Ooooook who’s your # 2?

[Stuhoo]

Just now, Demo said:

Ok, that point has merit. And getting Galloway to keep his hands off a guy 35’ out might be futile. 

Phinisee, Race, Galloway, Leal would look kinda stubby on that USC team. 

[kreigh8]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Bobby Knight?

Cant be Rick Pitino; he won’t be an option because he’s about to get hit with a show cause,

and also because outside of Dave Bliss he may be the biggest scumbag ever to patrol anyone’s sideline.

 

This wishful thinking or a final verdict from his time at Louisville? Read this earlier and wasn't aware of anything that he'd done at Iona

[Ryno6284]

7 minutes ago, JJacks said:

I've heard nothing but great things about him.  He was a really nice HS and small college player too. 

We need to start with baby steps!  Someone brought up us and UCLA.  I think that's where they went wrong, trying to run before you can walk.  If you do that, you end up, well, where they are and we are heading that way.  Greg knows how to coach, so what it is Div II.  

[ap2345]

Somehow I want Michael Lewis back at IU. Especially after listening to him on DD’s show this week. He’s tired of IU being bad just like everyone else and he didn’t care to say it even though he’s coaching at UCLA. 

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, kreigh8 said:

This wishful thinking or a final verdict from his time at Louisville? Read this earlier and wasn't aware of anything that he'd done at Iona

Louisville 

[ap2345]

2 minutes ago, Treesh said:

He hasn’t coached or recruited in four years.

You want a brain surgeon to perform on you after four years of sitting on the couch? 

He hasn’t forgotten how to coach but he would need a great staff around him. 

[Demo]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Phinisee, Race, Galloway, Leal would look kinda stubby on that USC team. 

I suspect the roster might look pretty different, pretty quickly.

[Vauxhall and IU]

6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Having to do this all again in four or five years is my only and overwhelming problem.

GREAT coach, great integrity, great guy. Everything except for a crucial thing.

 

4 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

I have concerns about Beilein but I will take him a million times out of a million over Alford.

100% on all this.

Like I said, all candidates have potential downsides. Beilein's unique downside is his age, so it's definitely something to consider. What I'm confused by is the number of people I see saying that hiring Beilein would end their IU fandom, etc. That's just bizarre to me. I don't relish the idea of another coaching search in 5 years but I'm genuinely curious why this would be such a deal breaker for so many people. Alford is like that for me, I wouldn't support this program with him as coach, but there's a perfectly good moral reason for that. Beilein's downsides are real but I can't imagine them being prohibitive to being an IU fan.

[Ryno6284]

10 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

There's no guarantee that ANY coach will succeed here or anywhere else... but no need going off the deep end on an NAIA guy... plenty of other quality fish in the sea...

I'm not old enough to remember, but what do you think IU fans thought when they hired RMK?  Who the hell is this guy?  Don't care where you are coaching now, you either have it or you don't!  Just because he is in the NAIA doesn't mean squat to me, if you can win!

[Banksyrules]

I just a coach that can coach good offense (what Miller lacked) and good defense (what Crean lacked). I hope that isn’t too much to ask for.  

[RaceToTheTop]

49 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

 

I WANT GREG TONAGEL!

God, no.  And if we are going to take anyone from Indiana Wesleyan, it would be Kyle Mangas....he'd be the best shooter on the team.

[Banksyrules]

Gotta admit. Pitino is a scumbag but he knows how to coach.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Chris Beard

Rick Pitino

CALBERT

[RaceToTheTop]

7 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

I'm not old enough to remember, but what do you think IU fans thought when they hired RMK?  Who the hell is this guy?  Don't care where you are coaching now, you either have it or you don't!  Just because he is in the NAIA doesn't mean squat to me, if you can win!

Different world than when RMK was hired.  Recruiting connections matter.  BTW, Archie Miller won at a high rate at a mid major but couldn't at IU....there is a reason that you don't bring players up from single A ball to the majors.  Just because you can hit A pitching doesn't mean you can hit 100 mph fastballs.

[RaceToTheTop]

Hire Michael Penix.......of course we'd better have a good assistant to finish the year.

[RaceToTheTop]

18 minutes ago, kreigh8 said:

This wishful thinking or a final verdict from his time at Louisville? Read this earlier and wasn't aware of anything that he'd done at Iona

It is a possibility from what I've read -- I'm guessing it doesn't happen, but it's a possibility -- final verdict from Louisville.  Don't know if it would effect his current position at Iona or just some place else that hired him.

[Ryno6284]

6 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Different world than when RMK was hired.  Recruiting connections matter.  BTW, Archie Miller won at a high rate at a mid major but couldn't at IU....there is a reason that you don't bring players up from single A ball to the majors.  Just because you can hit A pitching doesn't mean you can hit 100 mph fastballs.

Different world, same game.  We haven't had a teacher since RMK.

[kreigh8]

3 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Different world than when RMK was hired.  Recruiting connections matter.  BTW, Archie Miller won at a high rate at a mid major but couldn't at IU....there is a reason that you don't bring players up from single A ball to the majors.  Just because you can hit A pitching doesn't mean you can hit 100 mph fastballs.

I get what you're saying, but this isn't a great analogy. Fernando Tatis Jr only played 88 games at AA and before that was in A ball and he was pretty damn good his rookie year and now is one of the top 5 players in all of baseball in only his 2nd full season. Andrew Vaughn is likely to go from A ball in 2019 to the starting White Sox DH on opening day unless the Sox manipulate his service time for a few weeks when they break camp. Different sports and I totally get what you're aiming at, but just sayin' it's not completely unheard of in baseball.

[AZ Hoosier]

16 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

I'm not old enough to remember, but what do you think IU fans thought when they hired RMK?  Who the hell is this guy?  Don't care where you are coaching now, you either have it or you don't!  Just because he is in the NAIA doesn't mean squat to me, if you can win!

Can't say what anyone thought about RMK. I was a kid. Dad passed 11 years ago... I am sure some remember... but to the NAIA guy to Indiana, not sure we've sunk that low... let him pay his dues  in D-II, low D-I and/or mid-majors... despite what the past 25 years looks like, Indiana is not a place where you jump from NAIA to the B1G... 

And to remind everyone, Alford killed at Manchester College... and has been adequate at best beyond that.

[Ryno6284]

Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

Can't say what anyone thought about RMK. I was a kid. Dad passed 11 years ago... I am sure some remember... but to the NAIA guy to Indiana, not sure we've sunk that low... let him pay his dues  in D-II, low D-I and/or mid-majors... despite what the past 25 years looks like, Indiana is not a place where you jump from NAIA to the B1G... 

And to remind everyone, Alford killed at Manchester College... and has been adequate at best beyond that.

Like I said, I think we need to find "our' Brad Stevens.  Why can't we find the guy that no one else has found yet?  Everyone says, "RMK isn't walking through that door".  Well, No $hit, we are always chasing the flavor of the month!