Mike Woodson and His Coaching Staff

[HoosierTrav]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Now the question is does Wittman consultant contract get renewed for another year along with the other guy? I will say Wittman is the person who put in most of the new sets at the end of the season to get some open 3 point looks. Maybe we just needed him shooting them.

The second question is do we lose Ya? Fife? or both?

I will make a lot of people upset with this one but if we lose one, I’d rather lose Fife. I value recruiters over assistant coaches who can’t gain the head coaches ear. I’ve never been sold on Fife’s coaching ability and am terrified at the thought of him becoming the head coach at IU. In my mind, if he were capable, he would have been able to win the summit athletic conference at least once. 

[BtownStrength]

Chris, you think it's a chance both bolt? Were Hunter's toes not stepped on with this? 

[Chris007]

6 minutes ago, BtownStrength said:

Chris, you think it's a chance both bolt? Were Hunter's toes not stepped on with this? 

I for sure think there is a chance we lose both. Ya at least has a place to go, Fife, I'm hearing is just not happy with his role.

If any of these three coaches had Woody's ear this year it was Hunter. 

[lillurk]

The bothersome part of this isn’t having a consultant, I don’t think. It’s the role confusion and frustration among the staff.

If Ya leaves, I would guess it has as much to do with his relationship with Kenny Payne as anything. He needed a second chance, CMW gave him one, it’s ok to have some asst coaching turnover. In this specific case I wonder if having another shot at a hire is helpful with a year of college coaching under CMW’s belt.

I have no inside info but would hope Fife stays. CMW and DF are reasonable people who can help each other, maybe they’ll hammer out differences and roles.

[Hoosierfan1901]

I think Ya is gone

[Golfman25]

56 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I hope not too but starting to have my doubts

That would be a bad look.  Iu guys need to back iu guys right now for the good of the program.  

[HoosierHoopster]

Honestly Woodson needs to listen to his college-experienced assistants on the bench. The whole consultant thing is kind of odd, it creates unnecessary division with the staff, who you brought in for their experience.

I remember a game where Woodson acknowledged in the post-game presser that he finally put Geronimo in because his assistants were yelling at him to do so, and then Geronimo had a great game. He needs to be giving his experienced staff more of his ear, or bring in a new assistant who he can rely on without looking outside. 

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Honestly Woodson needs to listen to his college-experienced assistants on the bench. The whole consultant thing is kind of odd, it creates unnecessary division with the staff, who you brought in for their experience.

I remember a game where Woodson acknowledged in the post-game presser that he finally put Geronimo in because his assistants were yelling at him to do so, and then Geronimo had a great game. He needs to be giving his experienced staff more of his ear, or bring in a new assistant who he can rely on without looking outside. 

But also remember he didn't bring these guys in. He was told he had to have Fife and was also told he had to keep Hunter. He brought is Ya but that's it

[vemmeistars]

Hunter a lock to come back? 

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, vemmeistars said:

Hunter a lock to come back? 

I think so unless a mid-major opens around the DC area or close by. 

[Banksyrules]

I don’t want yes men on the coaching roster.  Stubbornness usually leads to a coaches downfall. 

[HoosierHoopster]

14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But also remember he didn't bring these guys in. He was told he had to have Fife and was also told he had to keep Hunter. He brought is Ya but that's it

Fair point - but then bring in new assistants he will listen to

[MemphisHoosier]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think so unless a mid-major opens around the DC area or close by. 

Interesting, when I saw the GW job open I was curious if his camp would put out feelers or if he would have interest.  Also saw the La Salle & Lafayette gigs were open as well (although that may be a bridge too far for the DMV connection.)

[GloryDays]

 Isn't Ya the lead on all these Atlanta area studs we're on?

 Seems like a valuable asset to me.Woody needs to keep him IMHO.

[Stuhoo]

21 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But also remember he didn't bring these guys in. He was told he had to have Fife and was also told he had to keep Hunter. He brought is Ya but that's it

 

And he brought in Ya without knowing him. He came with the recommendation of Kenny Payne and WWWes. 

With Payne now at UL that is the danger spot.

 

[ceast11]

Here is a link to Jeff Rabjohns interview where he references Woody’s tendency to rely on 3 consultants opinions over his assistants. He’s got to get that fixed moving forward if we he wants to keep himself surrounded by high caliber assistant coaches. 
 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jeff-and-big-joe-show-podcast/id1213953865?i=1000554990673

[ap2345]

There’s talk Fife is currently buying a house in Bloomington. Seems odd for someone on the way out the door.

[IUc2016]

1 minute ago, ap2345 said:

There’s talk Fife is currently buying a house in Bloomington. Seems odd for someone on the way out the door.

He hasn't bought a house yet?

[Chris007]

10 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

He hasn't bought a house yet?

I think it seems odd someone has been here for a year with his family and hasn't bought a place.  Also closings can be stopped at any time. Might lose some money but it can be done. 

[ap2345]

18 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

He hasn't bought a house yet?

Not sure. Somebody on another board said he was buying one in their neighborhood.