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Fire Coach Woodson (or contemplate retirement) Thread

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50 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Brown had clear interest in Indiana.  He went on an official visit to Bloomington in September.  And he told The Daily Hoosier over the summer he would be watching IU this season to see how their guards were utilized.

 

You lost me at utilized.

You mean he isn't into a sleepy head coach, a stagnant offense, bad three point looks, and turnovers?

Also, you are being recruited by Louisville and Indiana, and you see they play on a neutral court during Thanksgiving.  You don't think that played a big part in him trending toward Louisville?  Woodson has gots to go! 

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2 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

With this current Administration, it may be another 40 years before IU is relevant.

FIRE MIKE WOODSON!!!!

The current administration that hired Cignetti after spending $20M to fire Allen and, when it became clear he was a winner, gave him a big raise to keep while also increasing the assistant coaching salary pool to almost that of OSU and making a commitment to NIL? That administration? Yeah, they obviously don't care about the money sports.

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13 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

There is really no reason to pay attention to, or put much stock in HS recruiting until he is gone. The system is bad, the tape is ugly, he is bordering lame duck status, and MW is notorious for being an uninvolved recruiter. What we have seen will be how it is--maybe one long term recruiting win and then a spring add when a kid has reasons things change in their recruitment and/or NIL demands. 

HS recruiting is usually one of my favorite things to follow but there really is not any point until he is gone so I have mostly stopped. It is what it is at this point. No point in getting worked into a lather over it, HS recruiting has been middling to terrible his entire tenure. We had a recruiting class of zero people in March lol--which made us the only P4 team without one. 

To me, the lack of success with HS recruiting is one of the largest red flags about the state of the program internally. The HH podcast I take with a grain of salt, but my guess is they probably have receipts for a lot of what they said, which is why they were comfortable airing the laundry. The HS recruiting makes me believe more of it than I maybe would normally when it comes to a weird spurned wanna be media type. The bright side, is this is all easily fixed with the right hire in the NIL era. We would be in REALLY dire straights without it, and ultimately it bought MW another year. Sans NIL/transfer portal the next coach and IU would be staring at a Crean level rebuild due to the lack of players we have gotten. We just gotta ride this out, and look forward to the next guy. 

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I have zero confidence that MW and can put a solid game plan together that will help prepare this team to win on the road consistently and I think he will get out-coached tomorrow and we lose by double digits!  He is by far the laziest and worst coach in the B10.  
Given the talent gap this game should not even be close. But the king being on the sideline is why it will be close.

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Also, you are being recruited by Louisville and Indiana, and you see they play on a neutral court during Thanksgiving.  You don't think that played a big part in him trending toward Louisville?  Woodson has gots to go! 
Meanwhile sampson has three top 20 recruits signed. Byu 2 top 25.

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Woodson is turning IU basketball into what IU football has traditionally been for me: A team I follow and want to win but I care deeply about so the outcomes don't really matter much either way. Not much excitement after a win, just a shrug after a loss.

Cignetti is turning IU football into what IU basketball used to be for me.

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Woodson is turning IU basketball into what IU football has traditionally been for me: A team I follow and want to win but I am not don't care deeply about so it the outcomes don't really matter much either way. Not much excitement after a win, just a shrug after a loss.
Cignetti is turning IU football into what IU basketball used to be for me.
100% football is now the top sport at indiana no doubt.

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5 hours ago, go iu bb said:

The current administration that hired Cignetti after spending $20M to fire Allen and, when it became clear he was a winner, gave him a big raise to keep while also increasing the assistant coaching salary pool to almost that of OSU and making a commitment to NIL? That administration? Yeah, they obviously don't care about the money sports.

I was kind of making a joke!  Although the current administration includes QB, yeah that administration.  Why are people so touchy?  More often than not, I am usually being facetious when it comes to MW, QB, and our Administration, other than Dolson whose hands have been tied by QB and company.  So you see why I’m saying Administration because as long as he is still a part of it could be longer, heck he may want MW to stay another 4 years if he just wins 20 games and barely makes the tournament.  As long as he’s still has influence, nobody is sure of anything when it comes to our basketball program 

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3 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I was kind of making a joke!  Although the current administration includes QB, yeah that administration.  Why are people so touchy?  More often than not, I am usually being facetious when it comes to MW, QB, and our Administration, other than Dolson whose hands have been tied by QB and company.  So you see why I’m saying Administration because as long as he is still a part of it could be longer, heck he may want MW to stay another 4 years if he just wins 20 games and barely makes the tournament.  As long as he’s still has influence, nobody is sure of anything when it comes to our basketball program 

QB is out middle of next year. So only a few months after the end of the season. No way a lame duck has the power to force Dolson to keep Woodson.

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5 hours ago, OKHOOSIER said:

There is really no reason to pay attention to, or put much stock in HS recruiting until he is gone. The system is bad, the tape is ugly, he is bordering lame duck status, and MW is notorious for being an uninvolved recruiter. What we have seen will be how it is--maybe one long term recruiting win and then a spring add when a kid has reasons things change in their recruitment and/or NIL demands. 

HS recruiting is usually one of my favorite things to follow but there really is not any point until he is gone so I have mostly stopped. It is what it is at this point. No point in getting worked into a lather over it, HS recruiting has been middling to terrible his entire tenure. We had a recruiting class of zero people in March lol--which made us the only P4 team without one. 

To me, the lack of success with HS recruiting is one of the largest red flags about the state of the program internally. The HH podcast I take with a grain of salt, but my guess is they probably have receipts for a lot of what they said, which is why they were comfortable airing the laundry. The HS recruiting makes me believe more of it than I maybe would normally when it comes to a weird spurned wanna be media type. The bright side, is this is all easily fixed with the right hire in the NIL era. We would be in REALLY dire straights without it, and ultimately it bought MW another year. Sans NIL/transfer portal the next coach and IU would be staring at a Crean level rebuild due to the lack of players we have gotten. We just gotta ride this out, and look forward to the next guy. 

100%, which is why he needs to be gone. One red flag after another and yet he is still the coach!  I won’t believe he will actually be gone until it is reported that he is fired and I do believe Dolson wants him gone.

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1 minute ago, go iu bb said:

QB is out middle of next year. So only a few months after the end of the season. No way a lame duck has the power to force Dolson to keep Woodson.

But he will still be in there during April, when Dolson wants to fire Woodson and who is to say QB won’t get re-appointed?

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5 hours ago, Hornsby said:

Given the talent gap this game should not even be close. But the king being on the sideline is why it will be close.

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I know but here we are being an underdog to a team with much less talent and it is only because of the two head coaches.  

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5 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

But he will still be in there during April, when Dolson wants to fire Woodson and who is to say QB won’t get re-appointed?

That's one thing I worry about is he somehow finds a way to stick around and keep the fleece club going...

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13 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

But he will still be in there during April, when Dolson wants to fire Woodson and who is to say QB won’t get re-appointed?

So what is a lame duck BoT Chair going to do? Get an AD fired for trying to do his job when he himself has only a few months left? Are you really being serious here?

I would also point out that Dolson has more clout now than he 6 months ago. Unless something changes and the basketball team actually gels and plays at the level they're capable of, Woodson will have underperformed yet again and fan enthusiasm and attendance will be down. Compare this to Dolson's football hire and his effect on the football program.

Woodson is gone after the season unless Dolson wants to keep him. QB won't have the power to prevent it.

The question is whether Dolson is behind him or not. I think the lack of a statement of support after last season shows that it really is QB and not Dolson behind Woodson getting this year.

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