2022-23 IUBB Schedule

[go iu bb]

44 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

I'd say we have a 50% chance or better of winning in 3 of those games (sans Kansas), so I don't think I'd say we could easily lose all 4. Unless you would also say you could easily see us win all 4, which honestly is probably more likely (although also not very likely).

No way. Let's say IU had a 75% chance of winning each game. Then they'd have ~40% chance of winning 3 of 4. IU's odds of winning aren't that high so the chance of winning 3 is way lower than 50%.

[Southside]

5 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

Pre-season polls have IU ranked behind two of the four (UNC & Kansas) but barely ahead of Arizona which would make that game a toss up (unless IU beats UNC). It is more likely that we lose all three of those than win all three. Xavier is ranked a bit lower but still a top 30 team by most pre-season polls. Since we play Xavier on the road, that game is likely a tossup. I'm just saying let's keep our expectations in check. These will all be tough but hopefully winnable games.

I really doubt anyone expects us to sweep the 4. I'd assume most would simply be happy with a split.

I'm assuming we'll be even or slight road favorites when we go to Xavier.

Right now, I'm sure UNC would be healthy road favorites when they come to Bloomington. But that will depend of course on what we do vs Xavier, and what UNC does in the Phil Knight Invitational (#14 Nova, #18 OR, #19 Bama, #24 UConn, Mich. St.) out in Portland Nov24-27. But... UNC might be a bit worn out playing 3 games on the West Coast once they come to Bloomington only a few days after getting done in Portland. 

AZ will be a neutral site game (Vegas), and right now assume a toss up more or less. 

Kansas has a week off before we play them, and as of now, they'd be healthy home favorites. They play Duke early, and then the Battle for Atlantis, so we'll have a good idea what they look like prior to playing them. 

[HoosierX]

12 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

No way. Let's say IU had a 75% chance of winning each game. Then they'd have ~40% chance of winning 3 of 4. IU's odds of winning aren't that high so the chance of winning 3 is way lower than 50%.

Yep agreed. Which is why I said "in 3 of those games" instead of "3 games"

The same math would work in reverse for losing all the games, hence my point.

[go iu bb]

1 minute ago, HoosierX said:

Yep agreed. Which is why I said "in 3 of those games" instead of "3 games"

The same math would work in reverse for losing all the games, hence my point.

Sorry, misread it.

[HoosierHoopster]

2 hours ago, Honkyman said:

I disagree. Beating number #1 is always a bigger deal than beating number 8 or whatever Kansas is. Besides, Indiana plays North Carolina before they play Kansas (IU also plays Arizona before they play Kansas). If IU beats UNC and Arizona, they likely will go into Allen Field House as even odds to win. If IU loses to UNC and beats Kansas, it is a big deal except IU has already lost to Number One at home. 

We can disagree, a home game vs a W against KU at the Phog are just different animals to me. Even odds to win at the Phog? Seriously doubt that.

[Uspshoosier]

IU could be undefeated going into the Kansas game and they still won’t be favored to win that game.    Winning at Kansas would be one of the best wins of the year in all of college basketball if Kansas were to stay in the top 10.    A win doesn’t guarantee anything though.  Kentucky beat them by 100 last year at Phog and Kansas ended up having the last laugh and won it all.    It’s fun to speculate what IU’s record will be in these big matchups but in reality they are still just a piece of the overall puzzle.   IU could go O-4 in those games and still make the tourney and they could also go 4-0 in those games and miss 

[HoosierFan1994]

23 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

I looked it up: As coach at Kansas, Self has a record of 292–16 (.948 win percentage) at Allen Fieldhouse. That is INCLUDING conference games. I can't find the non-con record but it is even more ridiculous. In short, I'm chalking this up as an IU loss. This is what SSAH should be like. 

I have it as a loss too. Tough place to go to... even if I think Kansas will be a little down based on their standards. 

[HoosierHoopster]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

IU could be undefeated going into the Kansas game and they still won’t be favored to win that game.    Winning at Kansas would be one of the best wins of the year in all of college basketball if Kansas were to stay in the top 10.    A win doesn’t guarantee anything though.  Kentucky beat them by 100 last year at Phog and Kansas ended up having the last laugh and won it all.    It’s fun to speculate what IU’s record will be in these big matchups but in reality they are still just a piece of the overall puzzle.   IU could go O-4 in those games and still make the tourney and they could also go 4-0 in those games and miss 

Tried to say the same thing above. A win in the Phog would be a monster W.

Going to be a fun year regardless

[Hoosier DaDa]

Creans last season. We played UNC, Kansas, a top 25 Butler and then a top 10 Louisville 

That was such a disappointing season.

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[Brass Cannon]

1 hour ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

That was such a disappointing season.

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That started off so well

[TheWatShot]

9 hours ago, Honkyman said:

First, of all, IU could easily lose all four of these pre-conference games so it might be prudent to temper expectations. Even if we do, we will likely still be very good and among the top 4-5 in the Big Ten Conference. Secondly, a win at Kansas would be news but hardly "shock the college basketball world to its core." Beating North Carolina, even at home, would be a much bigger story since North Carolina is ranked number one. BTW, I saw IU beat Kansas in Allen Field House. Different era. Bobby Knight was IU's coach. IU's star player was center Steve Downing and its starting point guard was a freshman named Quinn Buckner. IU went to the Final Four and Kansas wasn't very good (8-18) that season.

College basketball fans remember us beating #1 UK at home 10 years ago, and #1 Michigan not long after that. We beat highly ranked UNC teams twice at home during that span. We have a history of showing up for those big games and feeding off the energy of our crowd. Those games are a lot fresher in the minds of basketball fans than IU beating a bad Kansas team 50 years ago. 

[Honkyman]

12 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Those games are a lot fresher in the minds of basketball fans than IU beating a bad Kansas team 50 years ago. 

Beating the Number #1 team in the country never loses its excitement level and its impact on the college basketball community. IU beat Kansas in 2016 so it's not like we've never beaten them.

[HoosierAloha]

UNC's at the top, but that's still a home game and we have a better shot at that game than beating KU on its floor, don't see a home win over UNC, if we get it, as a much bigger story than somehow beating KU at the Phog. They're 292-16 there and last lost there in 2018 after 2 decades of going undefeated there, not to mention they're the defending NC, Wilson, Harris and Yusefu returned, they got McCullar from Tech, have a top 5 recruiting class with 3 McD boys, and are themselves pre-season ranked in the top 5-10. A win at the Phog would be big time, whatever label someone wants to put on it.

IU could be undefeated going into the Kansas game and they still won’t be favored to win that game.    Winning at Kansas would be one of the best wins of the year in all of college basketball if Kansas were to stay in the top 10.    A win doesn’t guarantee anything though.  Kentucky beat them by 100 last year at Phog and Kansas ended up having the last laugh and won it all.    It’s fun to speculate what IU’s record will be in these big matchups but in reality they are still just a piece of the overall puzzle.   IU could go O-4 in those games and still make the tourney and they could also go 4-0 in those games and miss 

They’ve lost a home game each of the last three seasons all of which were double digit losses (I believe). Not sure where the undefeated at home since 2018 stat was pulled.


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[HoosierHoopster]

8 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

 

They’ve lost a home game each of the last three seasons all of which were double digit losses (I believe). Not sure where the undefeated at home since 2018 stat was pulled.


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Yeah my bad was working from memory, maybe I'm getting to old to do that lol. But real point is they barely/rarely lose at home, they've been consistently dominant in the Phog, it's been one of the hardest places in DI to get a W for decades. 2021-22 lost once, badly to UK - before going on to win the NC (and by 1 to Dayton neutral). 2020-21 lost 1, to rival UT.  2019-20 lost 1 by 12 to Baylor. If we were to win at KU, who have a team capable of repeating as NC, that would absolutely be a monster W, it's just not likely.

[LIHoosier]

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[Brass Cannon]

USC and UCLA are apparently joining the big ten.  Which means I’m not even sure at this point. But our schedule will be even more imbalanced in the near future 

[Uspshoosier]

Neutral court game against Miami(OH) Wins away from home add up.   Other schools do this all the time to pad that.  Good to see IU doing it as well.    Got to win the game of course 

[Hovadipo]

Nice to see the Arizona game confirmed. I don't remember ever seeing an actual announcement on that.

[LIHoosier]

Neutral court game against ball st.  Wins away from home add up.   Other schools do this all the time to pad that.  Good to see IU doing it as well.    Got to win the game of course 

Where are you seeing the Ball St game? It's not in the graphic or the press release.

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[Uspshoosier]

20 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

Where are you seeing the Ball St game? It's not in the graphic or the press release.

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Miami(OH) game.   My mistake.  I will edit