Fire Coach Woodson (or contemplate retirement) Thread

[go iu bb 7,057]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Will Wade would be here tomorrow if offered the job. Can’t say that about Stevens.

The thing is, he won't be offered the job. So whether or not he'd accept is moot. Not a realistic candidate because he won't be an actual candidate.

[AH1971 1,900]

47 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

They are 364th out of 364 teams in adjusted tempo on Kenpom, and his system doesn't emphasize 3 pointers. It's just not a modern offense

While his teams may be very disciplined (i.e., the tempo is due to working the ball around until they get a great shot), I don't see elite athletes wanting to play here with him as the coach. We could be a very good team with him, but it won't be fun to watch and I doubt we would ever have the horses to truly compete for a ship.

Edit: I also think it would take time to institute his system, leading to yet a few more rough years. I know he is doing well at Drake but he has a lot of roster continuity, especially in his starting 5.

Exactly. And we’re not willing to give a guy 2-3 years to get an unorthodox system instituted and the right personnel in place. Whether it’s Brad, Dusty, or the next door neighbor…you better win and you better do it quickly or the pitchforks come out.

[AZ Hoosier 8,346]

14 minutes ago, Gameface01 said:

It was a joke there mamadrama. Yeah, well.... yeah definitely joking

So, domestic abuse is a joke to you? Ok, got it. Appreciate the clarification.

[AZ Hoosier 8,346]

9 minutes ago, ClarkCoHoosier said:

It was red.

Like Wisconsin? :D 

[Hoosier987 1,415]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Hoosier Pride said:

 

Yikes...but very valid point. 

[AH1971 1,900]

1 minute ago, go iu bb said:

The thing is, he won't be offered the job. So whether or not he'd accept is moot. Not a realistic candidate because he won't be an actual candidate.

I’ve never accused the IU administration of being competent have I?

[VFury 96]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Exactly. And we’re not willing to give a guy 2-3 years to get an unorthodox system instituted and the right personnel in place. Whether it’s Brad, Dusty, or the next door neighbor…you better win and you better do it quickly or the pitchforks come out.

But we gave Archie 4 years to install his terrible offense?

[MrBBall 241]

23 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

That is true because I just went to Sam's for the family on my lunch break and saw Armond Hill there buying some water and some chips. He wasn't dressed in any IU gear, which I understood. I just asked him if he was doing ok and if it was a late night getting in. He gave me a thumbs-up and went on. 

At Hill’s age he probably is just glad to wake up and see the sunrise. 

[Mr. Hoosier Pride 741]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Hoosier Pride said:

 

Chances this is the first of several direct shots from national media this week approved by the athletic office to get the ball rolling?

**removes tin foil hat**

[PartyintheVillas 297]

1 minute ago, VFury said:

But we gave Archie 4 years to install his terrible offense?

and learned from the mistakes

[AH1971 1,900]

1 minute ago, VFury said:

But we gave Archie 4 years to install his terrible offense?

Yeah? And the pitchforks were out before his 2nd season ended. Once you lose this fanbase, you’re effectively done.

[Kentuckysucks 2,693]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Exactly. And we’re not willing to give a guy 2-3 years to get an unorthodox system instituted and the right personnel in place. Whether it’s Brad, Dusty, or the next door neighbor…you better win and you better do it quickly or the pitchforks come out.

If they hire someone the fans really want that will not be the case.  Although obviously that would be the first time that has happened since the Knight firing so I’m not optimistic that they will.

[JSHoosier 20,879]

8 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

I don't think Woodson will easily go or retire.  I know nobody wants to think about this and I'm certainly against it...but what if...what if Woodson is coaching here next year? What does the Program even look like if that's the case? Again, I'm in no way saying he's going to be coaching next year...but until he "retires" (which i don't think he will) or Dolson has cojones and makes the move, he's still on the sideline. Depressing thought. 

If there was another year of Woodson there would be Egyptian mummies in better shape than this program.

[IUFAN1976 4,011]

1 hour ago, Gameface01 said:

He thought she was down for whatever, perhaps maybe she wasnt

I guess it is what it is!

[PartyintheVillas 297]

1 minute ago, Kentuckysucks said:

If they hire someone the fans really want that will not be the case.  Although obviously that would be the first time that has happened since the Knight firing so I’m not optimistic that they will.

Archie was a very popular hire within Indiana and around the country. Results were pretty ****, but the hire was very popular. Even Bob Knight liked the hire.

Bob Knight praised Archie Miller, the head coach of Indiana University's men's basketball team, by saying, "This kid (Miller) is going to do a good job". Knight also said, "You folks are going to appreciate him, but it ain't gonna happen in a year

[VFury 96]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Yeah? And the pitchforks were out before his 2nd season ended. Once you lose this fanbase, you’re effectively done.

Giving Archie more years won't magically make him a better coach. I don't understand the logic

[FortWayneHoosier 6,327]

31 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

That is true because I just went to Sam's for the family on my lunch break and saw Armond Hill there buying some water and some chips. He wasn't dressed in any IU gear, which I understood. I just asked him if he was doing ok and if it was a late night getting in. He gave me a thumbs-up and went on. 

When I was down at the Winthrop game, the team came out officially for warm ups...Armond went straight to the bench and did not engage with a coach or player and had the  same look he always has and acted like he was on the couch watching the news. I have never seen someone so dis engaged in such a loud and eventful arena lol. Ultimately I looked up what his background was and the dude is the real deal, but obviously lacks any kind of help to this team. 

 

anyways....Fire Woody!

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,584]

9 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Assault is not funny.  Anyone who would joke about that is really messed up. 

There are still details about the evening that matter. It's not a broad stroke and if she punched first, I'd really like to hear more. 

[Hovadipo 57,871]

29 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

That is true because I just went to Sam's for the family on my lunch break and saw Armond Hill there buying some water and some chips. He wasn't dressed in any IU gear, which I understood. I just asked him if he was doing ok and if it was a late night getting in. He gave me a thumbs-up and went on. 

Must be poker night at the Chucklef***’s club For Dips***tery and A**hattedness. 

[rcbowla 7,247]

They're not going to fire a coach mid-season that played here. The only way they part before end of season is through a "mutual" agreement to retire, effective immediately.