IU Basketball News and Notes

[lillurk 3,738]

I want to be excited about Tucker but I’m a little worried about his shooting. Since he didn’t play summer ‘23 AAU there’s less data than lots of guys but what data there is looks shaky, the scouting has been positive but not effusive in that regard, and any praise of a perimeter player’s midrange shooting is damning with faint praise that he’s not taking and making 3s.

Now, I hope I’m wrong, players get better, and the lack of data can work in his favor: small sample may be distorting his numbers AND the scouting.

[HoosierHoopster 6,963]

9 hours ago, lillurk said:

I want to be excited about Tucker but I’m a little worried about his shooting. Since he didn’t play summer ‘23 AAU there’s less data than lots of guys but what data there is looks shaky, the scouting has been positive but not effusive in that regard, and any praise of a perimeter player’s midrange shooting is damning with faint praise that he’s not taking and making 3s.

Now, I hope I’m wrong, players get better, and the lack of data can work in his favor: small sample may be distorting his numbers AND the scouting.

He's a midrange player to date - a very, very good midrange player. Definitely should and hopefully will expand his game to the perimeter but that's not been his game to date. Will say that man his 2-point shot looked good in the scrimmage.

[steubenhoosier 874]

5 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

He's a midrange player to date - a very, very good midrange player. Definitely should and hopefully will expand his game to the perimeter but that's not been his game to date. Will say that man his 2-point shot looked good in the scrimmage.

IIRC, we had an excellent midrange player a couple of years ago who torched PUke and became a 1st round draft pick 

[HoosierHoopster 6,963]

Just now, steubenhoosier said:

IIRC, we had an excellent midrange player a couple of years ago who torched PUke and became a 1st round draft pick 

Yeah JHS was outstanding and while Tucker needs to develop/show outside shooting, a really good mid-range game is underrated. Demar Derozan is the outlier example, fantastic player

[IUFAN1976 3,103]

1 hour ago, HoosierHoopster said:

He's a midrange player to date - a very, very good midrange player. Definitely should and hopefully will expand his game to the perimeter but that's not been his game to date. Will say that man his 2-point shot looked good in the scrimmage.

He just has to be able to knock one down occasionally and that will make his already good mid-range game more robust 

[str8baller 5,231]

11 hours ago, steubenhoosier said:

IIRC, we had an excellent midrange player a couple of years ago who torched PUke and became a 1st round draft pick 

He was our pg and it was mainly because edey can’t defend, especially a PnR. I’m not sure I place the same value in that attribute in a frosh wing. 
 

This will be a good opportunity for him to learn to find scoring opportunities off the ball. Also, he’ll get some opportunities at the end of the shot clock to take 15footers off the bounce but otherwise those chances should be few and far between. 

[Stuhoo 80,638]

Woody from the presser today:

• Langdon Hatton has been a surprise and can do some things the staff didn't think he could do. Has improved athletically and can get up and down the floor.
• They had a game-style scrimmage the other night and Malik made two out three from 3pt during it. 
• Both Trey and Jakai played and played well during the scrimmage; 15-18 minutes apiece. Neither is fully recovered. Woody can't yet say whether they will play on Sunday, so they might - the trainers and team doctors will inform about their availability.
• As a team they are taking more threes.
• The team has been working their a$$es off.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,314]

Woody from the presser today:

• Langdon Hatton has been a surprise and can do some things the staff didn't think he could do. Has improved athletically and can get up and down the floor.
• They had a game-style scrimmage the other night and Malik made two out three from 3pt during it. 
• Both Trey and Jakai played and played well during the scrimmage; 15-18 minutes apiece. Neither is fully recovered. Woody can't yet say whether they will play on Sunday, so they might - the trainers and team doctors will inform about their availability.
• As a team they are taking more threes.
• The team has been working their a$$es off.

That matches my takeaway from the Scrimmage. Hatton was the most surprising player to me. He fit. He was slick on offense. Couldn’t really handle Ballo on defense but Hatton and Tucker were the positives for me from the scrimmage.

Ballo, Reneau, Mgbako looked as expected.


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[HoosierHoopster 6,963]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Woody from the presser today:

• Langdon Hatton has been a surprise and can do some things the staff didn't think he could do. Has improved athletically and can get up and down the floor.
• They had a game-style scrimmage the other night and Malik made two out three from 3pt during it. 
• Both Trey and Jakai played and played well during the scrimmage; 15-18 minutes apiece. Neither is fully recovered. Woody can't yet say whether they will play on Sunday, so they might - the trainers and team doctors will inform about their availability.
• As a team they are taking more threes.
• The team has been working their a$$es off.

Good news and imo especially that Jakai is scrimmaging 15-18 minutes. Should be just a matter of time now.

[Demo 19,946]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Woody from the presser today:

• Langdon Hatton has been a surprise and can do some things the staff didn't think he could do. Has improved athletically and can get up and down the floor.
• They had a game-style scrimmage the other night and Malik made two out three from 3pt during it. 
• Both Trey and Jakai played and played well during the scrimmage; 15-18 minutes apiece. Neither is fully recovered. Woody can't yet say whether they will play on Sunday, so they might - the trainers and team doctors will inform about their availability.
• As a team they are taking more threes.
• The team has been working their a$$es off.

2 things here: 1)That is really good news with Hatton. I still think he’s strictly a niche guy by conference season, but if he’s good enough to give them legit positive minutes in foul situations or should Ballo or Reneau miss a couple of games, that’s so good. 2) If Galloway and Newton can go 15–18 hard minutes in a scrimmage now they’re good to go. I don’t care if they play Sunday. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,742]

How's this for some Sunday afternoon news?

[Hovadipo 56,100]

Should’ve had it in The Sphere. Football stadium basketball is garbage. 

[str8baller 5,231]

47 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Should’ve had it in The Sphere. Football stadium basketball is garbage. 

Sphere basketball would be wild depending on what they put on the screens

[Hovadipo 56,100]

19 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Sphere basketball would be wild depending on what they put on the screens

Just roll whatever video package Dead and Co. used. Let’s get weird. 

[go iu bb 5,956]

2 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

How's this for some Sunday afternoon news?

Only a 4 hour drive for me. I might just go. Have a few years to see what the team will be like to know if it'll be worth it.

[Stuhoo 80,638]

In the post game, Woody said that Tucker took a knee to the thigh in practice and wasn’t able to get loose. Nothing serious at all.

He also said that 19 threes was fine, but we need to shoot more of them than that.

Woody didn’t seem especially satisfied with our performance.

[IUFAN1976 3,103]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

In the post game, Woody said that Tucker took a knee to the thigh in practice and wasn’t able to get loose. Nothing serious at all.

He also said that 19 threes was fine, but we need to shoot more of them than that.

Woody didn’t seem especially satisfied with our performance.

Perhaps but 19 is a lot more than we usually shot last year.  I am not sure what we averaged per game last year but it seemed like there were a lot of games we shot 12 or less!

[HoosierHoopster 6,963]

15 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Perhaps but 19 is a lot more than we usually shot last year.  I am not sure what we averaged per game last year but it seemed like there were a lot of games we shot 12 or less!

You are correct. We took 15.5 3's per game last year (15.7 in conference). That was 'good' for 325th in MBB, that's just plain terrible game planning/coaching.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/indiana/men/2024.html

While our opponents took 25 last year.

Taking 11 in the first despite going O'fer on them to me is encouraging. Everyone was rusty and playing tight in the first  half of the first exhibition (on both teams). Finding good looks and then going 4-8 in the second was key to the W. We don't win that game without some balanced outside shooting to keep us in the game and then stretch things. 

We played from behind for most of the game after leading I think it was 16-14. The 3's were absolutely key to the offense keeping us in it and then holding serve to finish. That, to me, is definitely an encouraging sign.

[NashvilleHoosier 3,703]

Tickets for the game at the Palestra went on sale to general public today. Plenty left to snag. Let's fill it up!!

https://pennathletics.evenue.net/events/PSU

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,141]

On 10/27/2024 at 8:22 PM, Stuhoo said:

In the post game, Woody said that Tucker took a knee to the thigh in practice and wasn’t able to get loose. Nothing serious at all.

He also said that 19 threes was fine, but we need to shoot more of them than that.

Woody didn’t seem especially satisfied with our performance.

He shouldn't be. We left a lot on the table. We were pathetic the first 3 mins of the scrimmage.