Purdoodoo toiletmakers vs. THE Indiana Hoosiers (2/8 at 2:00 on ESPN)

[Brass Cannon 24,803]

Just now, IUc2016 said:

You just furthered my point. thank you. 

No I didn’t. Alford hasn’t been good anywhere why would it be different here 

[IUc2016 7,121]

3 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

No I didn’t. Alford hasn’t been good anywhere why would it be different here 

First let me say this, I do not want Steve Alford. I just have a feeling that is where this goes. 

Second, you cannot count LSU as a success in this instance. My argument was that Orgeron sucked BEFORE he got to LSU (just as Alford has). The fact that he has been very successful at LSU furthers my point that maybe Alford will do that at IU. so yes, thank you. 

[HoosierFan1994 4,746]

43 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Exactly everyone wins at Dayton, just look at our current coach. Very rare a coach doesn't win at Butler too. I know nothing about SDS but Steve Fisher used to be there. I think Seton Hall has a good coach, isn't he from there or around New York.

Hey Chris I was just wondering ( I'm sure you've touched on it before) but given what we know so far in the Archie era, do you think he is the long term answer for this program? With Glass retiring would the new AD bring in his own guy for next season or would you expect him to let Archie get a 4th year? Is the APR still really hurting Archie? He only has 4 Crean recruits on his team. 

[HoosierFan1994 4,746]

Just for the record, I really like the guys Archie has brought in. TJD will be an All-American candidate next year. Jerome is a wild card. I personally think he should be starting right now. However, Phinisee, Brunk, and Armaan are role players-as of right now. (Rob and Armaan could be very good as upperclassmen). I like Leal, Geronimo, and Galloway but I think of them as role players too. Archie has to get a grad transfer for next year that can shoot it and handle the ball. They are out there. Nothing against Justin and Al, but I wouldn't cry if they left the program to play somewhere else next year. 

[Chris007 44,066]

3 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Hey Chris I was just wondering ( I'm sure you've touched on it before) but given what we know so far in the Archie era, do you think he is the long term answer for this program? With Glass retiring would the new AD bring in his own guy for next season or would you expect him to let Archie get a 4th year? Is the APR still really hurting Archie? He only has 4 Crean recruits on his team. 

I thought he was, but I'm starting to wonder. But he gets next year because of the buyout. Unless Cuban or someone like that steps up to buy him out, he gets year 4. The new AD probably won't be here till after the school year starts next season. If I remember correctly Glass isn't leaving till July. 

If Scott Dolson gets the job I would look for Alford since they both were a part of the 87 team. Reynolds I don't know who he would bring in but I would expect an IU guy. 

[Stuhoo 80,871]

13 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I thought he was, but I'm starting to wonder. But he gets next year because of the buyout. Unless Cuban or someone like that steps up to buy him out, he gets year 4. The new AD probably won't be here till after the school year starts next season. If I remember correctly Glass isn't leaving till July. 

If Scott Dolson gets the job I would look for Alford since they both were a part of the 87 team. Reynolds I don't know who he would bring in but I would expect an IU guy. 

 

Great post Chris - thanks.

Three reactions to it:

1. Mark Cuban's net worth is currently estimated at $4.1 billion. Yes ... billion.
2. Mark Cuban is a Bob Knight guy through and through. He flew in to Bloomington for the RMK game. The only true Bob Knight coaching tree/Pat Knight close friend on our pipe dream wish list is NOT Steve Alford or Dane Fife, it's Chris Beard. In fact Beard has more time on staff with RMK than Fife, Alford, Lewis, Guyton, Wittman, and Woodson combined (ten years to a combined zero).
3. Chris Beard's buyout is $3 million.

 

 

[IUc2016 7,121]

 
Great post Chris - thanks.
Three reactions to it:

1. Mark Cuban's net worth is currently estimated at $4.1 billion. Yes ... billion.
2. Mark Cuban is a Bob Knight guy through and through. He flew in to Bloomington for the RMK game. The only true Bob Knight coaching tree/Pat Knight close friend on our pipe dream wish list is NOT Steve Alford or Dane Fife, it's Chris Beard. In fact Beard has more time on staff with RMK than Fife, Alford, Lewis, Guyton, Wittman, and Woodson combined (ten years to a combined zero).
3. Chris Beard's buyout is $3 million.

 
 

Chris Beard is the guy I want. Just don’t have hope that it would be possible to get him out of Lubbock


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[Chris007 44,066]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Great post Chris - thanks.

Two reactions to it:

1. Mark Cuban's net worth is currently estimated at $4.1 billion. Yes ... billion.
2. Mark Cuban is a Bob Knight guy through and through. He flew in to Bloomington for the RMK game. The only true Bob Knight coaching tree/Pat Knight close friend on our pipe dream wish list is NOT Steve Alford or Dane Fife, it's Chris Beard. In fact Beard has more time on staff with RMK than Fife, Alford, Lewis, Guyton, Wittman, and Woodson combined (ten years to a combined zero).
3. Chris Beard's buyout is $3 million.

 

 

My thing with Chris Beard is he's never left the state of Texas. Grew up there, went to college, got his masters there. Their building the new 30 million dollar practice facility, I just don't see him leaving that. 

Yes I love the story Cuban tells about going to the president's house about donating some money to the university when Coach Knight was still the coach. He walks in in jeans and Knight looks at him and says who the hell are you? RMK had no idea Cuban was worth millions back then. 

[IUc2016 7,121]

Although it would be fitting to take Texas Tech’s version of Bob Knight after we gave them ours.


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[Chris007 44,066]

12 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

Although it would be fitting to take Texas Tech’s version of Bob Knight after we gave them ours.


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I think you will see Chris Beard as the new coach in Austin Texas. I've heard those talks have already started. 

[IUc2016 7,121]

I think you will see Chris Beard as the new coach in Austin Texas. I've heard those talks have already started. 

Do you think Saturday was the final straw for Archie in terms of the upperclassmen and he finally goes with his guys?

I mean most of us have wondered why they still played but I was giving him the benefit of the doubt as the coach.


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[Chris007 44,066]

1 minute ago, IUc2016 said:

Do you think Saturday was the final straw for Archie in terms of the upperclassmen and he finally goes with his guys?

I mean most of us have wondered why they still played but I was giving him the benefit of the doubt as the coach.


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I would think so but I have thought that before too. I don't know if he is just stubborn or what

[Josh 12,641]

What was my worst decision Saturday?  Believing that Archie Miller could win?  Or ordering shrimp scampi from the gas station afterward?  Both left me feeling sick for two days now.

[gohoosiers97 50]

I thought he was, but I'm starting to wonder. But he gets next year because of the buyout. Unless Cuban or someone like that steps up to buy him out, he gets year 4. The new AD probably won't be here till after the school year starts next season. If I remember correctly Glass isn't leaving till July. 
If Scott Dolson gets the job I would look for Alford since they both were a part of the 87 team. Reynolds I don't know who he would bring in but I would expect an IU guy. 

Alford? Really? I would drop my tickets and donations in a heartbeat if that happened and know many others that would do the same. He doesn’t get redemption for covering up rape and victim shaming. Sorry hard, hard pass on that one. Makes me ill just thinking about it.


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[HoosierFan1994 4,746]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Great post Chris - thanks.

Three reactions to it:

1. Mark Cuban's net worth is currently estimated at $4.1 billion. Yes ... billion.
2. Mark Cuban is a Bob Knight guy through and through. He flew in to Bloomington for the RMK game. The only true Bob Knight coaching tree/Pat Knight close friend on our pipe dream wish list is NOT Steve Alford or Dane Fife, it's Chris Beard. In fact Beard has more time on staff with RMK than Fife, Alford, Lewis, Guyton, Wittman, and Woodson combined (ten years to a combined zero).
3. Chris Beard's buyout is $3 million.

 

 

Cuban looked like he had just ate some raw beef on Saturday. Could clearly tell how pissed he was at the current product. 

[HoosierFan1994 4,746]

1 hour ago, IUc2016 said:

Do you think Saturday was the final straw for Archie in terms of the upperclassmen and he finally goes with his guys?

I mean most of us have wondered why they still played but I was giving him the benefit of the doubt as the coach.


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I sure hope. Quit playing Green, Smith, and Durham. 

[Aaron 4,293]

1 minute ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

I sure hope. Quit playing Green, Smith, and Durham. 

I would bench Green. Not sure about Durham or Smith.

Green leaving next year could be worth 3-4 extra wins as the amount of shots he jacks up when he is in there will no longer happen and he misses way more then he makes.

[HoosierFan1994 4,746]

1 minute ago, Aaron said:

I would bench Green. Not sure about Durham or Smith.

Green leaving next year could be worth 3-4 extra wins as the amount of shots he jacks up when he is in there will no longer happen and he misses way more then he makes.

Yup. He has one or two games a year where he goes off. Durham and Smith should not be starting. They are role players at best. 

[Alford Bailey 12,384]

8 minutes ago, gohoosiers97 said:

 

Alford? Really? I would drop my tickets and donations in a heartbeat if that happened and know many others that would do the same. He doesn’t get redemption for covering up rape and victim shaming. Sorry hard, hard pass on that one. Makes me ill just thinking about it.


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I doubt you would drop them if he won.

[theriverpilot 5,607]

2 minutes ago, Aaron said:

I would bench Green. Not sure about Durham or Smith.

Green leaving next year could be worth 3-4 extra wins as the amount of shots he jacks up when he is in there will no longer happen and he misses way more then he makes.

I wouldn't be starting Smith. He can come off the bench behind Hunter.