Feathery Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said: The point is saying these are not archies guys is absurb. He has coached them for two years and they have played for no other coach. I mean the could of left at anytime but choose to stay. They never played one second under crean. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk I think what they really mean is, some of the guys don’t fit what Archie wants to do. They have the wrong skill sets. Maybe they just haven’t developed fast enough. Who knows. Quote
Bailey7878 Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 I think what they really mean is, some of the guys don’t fit what Archie wants to do. They have the wrong skill sets. Maybe they just haven’t developed fast enough. Who knows. I am very shocked they have not left then.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
Feathery Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said: I am very shocked they have not left then. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Why? If they know they aren’t pro players and they are halfway or closer to a degree. Get your degree then grad transfer. Quote
Bailey7878 Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 Why? If they know they aren’t pro players and they are halfway or closer to a degree. Get your degree then grad transfer. Then sit on the bench for two more years. I can think of two guys right now who will not play next year and will ride the pine. Be interesting to see what they do in the next month or so.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
KingPG21 Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Bailey7878 said: You can say you dont fit my system. They can take a hint. Four alabama players are already transferring due to the change. Its not uncommon. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk That if a horrible comparison. You're comparing kids leaving a program with nothing set in place right now going forward and comparing it to a program with a coach in place. Not even close to the same situation Ranger78, JaybobHoosier and BlueDevil 3 Quote
Feathery Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said: Then sit on the bench for two more years. I can think of two guys right now who will not play next year and will ride the pine. Be interesting to see what they do in the next month or so. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk The only way I don’t see transfers is if we need kids to stay for APR reasons. I’m not sure where that stands and if kids leave if it drops our score to low. Quote
Josh Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 One thing MUST change next year. We cannot come out unprepared to play every game. That killed our season. Blame it on what you will, but if it continues next year, heads need to roll. 8bucks, LIHoosier, Deserthoozier and 2 others 5 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 That if a horrible comparison. You're comparing kids leaving a program with nothing set in place right now going forward and comparing it to a program with a coach in place. Not even close to the same situationThey have a new coach.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
Bailey7878 Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 The only way I don’t see transfers is if we need kids to stay for APR reasons. I’m not sure where that stands and if kids leave if it drops our score to low. Well if we see no transfers and bring in no shooters it may be a long season.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
KingPG21 Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 Just now, Bailey7878 said: They have a new coach. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk At least 2 of those kids decided before they did Quote
Popular Post mdn82 Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Posted March 28, 2019 I have little reason to believe next year will be any better. This program is stuck in mediocrity absent major structural changes.I agree. Might be time to skip a season huh. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app JaybobHoosier, BtownStrength, Capt. Crimson and 6 others 8 1 Quote
BlueDevil Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 I agree. Might be time to skip a season huh. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app[emoji23]Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app RaceToTheTop, mdn82, JaybobHoosier and 2 others 5 Quote
Hovadipo Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 WALLOWING. IN. MEDIOCRITTTTYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! mdn82, thebigweave, JaybobHoosier and 1 other 4 Quote
finky Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) On 3/27/2019 at 7:28 PM, Bailey7878 said: Not its just a convenient excuse. That St. Francis team was terrible Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk After next year, and I hope that is a Tournament run and a 22-8 record.....we have to stop with "these aren't Archies players" "these players don't fit his system" blah blah blah. I think the Team is in the exact same position it was when we fired Crean, after two years. If I hired a Sales guy and his sales were the same after two years...buh bye. Archie isn't running some special system that takes three years and 300 classroom hours to learn. Most teams basically run all the same stuff. Players need to learn to play with each other AND anticipate each other. The Coaches job is to find the line up that does that the best and to find substitution patterns that don't kill the team. Archie didn't inherit a program that was awful, Crean did. I'm not a big fan of Crean's, especially his in game decisions. BUT..I'm a huge fan of Creans ability to spot potential talent and then to develop it. I'm not seeing any of that. I actually thought DeRon looked much better this year than last, other than that...they were all roughly the same players. This talk of "rebuild" is the biggest pile of participation trophy horse turds that I've ever seen. We just aren't getting better. I'm not saying Archie is the problem, but, he has to be the solution. Next year he will be Coaching for his job. I really don't want Glass making another hiring decision (my opinion)...Archie won't survive missing the Tournament next year...take that to the bank ..... Glass insulted the BOT when he said "rebuild"...I should say I know he insulted at least one because that person told me.."Yeah..that was insulting..he thinks we are f'ing morons". (maybe the second time I've heard him swear, the first time was talking to him about the Watford shot) Lot's of pressure next year....I honestly hope Archie does it and makes many of us eat crow. Go Hoosiers! Edited March 29, 2019 by finky Josh, Iugradman and Maedhros 3 Quote
mdn82 Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 WALLOWING. IN. MEDIOCRITTTTYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER, Class of '66 Old Fart, JaybobHoosier and 1 other 4 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 Just a friendly reminder that I’m not going to make any serious judgements until year four. Enjoy your wallowing!Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Banksyrules, Hollywood Mike Miranda, thebigweave and 4 others 4 3 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 I have little reason to believe next year will be any better. This program is stuck in mediocrity absent major structural changes.Come on drink the kool aid. Things will be kust fine Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
Bailey7878 Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 After next year, and I hope that is a Tournament run and a 22-8 record.....we have to stop with "these aren't Archies players" "these players don't fit his system" blah blah blah. I think the Team is in the exact same position it was when we fired Crean, after two years. If I hired a Sales guy and his sales were the same after two years...buh bye. Archie isn't running some special system that takes three years and 300 classroom hours to learn. Most teams basically run all the same stuff. Players need to learn to play with each other AND anticipate each other. The Coaches job is to find the line up that does that the best and to find substitution patterns that don't kill the team. Archie didn't inherit a program that was awful, Crean did. I'm not a big fan of Crean's, especially his in game decisions. BUT..I'm a huge fan of Creans ability to spot potential talent and then to develop it. I'm not seeing any of that. I actually thought DeRon looked much better this year than last, other than that...they were all roughly the same players. This talk of "rebuild" is the biggest pile of participation trophy horse turds that I've ever seen. We just aren't getting better. I'm not saying Archie is the problem, but, he has to be the solution. Next year he will be Coaching for his job. I really don't want Glass making another hiring decision (my opinion)...Archie won't survive missing the Tournament next year...take that to the bank ..... Glass insulted the BOT when he said "rebuild"...I should say I know he insulted at least one because that person told me.."Yeah..that was insulting..he thinks we are f'ing morons". (maybe the second time I've heard him swear, the first time was talking to him about the Watford shot) Lot's of pressure next year....I honestly hope Archie does it and makes many of us eat crow. Go Hoosiers!If i thought things looked like they were moving forward nicely id be much more optimistic. Boy next year is just massive for archies future. Massive.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
Feathery Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Bailey7878 said: Well if we see no transfers and bring in no shooters it may be a long season. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk I don’t agree with that. Our shooting woes are in large part bc 2 of the highest volume shooters, Romeo and Morgan, were 2 of the worst % shooters. Phinisee, Durham, and Green are all adequate shooters. Hunter can shoot it from deep, and I’m confident he will play. Once the game slows down for Damezi, he will be a 40% plus shooter. Aeggie and hsrtxp 2 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 51 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said: Just a friendly reminder that I’m not going to make any serious judgements until year four. Enjoy your wallowing! Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Heard the same nonsense about Crean warning signs are warnings regardless when they happen Iugradman 1 Quote
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