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59 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Professors here in town want Whitten gone, if she ok's the hire of Beard, that is all they need to push her out the door. 

Have been following this from afar; have I understood right that it seems like she had a hand in holding off on Fitzgerald and going ahead with the Cignetti hire?

After all IU's success last year in football, I'm sure the anti-Whitten contingent is grinding their teeth. 

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Good post. Of course, if we get Stevens that is awesome. But it comes down to the fork in the road. If it’s between Beard and a McCollum and we choose McCollum…well you get the point. It’s this line of thinking and decision making which reflects why we’ve sucked for so long. Many of these same people probably didn’t want Pitino or Pearl or didn’t like Sampson…yet there’s a common denominator with all 3 coaches…they have National Title Contending Programs seemingly every single .year. Beard has a far more likelihood of succeeding here than a lot of names being thrown out….but sure, let’s hand over the reigns a guy that has coached 2 quad 1 games in his life, has all his players leaving after this year and pray to God he turns into Bo Ryan and not a Todd licklighter, or Archie Miller or the countless of other “up and coming coaches.” Give me a break. 
And when we are doing this again in four years iu would have nobody buts itself to blame. Hiring a guy with one year of division one experience would be plain stupid and a massive risk.

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Stevens (48)

- overall record (college only)

-166-49 (84-22) Horizon/A10 (11-5 in one season)

-5 NCAA appearances and 2x NC runner up 12-5

-3x Horizon conference champion and 3x Horizon tournament champion

 

Donovan (59)

- overall record (college only)

-467-186 (200-100) Southern (2 years 18-10)/SEC

-14 NCAA appearances 2x NC, 1 NC runner up, 1 FF, 3 EE's, 1 S16 (35-12)

-6x SEC champion and 4x SEC tournament champion

 

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12 minutes ago, Sandman said:

Should Ole Miss fire him immediately?

No.  Ole Miss was the perfect landing spot for him with his past.   He was always going to get another job but most felt it would be at the lower level at first and then a high major program with 0 basketball history most likely in the SEC because historically that conference has looked  past coaches with a questionable background.   Ole Miss had nothing to lose and was probably their only chance to land a coach with his success.   The question with him was always going to be will a school with basketball history take a risk on him.   No question he wants back at a program where he can win big.  Time will tell if any program takes on the risk 

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25 minutes ago, Jim IV22 said:

Any chance we can open a Beard DV chat and move this convo elsewhere? Just asking.... 

Agreed. The Turgeon stuff got moved to a different thread, but the Beard stuff is way more distracting, contentious, and repetitive. 

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1 minute ago, rcbowla said:

Stevens - overall record (college only)

166-49 (84-22) Horizon/A10 (11-5 in one season)

5 NCAA appearances and 2x NC runner up 12-5

3x Horizon conference champion and 3x Horizon tournament champion

 

Donovan- overall record (college only)

467-186 (200-100) Southern (2 years 18-10)/SEC

14 NCAA appearances 2x NC, 1 NC runner up, 1 FF, 3 EE's, 1 S16 (35-12)

6x SEC champion and 4x SEC tournament champion

 

So I knew this but holy crap how great was Donovan and why does he not get more talk as the GOAT of college ball coaches?

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No.  Ole Miss was the perfect landing spot for him with his past.   He was always going to get another job but most felt it would be at the lower level at first and then a high major program with 0 basketball history most likely in the SEC because historically that conference has looked  past coaches with a questionable background.   Ole Miss had nothing to lose and was probably their only chance to land a coach with his success.   The question with him was always going to be will a school with basketball history take a risk on him.   No question he wants back at a program where he can win big.  Time will tell if any program takes on the risk 
Somebody will take the risk. They took the risks on pitino and sampson and they both now have top ten teams

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5 minutes ago, MBORO615 said:

I'm an Ole Miss baseball fan and follow their boards and program closely. In Chris Beard's time in Oxford, he has not had a single alcohol event that has been reported. Oxford is an easy place to find alcohol, so it's not like he wouldn't have the opportunity.

Their fanbase's biggest concern is that he hasn't bought a house in town yet.

 

Lane Kiffin, Chris Beard, and Mike Bianco is a badass trio of coaches. 

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1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Lane Kiffin, Chris Beard, and Mike Bianco is a badass trio of coaches. 

Agreed. Mike Bianco is not a very popular man though haha.

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22 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

Here's an exercise I think I'm going to try to do:

Side by side comparison of 2 similar (resume wise) candidates. Just not sure what the best criteria to use are. Anyhow here are some of my combos and feel free to add on.

Stevens-Donovan

Drew-Few

McCollum-Schertz

Woodson-Turgeon (this one is a joke)

Byington-Devries

Gates-Collins 

McCasland-Otzelberger

 

Stevens

Drew - Younger and more outgoing. I worry about Few's introverted personality and age. And, of course, the fact that he's coached in a mid-major for years. 

McCollum - I wouldn't be unhappy with this choice.

Turgeon (this one is a joke) - ABW - Anyone but Woody

Byington - Love Devries, but I find Byington really intriguing. Not ready for a job like IU, but I think he's going to be great. 

Collins - Can't ignore Gates' awful season. 

Otzelberger - Otz is my choice after Stevens. He's young and has done a great job at a tough place to win big. 

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2 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Somebody will take the risk. They took the risks on pitino and sampson and they both now have top ten teams

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Maybe. Only time will tell 

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1 minute ago, MBORO615 said:

Agreed. Mike Bianco is not a very popular man though haha.

Y'all fools if you don't cherish him. 

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