Home Jersey Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 Are recruits just not buying what Cal is selling anymore? Quote
Stuhoo Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, Demo said: Another UK miss. So sweeeeet. lillurk and Demo 2 Quote
Hoosierfan1901 Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 37 minutes ago, Demo said: Another UK miss. Ouch Quote
BGVille Hoosierfan Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 55 minutes ago, Demo said: Another UK miss. Quote
lillurk Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, TeeterInNJ said: Are recruits just not buying what Cal is selling anymore? UK hasn’t really been special on the court during the time they’ve been recruits. They probably remember the undefeated final four team, or some other good teams from almost a decade ago, but at this point I think Cal’s rep is as a guy who’s underachieved with high early expectations lately. He’s never been much of a developer, and unless you’re a PG you end up in a narrowly prescribed role in his offense. And then it’s all about momentum. Recruiting can be fickle. Also think NIL $ have really leveled the playing field. UK can surely fund a high-caliber athletic department but the booster aid is probably not much better than e.g. at UT or Weat Virginia or Kansas State etc., if at all, now that all those places can legally compensate players. Home Jersey 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, lillurk said: UK hasn’t really been special on the court during the time they’ve been recruits. They probably remember the undefeated final four team, or some other good teams from almost a decade ago, but at this point I think Cal’s rep is as a guy who’s underachieved with high early expectations lately. He’s never been much of a developer, and unless you’re a PG you end up in a narrowly prescribed role in his offense. And then it’s all about momentum. Recruiting can be fickle. Also think NIL $ have really leveled the playing field. UK can surely fund a high-caliber athletic department but the booster aid is probably not much better than e.g. at UT or Weat Virginia or Kansas State etc., if at all, now that all those places can legally compensate players. I also think UK is heavily disorganized in terms of their NIL. I think they lack the ability to tell recruits that player X made Y dollars because they have no idea. Home Jersey and lillurk 2 Quote
Josh Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Tasmanian Devil said: Without question. Jakai isn’t rated higher because of his injury. He’s got elite athleticism and has an extremely high ceiling. Can you expand on this? What the injury was, how it affected his ranking, etc? Quote
Uspshoosier Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Josh said: Can you expand on this? What the injury was, how it affected his ranking, etc? Meniscus tear and he basically sat out his whole senior year. Not playing all year dropped his ranking. Before the injury he was rising each time they came out with the new ones. Injury had to be worse then they let on to be out as long as he has been and he still is being brought back slowly by the staff lillurk 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Meniscus tear and he basically sat out his whole senior year. Not playing all year dropped his ranking. Before the injury he was rising each time they came out with the new ones. Injury had to be worse then they let on to be out as long as he has been and he still is being brought back slowly by the staff And in his latest video he still playing with a full leg brace. Now the good news is he was playing full court pickup ball which I’m assuming Indiana wouldn’t allow if he wasn’t on the mend. He was also jumping like a bad @$$. But there’s clearly more than a meniscus tear as part of the situation. Home Jersey and HinnyHoosier 2 Quote
Joe_hoopsier Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: And in his latest video he still playing with a full leg brace. Now the good news is he was playing full court pickup ball which I’m assuming Indiana wouldn’t allow if he wasn’t on the mend. He was also jumping like a bad @$$. But there’s clearly more than a meniscus tear as part of the situation. I think in that last interview he said he was only about 85% now. I agree, must have been more serious. Quote
Josh Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Meniscus tear and he basically sat out his whole senior year. Not playing all year dropped his ranking. Before the injury he was rising each time they came out with the new ones. Injury had to be worse then they let on to be out as long as he has been and he still is being brought back slowly by the staff Does "basically" mean he played up to the injury but not after at all? Quote
Scotty R Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 Just now, Josh said: Does "basically" mean he played up to the injury but not after at all? He came back for the last few games of the year but wasn't 100% Quote
go iu bb Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said: Meniscus tear and he basically sat out his whole senior year. Not playing all year dropped his ranking. Before the injury he was rising each time they came out with the new ones. Injury had to be worse then they let on to be out as long as he has been and he still is being brought back slowly by the staff To add to this, before his injury he was 247 composite top 75, with a lot of time ranked in the 60s. As of January, he was 71st. When the ranking were updated 2 months later, he was in the 100s and finished at 114. thebigweave, Stuhoo, lillurk and 1 other 4 Quote
Tasmanian Devil Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said: Meniscus tear and he basically sat out his whole senior year. Not playing all year dropped his ranking. Before the injury he was rising each time they came out with the new ones. Injury had to be worse then they let on to be out as long as he has been and he still is being brought back slowly by the staff Here is an indication of how athletic Newton is: In his 2nd game back, he blocked the dunk attempt of the #1 player in the 2023 class, Isaiah Collier. https://www.si.com/college/indiana/basketball/watch-indiana-basketball-commit-jakai-newton-blocks-isaiah-collier Scoring wise he still has to improve, but a solid-built, athletic 6-3 who has a 6-10 wingspan is likely to find playing time for his defense. J34, thebigweave, lillurk and 1 other 4 Quote
Tasmanian Devil Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, go iu bb said: To add to this, before his injury he was 247 composite top 75, with a lot of time ranked in the 60s. As of January, he was 71st. When the ranking were updated 2 months later, he was in the 100s and finished at 114. He was as high as 43 in Rivals: https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/jakai-newton-279134?view=pv thebigweave 1 Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 22 hours ago, BGVille Hoosierfan said: Indiana has someone very connected with Reeves and has a big advantage communicating through back channels. Reeves will absolutely be transferring but it may be a bit before he announces a decision as to where. My understanding is that he is making sure academics are taken care of to make sure he can graduate and then transfer as a grad transfer. We have a current player along with someone connected with Reeves that has been in communication and been FaceTiming with him and can say we will very much have a real chance here. It sounds like Woody and Juwan may be squaring up in the ring on this one. If Indiana can land him that would be massive. He just fits what this team is missing. I think he makes IU a legit Final Four contender. I have to think the staff/players know this and will do what it takes to get him. Edit: IF IU lands him, I don't think national idiots will have us very high still in the rankings which is fine by me. I like how this team is being slept on. J34, BGVille Hoosierfan, Home Jersey and 2 others 5 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Josh said: Does "basically" mean he played up to the injury but not after at all? He got injured in spring of 2022. Missed all of the AAU season before his senior year. They said they were in no hurry to rush back since he already had his scholly. He then sat out all of his senior year besides a handful of games at the end of the year. He would play a game and then sit out the next game. He looked good in the game I watched on tv however he still had a huge brace on. In my opinion that injury was more serious then they let on because he has basically hasn’t played many games in over a year and half and IU staff is still taken it slow. I hope he gets fully cleared this year or if he isn’t I hope he takes the time to get it right because if he is fully healthy he is the type of guard that IU has been missing jonz44, Tasmanian Devil, Stuhoo and 2 others 5 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said: Any chance he redshirts? That would certainly clarify the depth chart and give him time to get 100% healthy. I don’t know. If it isn’t fully healthy you would hope he would consider it lillurk 1 Quote
IUFAN1976 Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said: If Indiana can land him that would be massive. He just fits what this team is missing. I think he makes IU a legit Final Four contender. I have to think the staff/players know this and will do what it takes to get him. Edit: IF IU lands him, I don't think national idiots will have us very high still in the rankings which is fine by me. I like how this team is being slept on. I agree with your 2nd comment because I do think we are most likely being underrated. As far as your 1st comment, that currently is a stretch. A lot still depends on how this team gels together. I think CMW, staff and senior leadership can get it done but the work needs to be put in by all! I said it before, if CMW and staff adds someone, I want it to be Reeves. You are exactly right, it’s what this team exactly needs and that will push Galloway to a more productive roll, 6th man! Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 47 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said: I agree with your 2nd comment because I do think we are most likely being underrated. As far as your 1st comment, that currently is a stretch. A lot still depends on how this team gels together. I think CMW, staff and senior leadership can get it done but the work needs to be put in by all! I said it before, if CMW and staff adds someone, I want it to be Reeves. You are exactly right, it’s what this team exactly needs and that will push Galloway to a more productive roll, 6th man! For sure a ton of questions..X coming off an injury, Mack is just a freshman, Malik/Ke'el were limited as freshman, Banks/Gunn didn't do much in their first year. I feel Reeves/Trey offset each other so well. I just like Trey's game coming off the bench as a 6 man. DChoosier 1 Quote
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