted to be sure you understood the time frame, which is extremely unlikely to change. Glad to clarify and update this for you.

[Papacap 523]

2 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I think you and others are going to continue to be disappointed if you believe we’re moving on Woodson before the season concludes. Not sure what conversations you’ve heard about since we lost to Illinois, but these aren’t people and this isn’t a culture prone to knee jerk decisions and actions. I know there are some restless people who are talking about “where do we go from here” (this is a direct quote), but it’s not a January action item. 

The fact that someone thinks firing Woodson now is a knee jerk reaction to one loss shows just how badly our program is being run. 

[KathywithaC 583]

6 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

What would need to change?  Our administration?

Pearl is too old now btw.  Beard would be a grand slam.  I fully expect the administration to roll the dice on someone unproven once again.  They never learn.

Recent history leaves clues as to how this will proceed, including the why, how and when, as well as the who. 

[Pagoda 785]

2 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I think you and others are going to continue to be disappointed if you believe we’re moving on Woodson before the season concludes. Not sure what conversations you’ve heard about since we lost to Illinois, but these aren’t people and this isn’t a culture prone to knee jerk decisions and actions. I know there are some restless people who are talking about “where do we go from here” (this is a direct quote), but it’s not a January action item. 

The bball program led by your guys Quinn and Woody continues to be impressive!