Fire Coach Woodson (or contemplate retirement) Thread

[VFury 93]

12 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I am one of the old timers who have seen 3 national championships and saw what made IU elite. It wasn't about out talenting teams but we were built on a foundation of toughness, hard work and playing the game the right way. We have went away from that foundation and culture that made IU who we were and it hasn't worked. It is time to get back to that foundation and culture of players who play hard and play with toughness. I am.tired of the portal and NIL and building our roster that way instead of building a roster through evaluation and developing. I guess maybe I am spoiled as an IU fan but any mention of coaches like Beard or Wade just infuriates me because they don't meet that foundation or culture that made IU great.

For you young guys if you want to see what IU culture was all about just watch Purdue tonight because that was how IU used to be built. I would assume for most of us older fans that is what upsets us as much as anything is seeing your biggest rival be what you use to be.

Look, we could either cling to the past and try desperately to bring back something that hasn't existed for a generation, or look to the future and put together the best possible program in the modern era. This thought process is why IU has sucked the better part of 25 years.

[AH1971 1,898]

1 minute ago, Shooter said:

What is your point? Mike Woodson needs support and a few more years to change his approach? Maybe he'll have it figured out by the time he's 70.

Nothing to do with Mike Woodson.

[IUFAN1976 4,009]

Just now, Shooter said:

What is your point? Mike Woodson needs support and a few more years to change his approach? Maybe he'll have it figured out by the time he's 70.

That’s what I took from his comments because he hasn’t been there long enough to make it work.  

[Scotty R 2,513]

8 minutes ago, Shooter said:

Matt Painter's absolute best quality is that he knows exactly what he is looking for in a player. He does not care at all about recruiting rankings. When he finds what he is looking for, he signs the kid up and develops him. I would so love for IU to be that kind of program again.

(I just threw up in my mouth a bit typing that)

Sounds like a certain coach who coached here for a long time.

[Josh 12,768]

Brad Brownell?  Omg get tf outta here.  Jeez that's Archie level bad thinking

[AH1971 1,898]

1 minute ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

It is amazing how much power our fan base has over a coach’s ability to win. Prayers couldn’t even save Archie from the the demonic fans.

Our own worst enemy 

[AZ Hoosier 8,330]

Just now, IUFAN1976 said:

You and I are one of the few that have had the opportunity and satisfaction to witness 3 National Championships, probably only Old Fart has witnessed more, lol!   I agree with this, I try not to watch Turdue, but they play the way I would love to see IU teams play, with a freaking identity of physical and mental toughness, working hard and with great basketball IQ and fundamentals.  And we ain’t talking about an ex-IU guy but a coach that conveys that what our culture and identity is!

Agreed. I, too, was fortunate enough to witness Bob Knight's glory years in the early '70s through the mid '90s...through the years, Knight and Keady battled each other, but both taught the game, developed young boys into men who understood a lot about doing your job, doing it the right way and just flat working hard. Sadly, the farm school up north has continued that work in the person of Matt Painter, and Indiana has floundered with clowns and incompetence.

It's pretty depressing, actually, and even more so that the clown leading the program today was a product of Knight's mentoring.

[VFury 93]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Matt Painter had his worst 4 year stretch chasing “stars”. Missed two straight tournaments and lost in the first round in excruciating fashion the next two years. And instead of kicking him to the curb, he got support and was given time to change his approach and the rest is history.

We would have torn Painter to shreds if he were at IU had didn't do anything with Hummel and then proceeded to miss a couple tournaments in a row. We essentially were at the same impasse with Crean, and we booted him out before he got the chance to change.

[Chris007 48,512]

Seems a little weird in here today. 

[BleedCubbieBlue 1,526]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

The sting happened the year prior. The news broke just before that season happened. 

I don’t feel like that was a hard question. A simple yes or no will suffice.

[Shooter 498]

3 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Exactly, instead of a freaking coach who just wants to recruit the highest ranked players by throwing money at them like Woodson has, recruit players to your system, culture and identity you want to play, even role players because every good teams have role players and they accept their roles

Yep. After I typed that about Painter, I realized it is equally true for Curt Cignetti.

[IUFAN1976 4,009]

1 minute ago, VFury said:

Look, we could either cling to the past and try desperately to bring back something that hasn't existed for a generation, or look to the future and put together the best possible program in the modern era. This thought process is why IU has sucked the better part of 25 years.

No it isn’t, we’ve gotten away from it during the Mike Davis era.  But it exactly works for Turdue, don’t you agree?

[BleedCubbieBlue 1,526]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Our own worst enemy 

Damn. The first rule that all of the drug dealers Sampson recruited taught me is to not get high off your own supply. You may want to take that advice.

[Home Jersey 10,045]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Seems a little weird in here today. 

We are reaching jet speed levels of posting because of the anticipation for this a$$ whooping tonight

[IUFAN1976 4,009]

1 minute ago, Shooter said:

Yep. After I typed that about Painter, I realized it is equally true for Curt Cignetti.

Exactly, it’s not about the past, it’s about your system and how you want your players to play.  

[go iu bb 7,054]

6 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Nothing to do with Mike Woodson.

Than maybe it shouldn't be in the Woodson thread.

[AH1971 1,898]

Just now, go iu bb said:

Than maybe it shouldn't be in the Woodson thread.

Don’t read it and then certainly don’t respond to it.

[IUFAN1976 4,009]

6 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Agreed. I, too, was fortunate enough to witness Bob Knight's glory years in the early '70s through the mid '90s...through the years, Knight and Keady battled each other, but both taught the game, developed young boys into men who understood a lot about doing your job, doing it the right way and just flat working hard. Sadly, the farm school up north has continued that work in the person of Matt Painter, and Indiana has floundered with clowns and incompetence.

It's pretty depressing, actually, and even more so that the clown leading the program today was a product of Knight's mentoring.

There’s a few of us on the same page, but others say we are living in the past but Turdue isn’t past, it’s the present.  

[Mopladysman 511]

In other news..  we did Purdue a favor by beating their @$$ so they could get a new coach.  Time for them to return the favor.

fire Mike Woodson 

[Chris007 48,512]

5 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

We are reaching jet speed levels of posting because of the anticipation for this a$$ whooping tonight

Brad Brownell

Will Wade 

and a bunch of others