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14 minutes ago, ISP said:

I've seen a number of posters and tweeters mention that they are pretty certain it is Oats. I would personally love that. But I have seen /heard zero evidence that Dolson is "zeroing" or back channeling in on him. Did I miss something substantial?

The way this search is playing out, it’s the lack of evidence that means we likely are taking with him. Not saying we get him.

But how cool would it be if both our basketball and football coach went to Maranatha Baptist?

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9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

No. You did not.

There are a LOT of wishful thinking posts with no evidence whatsoever.

Oats is locked in to a place for which price is no object.

 

Although, if given the choice between giving their basketball coach a larger paycheck or putting gold plated toilets in the football locker room, Bama would seriously consider the toilets

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3 minutes ago, Hoosier_Hatchet said:

What would cause him the most grief on Twitter?  If we (IU twitter fanbase) collectively worked together, we would really trouble him.  Block him?  Unfollow him?  Any other ideas?  

I can't unfollow him... just can't do it. (I've never followed him.)

Just ignore him... typical trollish behavior - just looking for a response which feeds his behavior.

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This may not be a popular opinion, but I am now starting to come around to the opinion that what Goodman is doing with IU, during March madness, is awesome!

He’s doing everything possible to Tweet Indiana’s basketball program into the national spotlight.

i’m not seeing any Grand Canyon State, or southwest Missouri State type teams on that list. What I’m seeing is him listing us as one of the most passionate, big time programs.

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1 hour ago, str8baller said:

I can almost guarantee you that the AD isn’t vetting coaching through disgruntled transferred players.  
 

I have no idea if it’s Musselman, but Justin Smith won’t have a thing to do with the search. 

Lol. No. Dolson is def not calling up Justin Smith and asking for advice. 

 

What I meant is that players talk about their coaches. I doubt Justin Smith just cut off all ties to anyone at Indiana. It wouldn't surprise me if some of his chatter about the program and Musselman made its way back to Dolson. 

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2 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

The only scenario it makes sense is if Dolson hires Beilein... but I suspect that if he was going that direction, we'd be done with the search... since he's not done, it's not happening, and the coach in waiting thing is a non-starter.

Why. That could still be plan B, C or D. I know a former player talked with IU and is ready to come.  I think they would prefer to be plan A, may have even thought they were, but seems not to be the case. Doesn’t mean Dolsons priorities change when plan A is done. 

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4 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Why. That could still be plan B, C or D. I know a former player talked with IU and is ready to come.  I think they would prefer to be plan A, may have even thought they were, but seems not to be the case. Doesn’t mean Dolsons priorities change when plan A is done. 

Why? Because hiring a "coach in waiting" shows a lack of long-term confidence in the guy you hired to run the program. It's says "Here are the keys to the kingdom, but don't put them on your key ring, and don't hang any pictures in your office... we've got this guy waiting in the wings for when we replace you in X years".

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7 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Why? Because hiring a "coach in waiting" shows a lack of long-term confidence in the guy you hired to run the program. It's says "Here are the keys to the kingdom, but don't put them on your key ring, and don't hang any pictures in your office... we've got this guy waiting in the wings for when we replace you in X years".

But as you said, it makes some sense if it is Beilein you just dont think it makes sense because we are still waiting. That could very well be Plan B. Dolson probably does not have to rush on Plan B unless Beilein starts getting looks elsewhere and I have not heard him mentioned anywhere 

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31 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:


I’d love that. If we are getting an Up and Comer, he’s #1 in my book.


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He's gotta a little Bobby Knight in him too... So that should bring back good memories for the older folks. 

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If Holtmann manufactured this rumor for purposes of engineering an extension from OSU, why would he leak that he'd turned it down and intended to stay in Columbus? You'd want to leave open the possibility that you might leave, to increase your leverage.

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Just now, IU Prof said:

If Holtmann manufactured this rumor for purposes of engineering an extension from OSU, why would he leak that he'd turned it down and intended to stay in Columbus? You'd want to leave open the possibility that you might leave, to increase your leverage.

Just to show other schools the caliber of Indiana are interested is enough. It incentivizes OSU to lock him up for longer. 

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Meanwhile, on Oats, you also wouldn't necessarily need a donor to have committed to paying off the full $12 million buyout, just potentially part of it. If a donor was willing to chip in $6 million, and IU was willing to offer Oats, say, $5.5 million/year, he still comes out around $1 million ahead of his current contract even with contributing $1 million/year himself for his buyout.

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1 minute ago, IU Prof said:

Meanwhile, on Oats, you also wouldn't necessarily need a donor to have committed to paying off the full $12 million buyout, just potentially part of it. If a donor was willing to chip in $6 million, and IU was willing to offer Oats, say, $5.5 million/year, he still comes out around $1 million ahead of his current contract even with contributing $1 million/year himself for his buyout.

I thought that I read somewhere on this site that McRobbie said no additional cost to IU... meaning (without donor infusion) that the IU athletic department would pay the new guy no more than Archie was getting per his contract...

IF that's true, we would need donor cash for the buyout (transition costs?) and for additional salary.

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4 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Meanwhile, on Oats, you also wouldn't necessarily need a donor to have committed to paying off the full $12 million buyout, just potentially part of it. If a donor was willing to chip in $6 million, and IU was willing to offer Oats, say, $5.5 million/year, he still comes out around $1 million ahead of his current contract even with contributing $1 million/year himself for his buyout.

Or Adidas could jump in and pay the remaining part. If they still do that. 

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2 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I thought that I read somewhere on this site that McRobbie said no additional cost to IU... meaning (without donor infusion) that the IU athletic department would pay the new guy no more than Archie was getting per his contract...

IF that's true, we would need donor cash for the buyout (transition costs?) and for additional salary.

Interesting. If so, then scratch my post.

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