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3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Pretty incredible. Corniest coach in the NCAA. He does have that corny swagger and big bucks behind him. Plus he likes to splash. Sheltad was a target for me from the winter. And Bidunga is the dream target for years.  It’s certainly a way to enthuse the fanbase at minimum. If they spent 7 it’s probably well worth it. They likely have 8 or so to spend.  Curious to see how the other pieces stack up. 
 

IF IF IF we get Burton/Sherrell it rivals the move in my mind as a near 1 to 1.  With Sherrell being the piece that I’m not at all confident in.  We’ve gotta get a centerpiece 5 in my mind. Especially if we don’t do much special at the 4.  

I'm think beside the money, you sell Sherrell on being the 4 and that we'll be playing a 2 big lineup in the Big Ten. He does have a strong Julius Randle game to his vibe. He's bigger though. Get who we're rumored to get and a complement big and another 4/5 backup.  Although I'd give my left pistachio for Allen Graves. 

Posted
13 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

UL is going to beat our @$$ again.

Too early to say but this is certainly making a statement. UL not afraid of a bidding war and seem to really go strong for their primary portal targets. I’m extremely curious what budget is left. But even at 8-10 which wouldn’t surprise based on this move, they can get 2 more strong pieces and a bench.  We’ll get to assess this more in a few weeks to months because I like Burton and Sherrill almost equally.  

Posted
17 minutes ago, BA47591 said:

I'm think beside the money, you sell Sherrell on being the 4 and that we'll be playing a 2 big lineup in the Big Ten. He does have a strong Julius Randle game to his vibe. He's bigger though. Get who we're rumored to get and a complement big and another 4/5 backup.  Although I'd give my left pistachio for Allen Graves. 

Reibe?  Seems like a bit of an odd arrangement, but like him as a player a lot. Definitely looking to start somewhere. 

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Agree with Davis 100%. The hyperbole here is gonna be nuts. If anything they’ve downgraded at PG even if Brown didn’t shoot it great last year and Flory is a great defensive anchor but if he’s your best player I’m not sure you’re actually winning anything. 

Posted
33 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

People thought UL had a great portal last year and they flopped.  Still tbd with Pat.

Flop is what we did. I do think they underperformed, though. I haveno idea how you finish 6th in the ACC with that roster.
 

The only flaw I see with Kelseys portal strategy is that he basically gets 1-yr guys every time forcing him to start over the next year. So far he’s 3 for 3 in landing good portal classes, though. 

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One of my favorite roster constructions was Willards 24-25 Maryland team. He just didn't have a bench. Still finished second in the Big Ten and went to the sweet 16. 2 bigs, 2 3&d wings and a floor general. My fingers are crossed that is what we're doing. 

Burton, Mustaf, Harris, Sherrell, and a competent center. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Flop is what we did. I do think they underperformed, though. I haveno idea how you finish 6th in the ACC with that roster.
 

The only flaw I see with Kelseys portal strategy is that he basically gets 1-yr guys every time forcing him to start over the next year. So far he’s 3 for 3 in landing good portal classes, though. 

Underperformed, flopped, whatever… they didn’t live up to the preseason expectations.  And I’m being negative towards them since they’re sort of a rival.  

If I had to described IU I would say we floundered and languished.  ;-)

Posted
14 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Flop is what we did. I do think they underperformed, though. I haveno idea how you finish 6th in the ACC with that roster.
 

The only flaw I see with Kelseys portal strategy is that he basically gets 1-yr guys every time forcing him to start over the next year. So far he’s 3 for 3 in landing good portal classes, though. 

Unfortunately, he's still Pat Kelsey.

Posted
9 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Insane. Don't think these two are worth this amount, if accurate, but I guess that's the market. 

 

How isn’t this sustainable? If the donors are willing to foot the bill.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

How isn’t this sustainable? If the donors are willing to foot the bill.

I would assume at some point super rich people get tired of forking over hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars annually with basically 0 ROI. 

I guess if you're program has some people with billions. 

But rich people usually don't get there by handing money out with no chance of a return. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, BGleas said:

I would assume at some point super rich people get tired of forking over hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars annually with basically 0 ROI. 

I guess if you're program has some people with billions. 

But rich people usually don't get there by handing money out with no chance of a return. 

Donors aren’t a finite resource.  New donors pop up every year.  Some will get burned but new ones will get involved.  And the schools who spend it wisely will get a ROI and keep the price high as they bid against each other.  

Posted
3 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Donors aren’t a finite resource.  New donors pop up every year.  Some will get burned but new ones will get involved.  And the schools who spend it wisely will get a ROI and keep the price high as they bid against each other.  

But the donor has no ROI. I guess there's a lot of rich people out there, but it can't go on forever when there is no chance of a monetary return on the investment. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, BGleas said:

But the donor has no ROI. I guess there's a lot of rich people out there, but it can't go on forever when there is no chance of a monetary return on the investment. 

Watch Mark Cuban getting access to the IU football team during a NC run and tell me he got no ROI.  
 

For him dropping a few millions to have the time of his life with the team is like you or I spending a couple thousand to take the family to Disney.  It’s about the experience not the ROI.  It’s not an investment it’s entertainment 

Posted
45 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Insane. Don't think these two are worth this amount, if accurate, but I guess that's the market. 

 

Nine seems like fiction. Say they gave Flory everything he wanted at $5mil. You’re telling me they spent 4 on Shelstad. That seems like about double what everyone else says the market is. 

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