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Posted
Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

How much is Tonagel paying you to carry his water? I'm only half-way joking...

I wish he was.  I don't know what happened to me today?  I've been drinking and got deep in thought.  I thought I had an epiphany about IU basketball.  I guess I'm the crazy one!

Posted
45 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

Man, I wish you guys were closer to me geographically.  We could sit around for hours discussing IU basketball and drinking beers!  I hate typing $hit out!  My mind goes faster than I can hunt and peck!

I would to minus the beer

Posted
17 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I am having trouble reconciling the Knight/Beard/IU thing... Beard worked for Knight immediately after Knight was fired at IU... Knight was extremely bitter -- even vitriolic towards IU... I cannot imagine Beard not hearing any of that, and 10 years of Knight and Patrick beating that drum has to have had some impact in Beard's head... 

All of the IU admin that fired Knight is long gone, and Knight has ultimately reconciled (at least to some extent) towards IU, but is that enough to make all of that history a non-issue for Beard?

The thing is none of the people who fired RMK are no longer at IU

Posted
10 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

In the case of Beilein, 4 years is about all he has... I just can't see hiring a dead-end like that... even if JB turns things around, who's to say when his shelf life is up, that the next guy can keep it going?

I can see 6 easily because there are coaches still working that is over 74

Posted
8 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

The thing is none of the people who fired RMK are no longer at IU

Actually ALL of the people who fired RMK are no longer at IU... I said as much in my post...

but RMK carried that grudge for a long time after Myles Brand died... 

Posted
2 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Actually ALL of the people who fired RMK are no longer at IU... I said as much in my post...

but RMK carried that grudge for a long time after Myles Brand died... 

Yes, Bob did. Pat didn't.  Few people can hold a grudge like Knight. There's no reason for Beard to have any grudge in the first place. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, hoosierbgh said:

Yes, Bob did. Pat didn't.  Few people can hold a grudge like Knight. There's no reason for Beard to have any grudge in the first place. 

Understood. I am not arguing for it... just asking about it... I mean, if you got RMK throwing that much shade on anything, it would have to color your thinking to some extent whether or not you have cause for the grudge.

If it is truly a non-issue, then I'm good with it... just asking because, well, who knows?

Posted
Understood. I am not arguing for it... just asking about it... I mean, if you got RMK throwing that much shade on anything, it would have to color your thinking to some extent whether or not you have cause for the grudge.
If it is truly a non-issue, then I'm good with it... just asking because, well, who knows?
Yea I think knight being back in bloomington is a bigger factor than what a scorned coach said after he was fired. Beard is also smart enough to know those people are gone. Other than his family being in Texas if you have a chance to leave tech for a big time program i think you probably do that. Just my opinion

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Posted
11 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Yea I think knight being back in bloomington is a bigger factor than what a scorned coach said after he was fired. Beard is also smart enough to know those people are gone. Other than his family being in Texas if you have a chance to leave tech for a big time program i think you probably do that. Just my opinion

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For all we know, RMK told Beard, IU has the best fans in all of college basketball!  The administration............not so much! 

Posted
1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I am having trouble reconciling the Knight/Beard/IU thing... Beard worked for Knight immediately after Knight was fired at IU... Knight was extremely bitter -- even vitriolic towards IU... I cannot imagine Beard not hearing any of that, and 10 years of Knight and Patrick beating that drum has to have had some impact in Beard's head... 

All of the IU admin that fired Knight is long gone, and Knight has ultimately reconciled (at least to some extent) towards IU, but is that enough to make all of that history a non-issue for Beard?

I feel like it was said on this board a while back that Beard and Pat knight are actually really close friends. So regardless of what Bobby may have led Beard to believe, his friendship with Pat may outweigh it. Not exactly sure who said that here. Does that ring a bell to anyone else?

Posted
1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

In the case of Beilein, 4 years is about all he has... I just can't see hiring a dead-end like that... even if JB turns things around, who's to say when his shelf life is up, that the next guy can keep it going?

You realize if you don't hire JB, that the "next guy" you are worried about might actually be the one hired in his place? So, if he "can't keep it going" after JB, are you counting on him to "keep it going" right now?

Posted
5 minutes ago, T White said:

You realize if you don't hire JB, that the "next guy" you are worried about might actually be the one hired in his place? So, if he "can't keep it going" after JB, are you counting on him to "keep it going" right now?

I honestly don't know. It just seems strange to me to hire a guy who you know that you will be replacing in a few (pick a number) years... as opposed to finding a guy who realistically could be a 20-year guy... 

I actually have nothing against Beilein... just kind of "thinking out loud"... and why borrow trouble down the line? If you can get THE guy now, why wait 4, 5, or 6 years to get him?

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