Goodman on the Hoosier Hysterics Podcast

[DChoosier 8,395]

12 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I love college basketball but things like this is starting to make me rethink how I feel about it.

You’ve been rethinking it for the last few years….LOL

[Hovadipo 56,125]

14 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

At some places but not everywhere

The players that are bringing in quite literally BILLIONS of dollars don’t get a piece of the pie (a pie that they’re baking) right now. You have a problem with them getting some of that back (within the rules!) by using their own names?

[IU Scott 2,375]

4 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

The players that are bringing in quite literally BILLIONS of dollars don’t get a piece of the pie (a pie that they’re baking) right now. You have a problem with them getting some of that back (within the rules!) by using their own names?

Yes they did because they got $50,000 plus a year in scholarships and everything else associated with being a college athlete.  If they want to get paid go play professionally and leave college basketball for guys who want to play college basketball.  I think the stupidest things I ever heard was when they were crying how college athletes had no money to eat on which was a bunch of crock. With scholarship money and stipends there is no way they should have been without money. Also I don't think individual players bring in the money but it is the name on the front that brings in the money.  Players come and go but the brand stays the same.

[Hovadipo 56,125]

6 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Yes they did because they got $50,000 plus a year in scholarships and everything else associated with being a college athlete.  If they want to get paid go play professionally and leave college basketball for guys who want to play college basketball.  I think the stupidest things I ever heard was when they were crying how college athletes had no money to eat on which was a bunch of crock. With scholarship money and stipends there is no way they should have been without money.

College basketball players don’t want to play college basketball because…they can now get paid to sign some autographs or play an old guy in a game of 1-on-1? 
 

The NCAA has a 10.8 billion with a B dollar TV deal to broadcast March Madness, but these kids should quit whining because they can afford to go get a #8 at Burger King and might just be able to sub that large drink for a milkshake if they stretch that rent stipend. Not sure what they have to complain about, back in my day…

[IU Scott 2,375]

7 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

College basketball players don’t want to play college basketball because…they can now get paid to sign some autographs or play an old guy in a game of 1-on-1? 
 

The NCAA has a 10.8 billion with a B dollar TV deal to broadcast March Madness, but these kids should quit whining because they can afford to go get a #8 at Burger King and might just be able to sub that large drink for a milkshake if they stretch that rent stipend. Not sure what they have to complain about, back in my day…

My daughter was on a full ride which came to $26,000. After her first year she moved off campus so didn't have a dorm.  She also didn't get a food plan the last 3 years.  So all the money that went to the room and board went directly to her. At the first of each semester she received around $10,000.  She was able to pay for her apartment and all of her food. I never had to help her out with money in her 4 years on Bloomington.  Athletes also get around $1000 a month for housing so there is no way they should have any problems buying good

[Hovadipo 56,125]

Just now, IU Scott said:

My daughter was on a full ride which came to $26,000. After her first year she moved off campus so didn't have a form.  She also get a food plan the last ,3 years.  So all the money that went to the ro and board went directly to her. At the first of each semester she received around $10,000.  She was a le to pay for her apartment and all of her food. I never had to help her out with money in her 4 years on Bloomington.  Athletes also get around $1000 a month for housing so there is no way they should have any problems buying good

If your daughter could get paid 6+ figures on top of her scholarship to make a few public appearances, copy and paste some tweets, and/or appear in marketing material, I’m guessing you wouldn’t be too upset about that. 

[IU Scott 2,375]

4 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

If your daughter could get paid 6+ figures on top of her scholarship to make a few public appearances, copy and paste some tweets, and/or appear in marketing material, I’m guessing you wouldn’t be too upset about that. 

I don't have a problem getting money from public appearances or doing some tweets.  There needs to be a limit on the amount you can get from them.  What I don't like is giving players cars or giving parents no show jobs or jobs they don't qualify for 

[Hoosierfan2017 21,346]

Just now, IU Scott said:

I don't have a problem getting money from public appearances or doing some tweets.  There needs to be a limit on the amount you can get from them.  What I don't like is giving players cars or giving parents no show jobs or jobs they don't qualify for 

Why does it matter so much to you? You’re not the one footing the bill. 

[Hovadipo 56,125]

1 minute ago, IU Scott said:

I don't have a problem getting money from public appearances or doing some tweets.  There needs to be a limit on the amount you can get from them.  What I don't like is giving players cars or giving parents no show jobs or jobs they don't qualify for 

You must not like it that much if you’re limiting what a kid can make lol. 
 

Kids getting cars and parents getting jobs doesn’t happen everywhere and it never has happened everywhere. It’s happening now in places that it always has. It’s the same ole college basketball in that regard. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,346]

You must not like it that much if you’re limiting what a kid can make lol. 
 
Kids getting cars and parents getting jobs doesn’t happen everywhere and it never has happened everywhere. It’s happening now in places that it always has. It’s the same ole college basketball in that regard. 

Yep, I projected the NIL wouldn’t change things in the college hierarchy of recruiting. It’s only a loophole to keep the NCAA in charge raking in dollars, and the FBI away from investigations. College recruiting has been dirty at least since the John Wooden days and maybe earlier. It slowly has gotten seedier over time with shoe companies and agents taking the place of boosters. Either way, I’m all for more transparency.


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[IU Scott 2,375]

7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Why does it matter so much to you? You’re not the one footing the bill. 

Because I don't think that is what college sports are about.  If I want to watch pro basketball I would watch the NBA.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,346]

Because I don't think that is what college sports are about.  If I want to watch pro basketball I would watch the NBA.

You’ve been watching the minor leagues for years and years and years and didn’t know it.


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[Hoosierfan2017 21,346]

6 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Because I don't think that is what college sports are about.  If I want to watch pro basketball I would watch the NBA.

Fortunately for you, no one will be confusing IU for a pro team anytime soon. Players have been getting paid this season and it’s the last thing on my mind when I watch a game.

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

You must not like it that much if you’re limiting what a kid can make lol. 
 

Kids getting cars and parents getting jobs doesn’t happen everywhere and it never has happened everywhere. It’s happening now in places that it always has. It’s the same ole college basketball in that regard. 

This has been my point. People are on here acting like giving away cars is easy, run of the mill and requires no "extra", but a lot of programs haven't been living in the "extra" to that extent.

There are actually people trying to equate a Target gift card on one end to a Porshe or a house on the other.

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I just don’t understand the pearl clutching around compensating players other than some idea about the sanctity of college athletics that has never really existed in practice. 
 

As it was pointed out above, the NCAA has a 10 figure tv deal just for their basketball tourney. College athletics is probably the only industry in the world where an entity can legally make that much money and not have to pay the workers who generate the revenue anything (and until recently have done everything they can to stop them from profiting outside their direct confines). I would even argue that it is a completely unethical business model. 
 

Sure you can say the athletes don’t NEED more compensation than they receive to get by, but that’s in the same way you could say that an NBA player or a CEO of a large company don’t NEED to earn more than the average worker to get by. Any pretense of fairness falls apart when you examine the value they add to their organizations. College football and basketball players for many D1 schools are for all intents and purposes workers for their schools, and some of the most valuable and lucrative ones at that. Sure you can say that a 5 figure scholarship is enough to justify the lack of a real salary, but that’s ignoring the fact that the cost of the education is generally bloated and overpriced in the first place, and that the scholarship cost the university almost nothing per player. When compared to the revenue that a player like Cody Zeller or Yogi Ferrall brought in over their career, it’s completely inadequate. 
 

I enjoy watching Indiana play but I have no pretensions about the reality of the business behind it. In an industry that deals in such large amounts of profit, amateurism doesn’t, and shouldn't really exist. If players playing for free and the love of the game is the end all be all of basketball for you then you should just watch high school. 

[Chris007 44,066]

Maybe I should post this here. New NIL group spearheaded by Cook. Calbert is on the BOD

https://hoosiersforgood.org/

 

[Kentuckysucks 2,259]

27 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Maybe I should post this here. New NIL group spearheaded by Cook. Calbert is on the BOD

https://hoosiersforgood.org/

 

Nope sorry.  Not donating a dime.

 

[Chris007 44,066]

Just now, Kentuckysucks said:

Nope sorry.  Not donating a dime.

 

It's a tax deduction if that helps

[vemmeistars 202]

Why does it matter if Glass in a legal/regulatory role? He's probably volunteering his time (or working for cheap) and it's not like he's deciding the coach or who gets recruited to IU. I'm aware this fund is intended for all sports, but I hope the vast majority of it goes to IU men's and women's hoops.

[RaceToTheTop 25,643]

15 hours ago, HoosierHoops1 said:

This has been my point. People are on here acting like giving away cars is easy, run of the mill and requires no "extra", but a lot of programs haven't been living in the "extra" to that extent.

There are actually people trying to equate a Target gift card on one end to a Porshe or a house on the other.

I heard Matt Nover got a tractor.