General Coach Candidate News

[DSUMMITT]

14 minutes ago, JPCIVOP said:

Steve Forbes! Haven't seen that name yet; add him to the board!

Personally, would not. Hasn't yet made a tournament at Wake, though they've been better with him than the last two coaches.

I get that and I don't love his avg OffRtg and DefRtg but I do think Clemson has a much better NiL and just program money/budget - 99% because of football support. Forbes for me is a +6th pick but still above Brownell. We failed on a lot to get here imho.

Guess I'm saying between Brownell vs Forbes - Forbes has done more with less.

Edited February 28, 2025 by DSUMMITT

[Kentuckysucks]

Some good points here.   Now which of our potential targets set the single season win record at their prior school?

 

[Ryno6284]

Ed DeChellis anyone? Just what IU needs! Calling my shot now to get out in front of the crowd!

[Shoes_N_Shorts]

4 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Pretty wild that you're so dismissive of Cronin but consider Drew a home run. Yes Drew has a national title, and yes that inflates his overall NCAAT record, but Scott Drew is the king of first weekend exits. Honestly one of the biggest knocks on him, that and his teams generally don't play defense (which lead to early exits) and he's barely over .500 in the B12.

I say that and I like Scott Drew a lot. But Scott Drew and Mick Cronin are very similar coaches in my opinion and you're completely dismissive of one and falling over for the other.

Wiemuth had some good stats about offensive efficiency vs. defensive efficiency for championship teams. i don't have the exact #s, but something like the last 10 national champs have had a higher offensive rating than defensive per kenpom. The argument against Cronin as it relates to Drew (other than his lack of championships), is about style of play/ strengths of the system. 

In today's game, offense is paramount. 

[AZ Hoosier]

28 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Question: Does anyone know the benefit of negotiating a lower buyout if you have no plans of leaving? I cannot really make sense of it. Not trying to insinuate anything with this question just trying to understand 

He may want out of Ames ... and it may/may not be to IU... there will be other openings in a month, for sure... but I agree that it's puzzling...

[Truthhurts]

6 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

It doesn't... but it does retain the font/formatting from the source from which you are copying...

I think it must be only if you’re on mobile. Not sure. Maybe I’m just technologically illiterate. 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Shoes_N_Shorts said:

Wiemuth had some good stats about offensive efficiency vs. defensive efficiency for championship teams. i don't have the exact #s, but something like the last 10 national champs have had a higher offensive rating than defensive per kenpom. The argument against Cronin as it relates to Drew (other than his lack of championships), is about style of play/ strengths of the system. 

In today's game, offense is paramount. 

Cronin has had three top 20 KenPom offenses in 6 years at UCLA. Could be better but obviously a lot worse. But his teams for the most part excel on the defensive end. And more importantly, his teams are tough. I can't tell you the last time Indiana has had a tough-minded team. Give me a coach who emphasizes toughness with IU's resources and you'll produce a consistent winner. 

[JPCIVOP]

3 minutes ago, DSUMMITT said:

I get that and I don't love his avg OffRtg and DefRtg but I do think Clemson has a much better NiL and just program money/budget - 99% because of football support. Forbes for me is a +6th pick but still above Brownell. We failed on a lot to get here imho.

Guess I'm saying between Brownell vs Forbes - Forbes has done more with less.

That's a good point; Wake is really in a tough spot in the ACC. They've been in a dry spell since Skip & Dino, for sure.

[lillurk]

Just now, Shoes_N_Shorts said:

Wiemuth had some good stats about offensive efficiency vs. defensive efficiency for championship teams. i don't have the exact #s, but something like the last 10 national champs have had a higher offensive rating than defensive per kenpom. The argument against Cronin as it relates to Drew (other than his lack of championships), is about style of play/ strengths of the system. 

In today's game, offense is paramount. 

Absolutely. Offenses have more control over the game, and good offense beats good defense, so you want to be the best defense you can be but the other side is more important.

[Truthhurts]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm going to try but I might need to see it a little more than a couple of posts. And he attacks me every time

I’m going to try with you too, good sir. You seem like a nice guy. I certainly believe you routinely overstate how much you hear about things, and we’re gonna disagree about stuff, but that doesn’t mean you’re a bad guy and I’m not gonna attack anymore because it’s fruitless. Sorry. Cheers and have a good weekend. 

[pumpfake]

8 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

Ed DeChellis anyone? Just what IU needs! Calling my shot now to get out in front of the crowd!

If only Ricky Birdsong were still around.....

[Chris007]

Just now, Truthhurts said:

I’m going to try with you too, good sir. You seem like a nice guy. I certainly believe you routinely overstate how much you hear about things, and we’re gonna disagree about stuff, but that doesn’t mean you’re a bad guy and I’m not gonna attack anymore because it’s fruitless. Sorry. Cheers and have a good weekend. 

I appreciate that. No matter what either of us hears, we both want what's best for IU. I definitely don't think you're a bad person. Thank you and I hope you do the same

[TargaFlorio]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Exactly. Remember what I said anyone who says it is 100% is getting bad info. If you asked Brad today he would tell you it's not 100%

But he loves working with the Celtics so much that his contract ends in 3 months.

If Stevens' contract ends in a few months (I don't have that confirmed), his lack of an extension is very likely linked to the impending sale and not his happiness with the franchise. I think we'll see an extension for him announced at the time the new ownership group is announced. That's assuming its his preferred group. 

[pumpfake]

2 minutes ago, Truthhurts said:

I’m going to try with you too, good sir. You seem like a nice guy. I certainly believe you routinely overstate how much you hear about things, and we’re gonna disagree about stuff, but that doesn’t mean you’re a bad guy and I’m not gonna attack anymore because it’s fruitless. Sorry. Cheers and have a good weekend. 

This is called a "back-handed compliment".

[BehindTheBench]

Just now, TargaFlorio said:

If Stevens' contract ends in a few months (I don't have that confirmed), his lack of an extension is very likely linked to the impending sale and not his happiness with the franchise. I think we'll see an extension for him announced at the time the new ownership group is announced. That's assuming its his preferred group. 

I think we'll see an extension for him announced after year 3 in Bloomington. 

[Truthhurts]

Just now, pumpfake said:

This is called a "back-handed compliment".

It’s Friday, the sun is shining,  winter is almost over, and IU is gonna hire super star in the making Ben McCollum. Let’s all have a beer and be happy. 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

If it’s not Stevens (sorry just can’t let go yet) or Drew, my prediction is McDermott

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, TargaFlorio said:

If Stevens' contract ends in a few months (I don't have that confirmed), his lack of an extension is very likely linked to the impending sale and not his happiness with the franchise. I think we'll see an extension for him announced at the time the new ownership group is announced. That's assuming its his preferred group. 

I was told it is in June but not sure what date for sure. But you are correct that is what it could mean. But from the IU side people state he has said he misses the coaching aspect of it. But that could be slanted our way

[Kentuckysucks]

Just now, Hoosierfanyuh said:

If it’s not Stevens (sorry just can’t let go yet) or Drew, my prediction is McDermott

I’ll never understand the McDermott love. I’m very confident he’d be an epic failure.  I can’t always spot success even if it’s right in front of me but I can almost always spot a train wreck a mile away.  We do not want McDermott.

[GloryDays]

2 hours ago, maharkn said:

Few has that DUI does that count as not pure

If I'd had as many high seeds crap out as he's had I'd lose my drivers license.

Not a fan.