Brass Cannon Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 Ramsey is a game manager which is what the team needs. Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
LIHoosier Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 With all the inept football Fisch has seen, he's even perplexed today. colonel06 and Iugradman 2 Quote
JSHoosier Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, DChoosier said: I don’t know how someone can call Ramsey a good downfield passer. At this point in his career he is not good downfield. He just isn’t. He runs well and throws good short passes but is limited downfield. That being said, today’s issues are in the trenches, tackling, the D stinks and stupid penalties. We were just called for being offsides on a kickoff (LOL). Does anyone EVER remember a game in which the coaches were flagged twice in the first half?? Who has called Ramsey a good downfield passer? I can't think of anyone. All I've ever said is he's not 5-yards-from-LOS limited, he's good enough to go after the intermediate part of the field. Quote
JSHoosier Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 WE MADE A TACKLE. THIS IS NOT A DRILL! Quote
JSHoosier Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 Which we immediately follow up with missing a tackle. theriverpilot 1 Quote
DChoosier Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 1 minute ago, JSHoosier said: Who has called Ramsey a good downfield passer? I can't think of anyone. All I've ever said is he's not 5-yards-from-LOS limited, he's good enough to go after the intermediate part of the field. He’s been called that many times. Old Friend 1 Quote
Hoosier Guy Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 It is a legitimate question to inquire if IU does indeed practice tackling colonel06 1 Quote
JSHoosier Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 Just now, DChoosier said: He’s been called that many times. I just can't think of anyone that's said he's good at throwing downfield. Just that he's not as limited as DeBord's playing typically is. Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 There is simply not enough offensive talent on this team to win if the defense can’t hold opponents under 40 Iugradman 1 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, TXHoosierDaddy said: Throwing the ball a ton playing from behind but you also have to consider thsoe numbers were inflated against Charleston Southern, FIU and Ball St. Ramsey throws a decent ball but he lobs it too much when he tries to go deep and receivers more times than not have to come back. He's a very average QB. He's not going to turn it over and hurt you but he's not going to consistently put together big drives especially when we are behind. However, its far from just Ramsey. The defense lets up big plays and the running game has gone in the tank since we entered BIG play. I'm not a fan of Debord either. I really hope we let him go after this year. Those numbers weren't inflated by the first three games. In the three conference games he has 882 of his 1361 yards and 6 of his 11 touchdowns. I agree that he's average, though. That's about all we can hope for at IU. Ideally he'd be throwing 25 to 30 times a game like he did during the non-conference season. Imo, if the other aspects of the team were good then he would be enough at the qb position, but unfortunately they're not. Quote
DChoosier Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 Just now, Hoosier Guy said: It is a legitimate question to inquire if IU does indeed practice tackling One thing I have liked since Allen became the DC is that tackling improved and we stopped giving up so many 3rd and longs. For some reason those improvements are down the drain today. We seem to nearly always choke when we go into a “tipping point” game that we have a reasonable chance of winning. Just look bad today. Iugradman, BGVille Hoosierfan and jmsgws 3 Quote
LIHoosier Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 We don't even try returning kicks now. IU must lead the nation in this new 'fair catch to the 25' rule. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, DChoosier said: I don’t know how someone can call Ramsey a good downfield passer. At this point in his career he is not good downfield. He just isn’t. He runs well and throws good short passes but is limited downfield. That being said, today’s issues are in the trenches, tackling, the D stinks and stupid penalties. We were just called for being offsides on a kickoff (LOL). Does anyone EVER remember a game in which the coaches were flagged twice in the first half?? He's not good, but he's not as bad as the staff seems to think he is either. They're treating him like he has a Zander Diamont noodle arm by not going more than 5 yards past the line. He can throw 10-15 yards downfield well enough that there's no reason to not include those passes in the game plan. It's all part of the staff's zero risk taking mentality that ensures we'll lose every game against a team as good or better than us. Iugradman 1 Quote
JSHoosier Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 What's the over/under on missed tackles this drive? 4? Quote
Hoosier Guy Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 1 minute ago, DChoosier said: One thing I have liked since Allen became the DC is that tackling improved and we stopped giving up so many 3rd and longs. For some reason those improvements are down the drain today. We seem to nearly always choke when we go into a “tipping point” game that we have a reasonable chance of winning. Just look bad today. Iowa is just a better team. They play disciplined football. It clearly shows colonel06 1 Quote
LIHoosier Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 Just now, Joe DeLow said: We’ve always sucked at kick returns. So it is a perfect strategy. Not even sure why they do kickoffs anymore. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app It just goes with the zero risk mindset that's been harped on already. If the offense stinks, why not at least try to get good field position? The only TD so far came from a turnover where the field was shortened. There's already been 100 missed tackles and stupid penalties; if someone fumbles a return or a missed block means its returned to the 10, so what at this point? Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
theriverpilot Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 I’m sure this has been mentioned somewhere, but UK has a ranked team this year. They’re obviously turning the corner so how is it IU can’t put a decent program together? Feels like every year we’re collectively wishing for that 6th win just be bowl eligible Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Iugradman and colonel06 2 Quote
JSHoosier Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 Hey, only one missed tackle on that play. Granted it was by the guy that was supposed to be covering him and it ended up going to the house. Quote
Magnanimous Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 Just now, theriverpilot said: I’m sure this has been mentioned somewhere, but UK has a ranked team this year. They’re obviously turning the corner so how is it IU can’t put a decent program together? Feels like every year we’re collectively wishing for that 6th win just be bowl eligible Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk They found a "good enough" coach that they were very patient with. Allen could be that guy for IU, especially given his focus on D and his ability so far to recruit. The offense needs an overhaul though. thebigweave and BGVille Hoosierfan 2 Quote
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