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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,295]

Has anyone created a meme yet with Mike Woodson as the train conductor? We all might as well hop on. 

[coonhounds 10,555]

Outcome #1:  We hire an IU guy; he's wildly successful and the IU guy camp screams and shouts we should have done this when we hired Crean.
Outcome #2:  We hire an outsider; he's wildly successful and the need an IU guy mantra fades into memory.
Outcome #3:  We hire an IU guy; he flops badly and the need an IU guy mantra fades into memory.
Outcome #4:  We hire an outsider; he flops badly and the IU guy camp screams and shouts we need an IU guy.
Pretty much sums it up doesn't it?

Yes. But in fairness the iu guy camp hasn't gotten their chance yet

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[Dave from Dayton 4,011]

21 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Outcome #1:  We hire an IU guy; he's wildly successful and the IU guy camp screams and shouts we should have done this when we hired Crean.

Outcome #2:  We hire an outsider; he's wildly successful and the need an IU guy mantra fades into memory.

Outcome #3:  We hire an IU guy; he flops badly and the need an IU guy mantra fades into memory.

Outcome #4:  We hire an outsider; he flops badly and the IU guy camp screams and shouts we need an IU guy.

Pretty much sums it up doesn't it?

Not a bad summary.   But, there may be more options available:

#5:  IU hires an IU guy that has been an outsider and he either flops or succeeds...(ie. Fife);

#6:  IU hires one or the other and he is up and down and barely hangs on but no NC banner...

#7.  IU hires an IU guy for 4 years with an outsider as the heir apparent who takes over;

#8.  IU hires an outsider for 4 years and and IU guy takes over;

#9.  IU hires Brad Stevens and he either is successful or fails;

#10. IU wins the NC in football and fans forget about IU basketball;

#11. IU hires Dan Dakich and he tells us what he should have done and doesn't pull punches;

#12. IU hires Steve Alford and he doesn't hang the banner and because of his legacy IU cannot fire him;

#13.  IU rehires he who must not be named and IU hangs banners;

#14.  IU has an interim coach for 4 years;

#15.  IU leaves the B1G and goes to the MVC and Notre Dame joins the B1G.

 

[Trish 14,473]

8 hours ago, Iubravos said:

If indiana basketball can't pry a coach away from Arkansas when we're offering 6-7 mil then I'll see myself out. 

It's more than that however. Arkansas is very much a basketball school. They love their basketball down there. Have you been to their arena down there? It's super nice! 

The boosters have money. As AZ mentioned, they have Walmart money. Arkansas hasn't seen this amount of success in a while. They're not going to let Mussleman walk away. Frankly, Mussleman loves it there. The idea of coaches coming to Indiana because it's "Indiana" is blown out of proportion. We never would've hired CTC or Archie if "Indiana" is indeed a name you can't refuse. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,295]

1 minute ago, Treesh said:

It's more than that however. Arkansas is very much a basketball school. They love their basketball down there. Have you been to their arena down there? It's super nice! 

The boosters have money. As AZ mentioned, they have Walmart money. Arkansas hasn't seen this amount of success in a while. They're not going to let Mussleman walk away. Frankly, Mussleman loves it there. The idea of coaches coming to Indiana because it's "Indiana" is blown out of proportion. We never would've hired CTC or Archie if "Indiana" is indeed a name you can't refuse. 

I'm not sure anyone else would have taken the job when Crean did. The problem is, we should have fired after season 3 and hired Stevens hired Stevens after his 2nd trip to a title game. Still would have gotten Zeller which means we would have still gotten Yogi. 

[IUguy77 379]

We don’t know what we would have gotten before because we had an AD who wouldn’t spend money. So trying to compare now to then doesn’t work. 

[Its Always Sunny at IU 191]

2 minutes ago, Treesh said:

It's more than that however. Arkansas is very much a basketball school. They love their basketball down there. Have you been to their arena down there? It's super nice! 

The boosters have money. As AZ mentioned, they have Walmart money. Arkansas hasn't seen this amount of success in a while. They're not going to let Mussleman walk away. Frankly, Mussleman loves it there. The idea of coaches coming to Indiana because it's "Indiana" is blown out of proportion. We never would've hired CTC or Archie if "Indiana" is indeed a name you can't refuse. 

100 percent accurate. No successful coach is going to leave a good situation to come to IU's rebuild. It almost never happens. Dolson did not line up anyone before firing Archie because that never happens. He had to move on from Miller because there might have been a mass exodus of players. Given that we just got burned by hiring a mid-major guy I cannot see that happening again. So probably we are talking a former player as the next coach. 

[ap2345 11,320]

The Iona campus is in fact within 30 minutes of the Westchester County airport fwiw. Maybe all the this Woodson talk is covering up something else.

[Chris007 62,388]

Just now, ap2345 said:

The Iona campus is in fact within 30 minutes of the Westchester County airport fwiw. Maybe all the this Woodson talk is covering up something else.

I think it's Woodson flying in as you said. 

[ap2345 11,320]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I think it's Woodson flying in as you said. 

So do I 

[ap2345 11,320]

So who’s going to do the stakeout at the airport?

[cbp4iu 2,310]

So if this hire doesn’t work out... What happens next? 

[IUHAHN81 3,309]

Woody lookin' to PARTAYYYYY in Btown for his bday! 

[Trish 14,473]

6 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

The Iona campus is in fact within 30 minutes of the Westchester County airport fwiw. Maybe all the this Woodson talk is covering up something else.

There have been flights in and out of that airport the past two weeks. It's probably IU related or Cook related. Bloomington has several manufactures that are producing the COVID vaccines. It could be executives flying back and fourth. 

 

2 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

So if this hire doesn’t work out... What happens next? 

This hire will determine Indiana Basketball. If it fails, I think it's official that we are indeed done and the media was right. Indiana isn't a good job anymore. We could always come back.. but I don't think it's possible until we get that home-run hire. This was Scott's choice to fire Archie, it's his time to turn Indiana Basketball around. 

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3 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

So if this hire doesn’t work out... What happens next? 

As in he fails after 4 years or as in he does not accept the job. If the first we find someone that we should have hired this time as in the second we celebrate because he should not be the next coach.

[cbp4iu 2,310]

2 minutes ago, brandct said:

As in he fails after 4 years or as in he does not accept the job. If the first we find someone that we should have hired this time as in the second we celebrate because he should not be the next coach.

I just don’t like the thought of having Woodson. It would be a real bummer. 

[Its Always Sunny at IU 191]

1 minute ago, Treesh said:

There have been flights in and out of that airport the past two weeks. It's probably IU related or Cook related. Bloomington has several manufactures that are producing the COVID vaccines. It could be executives flying back and fourth. 

 

This hire will determine Indiana Basketball. If it fails, I think it's official that we are indeed done and the media was right. Indiana isn't a good job anymore. We could always come back.. but I don't think it's possible until we get that home-run hire. This was Scott's choice to fire Archie, it's his time to turn Indiana Basketball around. 

Treesh looks like I'm going to spend the day agreeing with everything you say. If money is no object. If we are dealing with rich boosters then we should keep an eye on Nate Oats. Saban already is one of the highest paid coaches in sports. And his assistants make a ton of money. There's only so much Bama is going to pay a basketball coach. So if some rich IU guy wants to write a 12.5 mil Alabama buyout I think Oats would leave and would be a fantastic reboot for the program. He ticks almost every box that Dolson laid out and is only 46. I have no idea if a booster will shell out that much for another massive buyout. 

[brandct 675]

Just now, cbp4iu said:

I just don’t like the thought of having Woodson. It would be a real bummer. 

I don't either. I might be wrong in my thinking, but I just do not think that we would get the results that we are looking for.

[Kentuckysucks 4,332]

1 minute ago, cbp4iu said:

I just don’t like the thought of having Woodson. It would be a real bummer. 

He's not a serious candidate. 

[HoosierKnight 201]

If we go from thinking we had Brad Stevens and all of this $$$ to offer a coach to hiring Mike Woodson...what an epic fail.