Coach Curt Cignetti to INDIANA

[GoIU8 205]

Mike Hart apparently interviewing for the job. The expectations keep getting lower and lower....

[Golfman25 4,993]

58 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Can we just get a coach who can build a real team identity? Tom Allen era had zero identity. Unless being undisciplined is an identity. I don't care if it's Kevin Wilson style air it out or defensive, smash mouth, ball possession dominant. Just pick a lane. I could really go for either.

Bring back the chuck and duck.  :) 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 8,879]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Takes me back to my college days which were the Cam Cameron days. Where we would lose 35-31, 41-38

I was at all those games. Cam Cameron needed Bryan Roberston to be what he was supposed to be coming out of HS. 

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Just now, btownqb said:

I was at all those games. Cam Cameron needed Bryan Roberston to be what he was supposed to be coming out of HS. 

I remember pointing out that it was 3rd and 12, and our DB's would be 15 yards off the ball. It was mind blowing

[IndyResident16 567]

9 minutes ago, btownqb said:

It looks and sounds like a big nothing burger to me and most people. Those that are dramatic by nature might try and read into it more. Eeesh 

You don't go from offering $70 million to Brad Stevens to turning around and hiring an 60+ yr old NBA assistant with zero collegiate experience 48 hours later. That isn't to say Mike Woodson can't or won't be successful here, but if Brad Stevens and Mike Woodson were the only two candidates on Dolson's wish list it even further illustrates his ineptness. 

[Hoosier987 1,062]

20 hours ago, coonhounds said:

Gruden is the guy! He will be hungry to restore his name ad a person and coach in a second chance type thing. His name still has star power and he knows how to coach. We are the worst team I'm the history of division 1. What is the worst that could happen? He is the guy you make say no imo

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From the reports, it doesn’t sound like it’s happening but interesting to note nonetheless …Tayven is throwing support for Gruden hire.

[IndyResident16 567]

9 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Define win. Because during his tenure (3 seasons) he went bowling 3 out of 3 and finished with a 21-15 record.  I don't know about you, but for me at least, I would be on cloud nine if IUFB had his numbers while at Miami.

He was fired from Miami for being a middle of the pack ACC team in some serious down years and not being able to recruit his home city despite the historical significance his family name has in Dade County. 

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You hire for what a coach WILL do, not what he’s done.

What he’s done is only part of the calculus of figuring out what he’ll do.

[IndyResident16 567]

1 minute ago, lillurk said:

You hire for what a coach WILL do, not what he’s done.

What he’s done is only part of the calculus of figuring out what he’ll do.

Past is a pretty good indication of the future though, no?

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1 minute ago, IndyResident16 said:

Past is a pretty good indication of the future though, no?

I saw a Ted talk that you need 2 qualities:

1. Desire to be the best

2. Growth Mindset that you can always improve

[IUHoosierJoe 1,066]

18 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Is that true, though? 

We went to bowl games his last two seasons, and holy F, did KW ever inherit a MESS from Bill Lynch... 

I'll even go further... Kevin Wilson had A LOT to do with our seasons in 2019, 2020. 

No doubt he inherited a mess.  Still, in his 5 years before he hired Tom Allen, he was 8-32 in the Big 10.  The first bowl game he went to, we were 2-6 in the Big 10.  

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11 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

Past is a pretty good indication of the future though, no?

For sure. But past won/lost record is not always the best metric of past performance. 

NOT that we're going to find a hall of famer, but Belechick's won/lost record was 36-44 before New England. However, there was something about his past performance; the leadership, the relationships he built, the innovation, that got him that Patriots job.

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8 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

He was fired from Miami for being a middle of the pack ACC team in some serious down years and not being able to recruit his home city despite the historical significance his family name has in Dade County. 

So, it's not that he didn't win per se, it's the program he was coaching has a much more richer history than IUFB thus the reason you say he didn't win? Or is it you're just not a fan? Or is it his recruiting, or lack thereof? Serious question, how would you feel if he accomplish the exact same results at IUFB?

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5 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

No doubt he inherited a mess.  Still, in his 5 years before he hired Tom Allen, he was 8-32 in the Big 10.  The first bowl game he went to, we were 2-6 in the Big 10.  

Now we are just asking a coach to go 3-6 and best the 3 bad teams we schedule in the noncon.

[GoIU8 205]

Manny Diaz isn't even a candidate, why is this discussion even happening

[IndyResident16 567]

3 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

So, it's not that he didn't win per se, it's the program he was coaching has a much more richer history than IUFB thus the reason you say he didn't win? Or is it you're just not a fan? Or is it his recruiting, or lack thereof? Serious question, how would you feel if he accomplish the exact same results at IUFB?

If he went 21-15 over a 3 year run I would be ecstatic. But I know enough about Manny Diaz to know that there is a reason he's a defensive coordinator and not a head coach and why Miami didn't mess around and let him overstay his welcome. 

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6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

For sure. But past won/lost record is not always the best metric of past performance. 

NOT that we're going to find a hall of famer, but Belechick's won/lost record was doghsirt before New England. However, there was something about his past performance; the leadership, the relationships he built, the innovation, that got him that Patriots job.

...and lucking into Tom Brady is what allowed him to keep his job.

Nothing happens in a vacuum. It's not a coincidence that we had Penix and Deboer when Allen had his best years.

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In Lewis’ final four seasons at Kent State, he led the team to a 22-21 overall record, including an 18-10 mark in MAC conference play. To put that into perspective, Kent State had failed to finish with a winning record in 38 of the previous 41 seasons prior to Lewis being hired as head coach in 2018.

He was a top candidate for the Cincinnati head coach opening this past cycle prior to the Bearcats hiring Scott Satterfield.

[mamasa 15,134]

I'm pretty much at the place where I accept: the best college coach could come here and fail miserably, as well as an unproven coach could come here and have spectacular results. I don't know how any of this will work out, just hope it's a high character hire.

[Lebowski 2,408]

1 minute ago, GoIU8 said:

Manny Diaz isn't even a candidate, why is this discussion even happening

The same reason Gruden is? LOL!