Ooooook who’s your # 2?

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8 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I’ve known Woody has been on the radar—not gonna repeat paywall stuff until it’s public knowledge.
 

About Woodson? You’re wrong.

Woodson was an unsuccessful NBA coach...until he wasn’t. Took over a terrible team, lost a lot his first four years, and then won a lot in the NBA thereafter. And he’s been in the league ever since.

 The NBA doesn’t keep coaches around for giggles. Woody is good and he’s super connected to the league.

He’d need young blood to help with recruiting, but he’s no joke and he’s WAAAY better than Archie Miller or Stevie Alford. And he’s seven years younger than Beilein, with all kinds of ties to IU (of course).

Mike Woodson is an assistant coach for the worst style of play in the NBA. You thought Archie offense is bad.. you think Woodson is going to be better? LOL

People watch the Knicks for Quickly and Randle. They don’t watch for an amazing offense. This would be bad news bears. 

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One more thing—ANYONE that thinks Woodson would be similar to Archie?

For better or worse they Could. Not. Be. More. Different.

In personality, experience, university ties, coaching style...you name it.

NOT saying it would or wouldn’t work (Sam Story-like disclaimer) but to bring in a charismatic, high-integrity, hyper-NBA connected guy who bleeds Cream and Crimson?

We could do a helluva lot worse.

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We lost Stevens. Lost Beard just now to Texas. 
 

This is going swell! 

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We lost Stevens. Lost Beard just now to Texas. 
 
This is going swell! 

I doubt Texas is paying $20+M for one year for their basketball coach. That leaves less for their offensive line.

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Just now, rcs29 said:

I doubt Texas is paying $20+M for one year for their basketball coach. That leaves less for their offensive line.

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Texas prints their own money. Chris Beard would turn that program around. It’s the perfect fit. 

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Honestly, I want a guy that would want the guys we have on the roster staying.

Not necessarily for them staying, but because it's a pretty good gauge of how well recruits might view the hire.  I'm not sure Mike Woodson will do that.

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Woodson and Alford should be on the same "do not call" list.

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3 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Mike Woodson is an assistant coach for the worst style of play in the NBA. You thought Archie offense is bad.. you think Woodson is going to be better? LOL

People watch the Knicks for Quickly and Randle. They don’t watch for an amazing offense. This would be bad news bears. 

Oh please.

Woodson is in his FIRST year as an assistant with the Knicks. You want to BLAME him for being associated with the best year the Knicks have had in half a decade?

Before that he was assistant to Doc with the Clips for the best years in their franchise history. Like... GREAT years. Are you REALLY trying to say you know more about who is a good coach than Doc Freakin Rivers?

Woody’s last five years as an NBA head coach? 
47-35, 53-29, 18-6, 54-28, 37-45.

That’s pretty damn good too.

You are SEVERELY underestimating the accomplishments of a guy who loves IU and is a  really good coach. He’d need some real recruiting help, but the man is solid.

 

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He’s also wearing a god blessed NBA and IU championship ring. Players want to get the league. He’s been in the league for the past THIRTY YEARS STRAIGHT.

Don’t have all think 17 year olds and their parents might think that’s kinda good?

 The man is NOTHING like Archie Miller or for that matter Tom Crean.

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1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Oh please.

Woodson is in his FIRST year as an assistant with the Knicks. You want to BLAME him for being associated with the best year the Knicks have had in half a decade?

Before that he was assistant to Doc with the Clips for the best years in their franchise history. Like... GREAT years. Are you REALLY trying to say you know more about who is a good coach than Doc Freakin Rivers?

Woody’s last five years as an NBA head coach? 
47-35, 53-29, 18-6, 54-28, 37-45.

That’s pretty damn good too.

You are SEVERELY underestimating the accomplishments of a guy who loves IU and is a  really good coach. He’d need some real recruiting help, but the man is solid.

 

Needing real recruiting help scares me.  That is a huge issue IMO when you are moving toward  a new coach, especially with the transfer rule.  

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Oh please.
Woodson is in his FIRST year as an assistant with the Knicks. You want to BLAME him for being associated with the best year the Knicks have had in half a decade?
Before that he was assistant to Doc with the Clips for the best years in their franchise history. Like... GREAT years. Are you REALLY trying to say you know more about who is a good coach than Doc Freakin Rivers?
Woody’s last five years as an NBA head coach? 
47-35, 53-29, 18-6, 54-28, 37-45.
That’s pretty damn good too.
You are SEVERELY underestimating the accomplishments of a guy who loves IU and is a  really good coach. He’d need some real recruiting help, but the man is solid.
 

I agree. Although off my radar for the most part he's a Michael Lewis from having a good shot. I don't care who the coach is I'm going to give him a shot. We could do worse than Mike Woodson. He won when he really shouldn't have in the NBA. If he's the coach let's see how it goes.

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7 minutes ago, Zachetology said:

Woodson and Alford should be on the same "do not call" list.

One of them is an all time Hoosier great in high school and at IU who was a first round NBA draft pick, is beloved by Bobby Knight and all former IU players, is completely respected by the best coaches in the world, and is a great guy, both professionally and on a personal level.

 The other one is Steve Alford.

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2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Oh please.

Woodson is in his FIRST year as an assistant with the Knicks. You want to BLAME him for being associated with the best year the Knicks have had in half a decade?

Before that he was assistant to Doc with the Clips for the best years in their franchise history. Like... GREAT years. Are you REALLY trying to say you know more about who is a good coach than Doc Freakin Rivers?

Woody’s last five years as an NBA head coach? 
47-35, 53-29, 18-6, 54-28, 37-45.

That’s pretty damn good too.

You are SEVERELY underestimating the accomplishments of a guy who loves IU and is a  really good coach. He’d need some real recruiting help, but the man is solid.

 

I watch NBA mostly and there is a reason why Mike Woodson isn’t a head coach. It’s the same reason Marc Jackson isn’t a head coach. 
 

His last stint was when the NBA was different. Roy Hibbert was a starting center in the NBA for Christ sakes. 2014 to 2021 has changed in terms of style of play in the NBA. 
 

Im sure he’s a great guy. I’m too young to even know he played for Indiana. (I knew he played here) But again with the connections, if he wasn’t an IU grad then he wouldn’t be considered for this job at all. We might as well Hire Jason Kidd! Throw in Alvin Gentry! 
 

If you want to go the Indiana connections route. Go with a young coach that recruits already know and see at each recruiting event. Dane ******* Fife! Hire Lewis as an associate head coach and call it your Indiana guy. 

 

Dane Fire is the Indiana guy, not Mike Woodson. 

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Just now, rcs29 said:

I agree. Although off my radar for the most part he's a Michael Lewis from having a good shot. I don't care who the coach is I'm going to give him a shot. We could do worse than Mike Woodson. He won when he really shouldn't have in the NBA. If he's the coach let's see how it goes.

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As I've said, I'm going to root for whoever we get.  

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Just now, rcs29 said:

I agree. Although off my radar for the most part he's a Michael Lewis from having a good shot. I don't care who the coach is I'm going to give him a shot. We could do worse than Mike Woodson. He won when he really shouldn't have in the NBA. If he's the coach let's see how it goes.

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Exactly. And Mike Woodson is plenty smart enough to realize he’ll need some young recruiting energy.

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Just now, Treesh said:

I watch NBA mostly and there is a reason why Mike Woodson isn’t a head coach. It’s the same reason Marc Jackson isn’t a head coach. 
 

His last stint was when the NBA was different. Roy Hibbert was a starting center in the NBA for Christ sakes. 2014 to 2021 has changed in terms of style of play in the NBA. 
 

 

Kevin Durant was MVP in 2014.  LeBron James was runner-up.  They weren't exactly throwing balls into peach baskets in 2014.

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That would be a huge surprise, but I would never say a bad thing about Mike Woodson. Legend!

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1 hour ago, Treesh said:

Guess my days are numbered here if that happens :(

I never understand this kind of thinking, are you an IU fan or not.  You should back any coach who comes in here until he proves he can't do the job.  No wonder a lot of coaches probably are interested in coming her is the fan base.  we as IU fans see this as a destination job to about any coach in the country.  today with how college basketball is that a great coach at a place like TT or Villanova doesn't have to look at places like IU to win.  I will back whoever the next coach at  IU is and will give him support for 4 years to see what he can do.  I think bring in an IU guy might be something that might work or at least should be given a chance.  we have done everything else by bring in a know cheater, brought in a guy who went to a final four and an up and coming mid major coach.

I know if an IU guy like Woodson is hired I will stop coming to message boards because I a tired of how this fan base turns on people when they don't get their way.  How do you expect this program ever to win again if half the fan base turns on them and not backs them.  I have been ripped for years on HSN saying that our fan base is part of the reason we are no longer an elite program.  we don't see it but everyone else sees that IU is no longer an elite program that coaches will want to flock to.  We don't ;like when national people say these things but they are pretty much correct about this fan base.

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33 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I watch NBA mostly and there is a reason why Mike Woodson isn’t a head coach. It’s the same reason Marc Jackson isn’t a head coach. 
 

His last stint was when the NBA was different. Roy Hibbert was a starting center in the NBA for Christ sakes. 2014 to 2021 has changed in terms of style of play in the NBA. 
 

Im sure he’s a great guy. I’m too young to even know he played for Indiana. (I knew he played here)

His last stint in the NBA is now. He’s been in demand from the day he retired as a player. (Not sure what in g_D’s name Roy Hubert has to do with lol)

Wanna know how he played for Indiana? A true leader on a championship level team. And B1G mvp. That’s how he played.

I  love you Treesh; you’re funny and interesting, but your hot take is way too hot— you need to reassess.

 

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59 minutes ago, Crazy about IU said:

Abilene Christian coach watching them against Texas . Up 3 less then 7 minutes to go . They are definitely a well coached team. 

The last 6 minutes he didn't coach well because he was playing to run the clock down and not trying to score.