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3 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

If we get both of them then the starters will be 

XJ 

Knecht 

Ledlum 

Reneau 

Ware 

If we want to improve on last year we have to upgrade the positions of 2-4 and get players who are better than Galloway, Kopp and Race.

I've mentioned... not a fan of that lineup.... unless Knecht is like a god and can create. And if he is THAT good, why wouldn't he already be headed to the NBA. But, if I'm XJ... I'm not a fan of that lineup.

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1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

If we get both of them then the starters will be 

XJ 

Knecht 

Ledlum 

Reneau 

Ware 

If we want to improve on last year we have to upgrade the positions of 2-4 and get players who are better than Galloway, Kopp and Race.

With Gallo as the 20 minute+ backup at the 1, 2, and 3.

CJ Gunn at the 2, 3

Kaleb Banks at the 3, 4

Payton Sparks at the 4, 5,

Gabe Cupps at the 1

[ib4iu]

3 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

If we get both of them then the starters will be 

XJ 

Knecht 

Ledlum 

Reneau 

Ware 

If we want to improve on last year we have to upgrade the positions of 2-4 and get players who are better than Galloway, Kopp and Race.

If X doesn’t get hurt Galloway isn’t a starter at all this past season and this isn’t even a discussion. We’d still be talking about how great of a spark he would be off the bench and his versatility would allow for a lot of lineup flexibility. 

[jbeaman9]

Just now, btownqb said:

Right. Because we had an NBA lottery pick playing the 2 that could create for others. Can Knecht create for others, consistently? 

There are so many "what-ifs" or similar situations. If X plays all year, is JHS consistently creating for others or is his mentality different? How many high level games did we see with both X and JHS playing together at full health to be able to determine that? I don't think JHS is a high first rounder this year in the draft if X plays healthy all season.  

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2 minutes ago, jbeaman9 said:

There are so many "what-ifs" or similar situations. If X plays all year, is JHS consistently creating for others or is his mentality different? How many high level games did we see with both X and JHS playing together at full health to be able to determine that? I don't think JHS is a high first rounder this year in the draft if X plays healthy all season.  

I do. and crazy more efficient. 

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15 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I agree with this except I see him as your 6th man not 7/8. He is the most versatile player, as far as position, on the team. So I think he is the first one in unless matchups with bigs dictates otherwise in the instance a big gets 2 quick fouls.

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100%. No way is Gallo a 7 or 8 guy. I'm also in the camp that thinks that for IU to contend at the top, we need to improve our scoring and guard play and Gallo, as much as I like him (one of my favorites), is better suited to a 6th man role -- an excellent 6th man. Somewhat like a Sheehey. His outside shooting, though, improved significantly, his D and energy are usually top flight (though his aggressiveness still leads to quick fouls at time) -- first off the bench imo.

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28 minutes ago, btownqb said:

I've mentioned... not a fan of that lineup.... unless Knecht is like a god and can create. And if he is THAT good, why wouldn't he already be headed to the NBA. But, if I'm XJ... I'm not a fan of that lineup.

Not sure why if you were XJ you wouldn't be a fan of that lineup.  

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On 3/15/2023 at 7:48 PM, OliviaPope40 said:

Jayden Taylor from Butler is in the portal played at my high school didn't know who he was when he went to Butler but then that tells you how good our boys team has been.

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3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Not sure why if you were XJ you wouldn't be a fan of that lineup.  

Because he, just like 2 years ago, would have very little help creating for others. Sorry but I almost hate that lineup. 

Knecht, Ledlum despite having huge usage #s... don't exactly get others involved much. I thought we just watched a whole NCAAT where multiple ball handlers/multiple creators off the bounce were essential. 

Whether TG starts or not... I'd be shocked if he doesn't avg 25mpg+... especially with the way the roster is trending. 

[jbeaman9]

Just now, btownqb said:

Because he'd, just like 2 years ago, would have very little help creating for others. Sorry but I almost hate that lineup. 

Knecht, Ledlum despite having huge usage #s... don't exactly get others involved much. I thought we just watched a whole NCAAT where multiple ball handlers/multiple creators off the bounce were essential. 

Whether TG starts or not... I'd be shocked if he doesn't avg 25mpg+... especially with the way the roster is trending. 

You bring up a great point. I don't usually like to get caught up in who starts and who doesn't. I tend to look at important times, who is on the court. And I think we have evidence to show that Coach Woodson goes with guys who have been producing and who he trusts over his first two seasons at IU. TG could play starters minutes but off the bench. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I can't believe i'm saying this after the 2 year ago Gallo, but Next year I want to see Gallo shooting MORE 3's.  

We desperately need our offensive rebounding percentage to improve however and shooting more 3's would help that.  If we get Knecht he should shoot a lot and Gallo needs to figure out if he can stay hot.  

[rcbowla]

You bring up a great point. I don't usually like to get caught up in who starts and who doesn't. I tend to look at important times, who is on the court. And I think we have evidence to show that Coach Woodson goes with guys who have been producing and who he trusts over his first two seasons at IU. TG could play starters minutes but off the bench. 

That is something I like about Woodson is that he'll roll with what is working. He does though drive me nuts at times with not changing starting lineups, especially in 2nd half.

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1 minute ago, rcs29 said:

That is something I like about Woodson is that he'll roll with what is working. He does though drive me nuts at times with not changing starting lineups, especially in 2nd half.

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Does any team/coach do that? 

[rcbowla]

I can't believe i'm saying this after the 2 year ago Gallo, but Next year I want to see Gallo shooting MORE 3's.  
We desperately need our offensive rebounding percentage to improve however and shooting more 3's would help that.  If we get Knecht he should shoot a lot and Gallo needs to figure out if he can stay hot.  

Problem for him is though that he needs someone else to set him up. His release takes too long to be anything other than an open catch and shoot guy. But TG has shown that he works hard on his game so maybe that'll be the next step?

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Just now, btownqb said:

Does any team/coach do that? 

I'm with you here. Barring something outrageous or an injury, 99.9% of all coaches roll their same starters from the beginning of the game to the second half. 

[rcbowla]

Does any team/coach do that? 

I don't pay enough attention tbh. Does that make it right? To not put your team in the best position to win is malpractice as a coach. We have clearly seen times where that would've benefited the team.

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[rcbowla]

I'm with you here. Barring something outrageous or an injury, 99.9% of all coaches roll their same starters from the beginning of the game to the second half. 

I'll ask you same question then. Does that make it the right choice? Sometimes doing something different is how you gain an advantage.

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Rabby checking to see if Knecht will be taking any more visits. If not, that obviously does not bode well for us landing him.

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11 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I don't pay enough attention tbh. Does that make it right? To not put your team in the best position to win is malpractice as a coach. We have clearly seen times where that would've benefited the team.

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Yes, it does make it the right choice in my eyes, CMW and other coaches know their team sooooooo much better than we do. 

Maybe you could say... "I think it would be interesting if we did that" but labeling it "malpractice" or something that "drives you nuts" is just strange to me simply because it's not something that happens, anywhere. Not every single coach can be wrong about that. 

[rcbowla]

Yes, it does make it the right choice in my eyes, CMW and other coaches know their team sooooooo much better than we do. 
Maybe you could say... "I think it would be interesting if we did that" but labeling it "malpractice" or something that "drives you nuts" is just strange to me simply because it's not something that happens, anywhere. Not every single coach can be wrong about that. 

I guess if I were the coach and I had a lineup that had just cut a 10 pt deficit to 1 over last 8 minutes (for example). I'm coming out with that same lineup rather than the one that dug the original hole. I guess that's stupid because others don't do that

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