Final : Indiana 75 - Minnesota 71 | RoJo Career High

[bleedhoosier 3,627]

I know the guy is athletic but Smith keeps surprising at how strong he is too. We are definitely going to see him point-blank dunk on dudes in the future. If Morgan can teach him a little patience and a spin move in the paint, Smith will kill down low.

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[Hoosier DaDa 3,014]

Yesterday a great day for college hoops. IU wins when we all thought a loss was imminent. Also following teams lost Duke, North Carolina and Kentucky. It was a good day and no AKs was needed.

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[HoosierX 1,659]

1 hour ago, bleedhoosier said:

I know the guy is athletic but Smith keeps surprising at how strong he is too. We are definitely going to see him point-blank dunk on dudes in the future. If Morgan can teach him a little patience and a spin move in the paint, Smith will kill down low.

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Hopefully he hasn't gone to the Freddie McSwain school of dunking on people.

[LamarCheeks 19,823]

Living out in Virginia, I try to follow the team as closely as I can. But I can't always get as much 411 as I'd like. Does anybody know what's up with Clifton Moore? I thought since this was an "all hands on deck" situation, we might see him yesterday. Especially since he's 6-10 and would provide some of the size we're missing with Davis out. Then I looked up his numbers and he's played in five games for a grand total of 23 minutes this season. If he's not ready and if we can't get anything out of him this season, why didn't we redshirt him? 

[pumpfake 3,976]

13 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Living out in Virginia, I try to follow the team as closely as I can. But I can't always get as much 411 as I'd like. Does anybody know what's up with Clifton Moore? I thought since this was an "all hands on deck" situation, we might see him yesterday. Especially since he's 6-10 and would provide some of the size we're missing with Davis out. Then I looked up his numbers and he's played in five games for a grand total of 23 minutes this season. If he's not ready and if we can't get anything out of him this season, why didn't we redshirt him? 

My only guess is that when Archie put the sell on him to reaffirm his commitment, maybe Clifton and his dad insisted he not be redshirted (?).  Whatever the case, I believe unless a player is brought in as a project (which I hate), he should be able to get minutes and contribute on a mediocre team like we have now.  As it stands now I have to feel like this was a recruiting "miss".

[Lebowski 2,851]

Fun game to watch.  I really enjoyed to see #3 J. Smith step up.  A lot of positive to take away from this game.  They were hitting their shots too!  Was it me or did it look like they were playing with some chemistry?  I think I really noticed it on the defensive side of the ball or was that Minnesota is just playing that bad? 

Hope they can stay on this awesome train for the next game against PSU this Tuesday at the Hall.  

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[Hoosierfan2017 22,170]

52 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

My only guess is that when Archie put the sell on him to reaffirm his commitment, maybe Clifton and his dad insisted he not be redshirted (?).  Whatever the case, I believe unless a player is brought in as a project (which I hate), he should be able to get minutes and contribute on a mediocre team like we have now.  As it stands now I have to feel like this was a recruiting "miss".

That was the story going around when he decided to stay. He wouldn't come if he was gonna be redshirted. 

[Miller'sTheMan 1,652]

I'm worried Morgan will go pro if he keeps shooting the ball like that.

[dbmhoosier 851]

7 minutes ago, Miller'sTheMan said:

I'm worried Morgan will go pro if he keeps shooting the ball like that.

He's too short to get drafted.  He'd be in the D league or overseas. 

[Brass Cannon 24,980]

For all the work that Al needs I think it's important to not that he was on the court for the good part of the second half. 

[Brass Cannon 24,980]

1 minute ago, dbmhoosier said:

He's too short to get drafted.  He'd be in the D league or overseas. 

Still getting paid 

[TheWatShot 14,380]

Why are so many people concerned about Morgan leaving? Is he graduating this spring? Seriously, 9 years of Tom Crean brainwashed so many of our fans into thinking every player who has a big game is NBA material.

[Brass Cannon 24,980]

3 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Why are so many people concerned about Morgan leaving? Is he graduating this spring? Seriously, 9 years of Tom Crean brainwashed so many of our fans into thinking every player who has a big game is NBA material.

Tons of players leave after 3 years regardless of if they are ready. 

[Miller'sTheMan 1,652]

16 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Why are so many people concerned about Morgan leaving? Is he graduating this spring? Seriously, 9 years of Tom Crean brainwashed so many of our fans into thinking every player who has a big game is NBA material.

Because the guy is having an outstanding year?

[Miller'sTheMan 1,652]

37 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said:

He's too short to get drafted.  He'd be in the D league or overseas. 

Ehhh, he seems to have the right size to be a 4 in the NBA.

[HoosierAloha 30,077]

For all the work that Al needs I think it's important to not that he was on the court for the good part of the second half. 

Because Newkirk once again showed he can't dribble and walk?


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[HoosierAloha 30,077]

Ehhh, he seems to have the right size to be a 4 in the NBA.

How many 6-7 forwards that aren't freak athletes are there in the NBA?


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[Bailey7878 2,506]

Durham can red-shirt as I'm concerned.   He is a bad basketball player right now; needs a lot of work, and his minutes haven't been productive.  (Lest anyone think I'm being hard on him, in the last 10 games, he is shooting 12-35 from the floor and has 13 turnovers.)   He is playing because we have nobody else; and I REALLY hope we add a guard to next season's class, whether it's a grad transfer or a freshman.  Phinisee will start immediately (I think) and he'll be terrific, but he needs help.  
 

Durham will not play much next year imo . There is a reason he was ranked where he was as he is simply not that good. Not sure why some of you are so high on him. I'm not seeing it.

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19 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Because Newkirk once again showed he can't dribble and walk?


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True but obviously good things can happen with Al on the court. Still scary to play him and Mcroberts at the same time though

[HoosierX 1,659]

2 hours ago, pumpfake said:

My only guess is that when Archie put the sell on him to reaffirm his commitment, maybe Clifton and his dad insisted he not be redshirted (?).  Whatever the case, I believe unless a player is brought in as a project (which I hate), he should be able to get minutes and contribute on a mediocre team like we have now.  As it stands now I have to feel like this was a recruiting "miss".

I understand what you're saying, we're a bad team and Moore hasn't even sniffed the rotation.  However, I'm not worried about him yet.

Crean apologists drove me crazy when they defended terrible recruits by saying "someone has to be the last (13th player) on the bench."  It drove me crazy because we were recruiting kids who didn't belong in the Big Ten and were never going to be more than the last player on the bench.

However, it is true that someone has to be the last player on the bench.  I would rather that player be someone with upside who could develop into a solid rotation player by his junior and senior seasons.  I think Moore is that player, as evaluators talked about the tremendous potential he had.  Some claimed he had the most NBA potential of our recruits, even with the super athletic Smith coming in. 

Right now the game is too fast for him, and he needs to add some weight.  But if we have to have a last player on the bench, I would prefer it be someone who has a chance to develop into a really solid contributor down the line.

Edited January 7, 2018 by HoosierX