NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

[MikeRoberts]

It’s hard to commit to a school when you don’t know who the staff is. Maybe that will get taken care of soon? 

[MemphisHoosier]

Soooo about the transfer portal…

[Jeff Flabjohns]

36 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

It’s hard to commit to a school when you don’t know who the staff is. Maybe that will get taken care of soon? 

Sounds like most new additions (staff/players) will be in place by month’s end. Something I’ve had to grapple with…but DDv doesn’t owe us ‘fast’ signings. Losing out on Conwell sucked but otherwise coach is operating on his own timeline. 

[lillurk]

One thing worth thinking about as the transfer portal matures is that in other sports’ free agency markets, the places where you get the most value for your dollar are the very top of the market, and then much farther down the scale.

This is true in leagues largely regardless of the nature of their salary rules — Shohei Ohtani, Juan Soto, Nikola Jokic, SGA, Pat Mahomes, and Saquon Barkley all provide surplus value per dollar to their teams than they actually make versus the average win/dollar in their league, even though they’re among the highest paid in their sport (ps — not an argument about athletes’ salaries, just a point about relative value vs. their peers on the field).

But the non-superstars who get paid at the top of the market often end up as a “bad investment” on a win/dollar evaluation. Think about Zach LaVine, late-career Dame Lillard, Paul George: inarguably good basketball players, paid beyond what they contribute to winning.

Below the highest tier, you’ve got to scout (draft), identify underperformers who will thrive in other circumstances, develop, capitalize where others where too deep or whatever — think of the Cubs getting Cody Bellinger cheaply two years ago, the Knicks realizing Jalen Brunson could be a superstar while the Mavs wouldn’t even pay him like a 3rd banana, the Pacers turning Aaron Nesmith into a guy who won’t get cooked out of a playoff rotation at wayyy below market for wings, etc.

Not totally clear how that’ll work given the strange idiosyncrasies of the transfer portal but I think there’s still a lot of truth in the principles.

[Jeff Flabjohns]

^That’s where a GM starts to be really helpful too 

[newcastle12]

2 hours ago, Hoosier987 said:

Each passing day it’s looking worse and worse that we gave Woodson another year instead of giving the job to Dusty.

Dusty didn't get a recruit until weeks from today last year, what exactly are you going on about?  They have a top 10 portal class already. 

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Asha’man said:

Says the guy who has a username making fun of someone else. Immature. 

 

51 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

Does it hurt your feelings? :(

If you want I can change it

[Uspshoosier]

Enough back and forth and get back to sun shine pumping the staff  or doom and gloom the staff in the tranfer portal 

[DChoosier]

1 hour ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

Sounds like most new additions (staff/players) will be in place by month’s end. Something I’ve had to grapple with…but DDv doesn’t owe us ‘fast’ signings. Losing out on Conwell sucked but otherwise coach is operating on his own timeline. 

We have no idea if that is true.
I would guess that his original timeline included signing 4-5 new players by now, not including  his son,  but who really know’s?

[Jeff Flabjohns]

3 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

We have no idea if that is true.
I would guess that his original timeline included signing 4-5 new players by now, not including  his son,  but who really know’s?

No way to know. He wanted Conwell, and he wanted Dix. Otherwise I’m just going off of his schedule of landing players last year that was posted in another thread. Seemed like everyone was signed in mid to late April. 
 

But this whole transfer process is just chaotic…and it’s hard to even compare things year to year. 

[DChoosier]

My following comment below is not intended to say we need top 25 portal guys.

I looked at a CBS article, written at 8:30 am on April 3rd (ie there could have been subsequent signings), and scrolled down the top 25 to see how many of them have signed with a new team. Again, not an “oh my god we need top 25 guys”, but rather how active are those types of signings.   
 

My guess going in was that 6-8 of the top 25 had already signed but the actual number is 19/25.

EDIT: the ranking list actually went down to the top 50 and I just looked and saw that only 5 of the 26-50 guys have signed so in total 24 of the top 50 have committed 

[DChoosier]

Someone must have funded Louisville with a huge bag$$$$$$.

The same CBS ranking shows that 3 of the top 14 portal prospects are going to the Ville and all three were described as good shooters (I vaguely remember what those look like). 

A few other tidbits:

5 of the top 25 signees are going to the BT and 4 are going to the SEC (I would have figured the SEC would crush the BT)

The 5 BT guys have signed with IU, IOWA, UM, PU, UCLA

Tucker D is ranked 11th

St John’s has signed 3 of the top 15 meaning a crazy 6 of the top 15 are going to Louisville or St John’s! 

[Asha’man]

13 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

Someone must have funded Louisville with a huge bag$$$$$$.

The same CBS ranking shows that 3 of the top 14 portal prospects are going to the Ville and all three were described as good shooters (I vaguely remember what those look like). 

A few other tidbits:

5 of the top 25 signees are going to the BT and 4 are going to the SEC (I would have figured the SEC would crush the BT)

The 5 BT guys have signed with IU, IOWA, UM, PU, UCLA

Tucker was ranked 11th

St John’s has signed 3 of the top 15 meaning a crazy 6 of the top 15 are going to Louisville or St John’s! 

Some of the top portal guys last year were not ranked in the top 25. It’s all about the talent fitting the system. 

[DChoosier]

Just now, Asha’man said:

Some of the top portal guys last year were not ranked in the top 25. It’s all about the talent fitting the system. 

I completely understand which is why I have clearly stated that I was not making an  “oh no we need top 25 guys” post. It was merely a look at how active actual signings have been.

[go iu bb]

I just watched the latest CrimsonCast episode and in it Galen mentions a rumor he heard that blew my mind. He said he's heard that Xavier Booker is getting a couple of million from UCLA. That's crazy if it's true. Maybe IU dodged a bullet if Cronin thinks Booker is worth anywhere close to $2M.

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Wesley Yates portal

[tyappleg]

26 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Wesley Yates portal

Guy has a funky shot, but it goes in.  Don't know if IU has a chance, but would be a very good option. 

[Demo]

39 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

I just watched the latest CrimsonCast episode and in it Galen mentions a rumor he heard that blew my mind. He said he's heard that Xavier Booker is getting a couple of million from UCLA. That's crazy if it's true. Maybe IU dodged a bullet if Cronin thinks Booker is worth anywhere close to $2M.

Not a chance.

[Jeff Flabjohns]

Hansberry to Va Tech

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Hansberry to Va Tech

Sincere Harris laugh emoji’ing DeVries Indiana interview clip too.


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