Dane Fife leaves IU staff

[Stuhoo]

40 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Maybe one of you could explain how Iowa came back from 20 down to beat IU with a starter out?   

"We played like crap" would be my best summary.

[Hoosierfan2017]

48 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Maybe one of you could explain how Iowa came back from 20 down to beat IU with a starter out?   

Halftime adjustments 

@btownqb

[str8baller]

On 1/10/2023 at 2:03 PM, btownqb said:

I can't believe I read "Woody has an awful basketball team on his hands"... that's a crazy statement. 

Care to revisit this statement?  
 

The only thing I can’t believe is a lot of people couldn’t see it until tonight.

[CSP]

11 hours ago, str8baller said:

Care to revisit this statement?  
 

The only thing I can’t believe is a lot of people couldn’t see it until tonight.

I said what I said. None of this happens with XJ. Your opinion is meaningless to me. 

[JSHoosier]

7 minutes ago, btownqb said:

I said what I said. None of this happens with XJ. Your opinion is meaningless to me. 

Injuries hurt, but there's enough talent on the team to not be as it is.

[CSP]

Just now, JSHoosier said:

Injuries hurt, but there's enough talent on the team to not be as it is.

I don't agree with that at all/I think it has a lot more to do with our roster makeup than anything. Both how we went about it and the actual players that make up that roster. NW and PSU are better than us minus Race and XJ. It's not that hard to admit. 

[JSHoosier]

24 minutes ago, btownqb said:

I don't agree with that at all/I think it has a lot more to do with our roster makeup than anything. Both how we went about it and the actual players that make up that roster. NW and PSU are better than us minus Race and XJ. It's not that hard to admit. 

You don't need a roster full of 5* to have a team that plays hard or hits free throws or boxes out.

[CSP]

3 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

You don't need a roster full of 5* to have a team that plays hard or hits free throws or boxes out.

Of course. I agree. 

[IUCrazy2]

33 minutes ago, btownqb said:

I don't agree with that at all/I think it has a lot more to do with our roster makeup than anything. Both how we went about it and the actual players that make up that roster. NW and PSU are better than us minus Race and XJ. It's not that hard to admit. 

Our roster is just fine, our coaching (or lack thereof) and our offensive and defensive schemes (or lack thereof) are the problem.

NW and PSU are not better than us because they have better players.  Just stop with that nonsense.

[CSP]

7 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Our roster is just fine, our coaching (or lack thereof) and our offensive and defensive schemes (or lack thereof) are the problem.

NW and PSU are not better than us because they have better players.  Just stop with that nonsense.

They're 100% better than us minus Race and Xavier. That is so absurdly evident. 

[Golfman25]

13 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Our roster is just fine, our coaching (or lack thereof) and our offensive and defensive schemes (or lack thereof) are the problem.

NW and PSU are not better than us because they have better players.  Just stop with that nonsense.

They don’t have better players, but they have the right players.  Our players appear not to know what to do.  Maybe coaching.  Maybe Iq. Probably both.  

[JSHoosier]

25 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Of course. I agree. 

We don't do any of those.  Plus we're constantly over helping leaving shooters wide open.  We've struggled with FTs and giving up offensive boards all year.

Injuries aside we shouldn't have blown a 20 point lead to a short handed Iowa team, or lost at home to NW, or got completely waxed by PSU.  We've still got enough to at least be competitive in these games instead of getting punked.

[IUCrazy2]

38 minutes ago, btownqb said:

They're 100% better than us minus Race and Xavier. That is so absurdly evident. 

Try and argue against what I am actually saying as opposed to whatever argument you have made up in your head.

[HoosierAloha]

Just an FYI, we're 1-7 against Iowa (0-3), Northwestern (0-2), and Penn State (1-2) last season and this season. I guess we need everything to go right and for us not to be idiots breaking rules and such to win games against these Big 1.o powers.

[CSP]

2 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

We don't do any of those.  Plus we're constantly over helping leaving shooters wide open.  We've struggled with FTs and giving up offensive boards all year.

Injuries aside we shouldn't have blown a 20 point lead to a short handed Iowa team, or lost at home to NW, or got completely waxed by PSU.  We've still got enough to at least be competitive in these games instead of getting punked.

Well... pretty competitive in the first two, I mean we lost by a combined 3 points. 

Those first three points aren't on my list of complaints, though.... sans the defensive reb because against Rutgers lord that pissed me off. Same vs. Iowa... it was better against NW and was solid last night, but some of that was a product of PSU didn't really have any interest in sending a lot of dudes to the O glass because there was no need. 

But, where I'm frustrated... some times dudes hit shots, some times dudes get absurdly hot... We need more dudes that can do that. from the perimeter. 

[CSP]

3 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Try and argue against what I am actually saying as opposed to whatever argument you have made up in your head.

They are better than us minus those two. It's not hard to see, boss. Idk why you're still trying to quote me though. We clearly don't agree. "try and argue" no--- I have no want or need to argue with you lol. 

[IUCrazy2]

32 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

They don’t have better players, but they have the right players.  Our players appear not to know what to do.  Maybe coaching.  Maybe Iq. Probably both.  

You could have stopped at the bolded part.  I bet Collins would take our roster in the same timeframe Woodson has and beat his current team under Woodson.  Same with Shrewsberry.

Btownqb keeps making the argument that they are a better team than us without XJ and RT and I keep saying that we still have better individual players than they do even without those two and that the reason we are not winning is because we are not maximizing the potential of our team.  "Can't expect to beat that better team when XJ and RT go down."  Yes, yes you can.  And you should expect it because Indiana ALWAYS has a better pick of players than Northwestern.  Always.  If you can't expect to beat Northwestern on a 70% clip (better at home) with that actuality, then you have the wrong coach.

We have outrecruited Northwestern in all but one year going back to at least 2011.  We are 9-7 against them in that same timeframe.  We have better players coming in and they end up having a more competitive team based on the sum of their parts because our coaching staffs are failing.  Most years Indiana is in the Top 25% for recruiting in the BIG.  They never were below the Top 50%.  We have as good or better players in any given year (coming in) than all but maybe 1 or 2 other programs.  "Well they don't turn out that way..."  That's my whole fudging point.

[IUCrazy2]

7 minutes ago, btownqb said:

They are better than us minus those two. It's not hard to see, boss. Idk why you're still trying to quote me though. We clearly don't agree. "try and argue" no--- I have no want or need to argue with you lol. 

We don't agree because you are wrong.  Carry on.

[CSP]

5 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

We don't agree because you are wrong.  Carry on.

See... I think the opposite lol .. so, again, waste of time. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

They're 100% better than us minus Race and Xavier. That is so absurdly evident. 

These were the takes I saw all over the place before the season. Now we lose Race and Xavier and suddenly we’re not as good as the Northwesterns and Penn States of the Big 10?